Re: KLX110L or KLX140L
scrape
wrote:
>I'm an older guy who's looking for an easy to handle dirt bike just to
>tool around the trails where we live. There won't be any serious hill
>climbing or really rough terrain.
>
>I'm looking at both the 2010/11 Kawasaki KLX110L and the Kawasaki
>KLX140L. I'm 5' 11" tall and weigh about 215 lbs.
>
>Would I really need the extra power of the 140 over the 110? What do
>those 30 ccs really translate into as far as real power if one is just
>mainly running along at 15-20 mph tops.
>
>Will the KLX110L handle the situation I described and are those 33ccs
>more on the KLX140L worth an extra 900 bucks?
The 110 is a pit bike and won't handle anything. The 140 is a play
bike and if you're going to spend any time whatsoever on it, you're
going to wish you'd bought something else in a short time. Good bike
to learn on, but at your size, your knees are going to be hitting your
ears.
If you're aware of this and don't care, absolutely get the 140.
scrape
wrote:
>PS--Here are the specs for the two bikes.
I've owned the Yamaha versions of both those bikes.
KW
"Larry" <el.s...@ymail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 29, 2:35 am, scrape <scrapeNoTha...@earth--link.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 23:28:48 -0700 (PDT), Larry <el.sa...@ymail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> The 110 is a pit bike and won't handle anything.
>Not even putting along a relatively flat trail at 10-15 mph?
Yes, it will handle this just fine. Heck, I used to have a ball on my son's
little TTR-90 goon riding aound our yard, But the real truth behind what
scrape is saying is that if you find that you do enjoy riding the
scooter.....sooner rather than later, you *will* start getting more
adventurous than this and this bike will not be remotely close to something
that can fit the bill considering your size.
> The 140 is a play
> bike and if you're going to spend any time whatsoever on it, you're
> going to wish you'd bought something else in a short time. Good bike
> to learn on, but at your size, your knees are going to be hitting your
> ears.
>But don't the "L" models give a little extra room for taller adult riders?
Again correct here, but much of the same applies as I stated earlier...
> If you're aware of this and don't care, absolutely get the 140.
> I suppose it might be a bit uncomfortable but again, it's just for
> riding around the area where we camp and on the BLM trails near our
> home with no jumps, steep hills, fast speeds, etc. Probably a
> different level of use than most of the riders in this group who take
> on a lot more difficult riding conditions than I ever plan.
> Yopu're probably right about the 140. I was just wondering if that
> extra horsepower was worth almost a grand.
> Larry
If this is truly all you will ever do, either will provide the basic
function albeit the 110 will be very cramped. Heck if it were me and I were
only looking for a camp bike, I'd look for something like a Honda Trail
70/90 just for the cool as hell factor (for way less).
Back on topic. What I would suggest is that for what you think you want
right now.....forget all about buying new. You can pick up a 5 to 10 year
pit or play bike for $500 to $1,000.Stick to any of the big 4 Japanese
brands and you'll have a bike that can run for decades doing what you
describe with rock solid reliability.That way if late you decide later that
you want something else,you'll most likely recoup every penny of your
original investment whereas a new bike will lose at least 1/3rd to 1/2 of
its value just in the first year alone.
The Kawasaki's haven't been on the market for very long and as newish used
bikes, will have a higher resale value than some others, but all the below
are excellent choices for your stated purpose:
Kawasaki KLX 110/140
Yamaha TTR 110/125/125L (L model has bigger wheels and is taller)
Suzuki DRZ 125
Honda XR/CRF 100/150 (They also make a race ready 150R and 150RB(ig Wheel)
that are a kick to ride but would might not be a good choice for 10mph
putting around)
You could also look for a hybridized pitbike that will give you some of the
best of both worlds such as the one below:
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mcy/1971087703.html
Good luck in your quest.........be sure to check back in when you are ready
to discuss the options for next steps in your soon to be new addiction. :-)
KW
scrape
wrote:
>On Oct 29, 2:35 am, scrape <scrapeNoTha...@earth--link.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 23:28:48 -0700 (PDT), Larry <el.sa...@ymail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I'm an older guy who's looking for an easy to handle dirt bike just to
>> >tool around the trails where we live. There won't be any serious hill
>> >climbing or really rough terrain.
>>
>> >I'm looking at both the 2010/11 Kawasaki KLX110L and the Kawasaki
>> >KLX140L. I'm 5' 11" tall and weigh about 215 lbs.
>>
>> >Would I really need the extra power of the 140 over the 110? What do
>> >those 30 ccs really translate into as far as real power if one is just
>> >mainly running along at 15-20 mph tops.
>>
>> >Will the KLX110L handle the situation I described and are those 33ccs
>> >more on the KLX140L worth an extra 900 bucks?
>
>> The 110 is a pit bike and won't handle anything.
>
>Not even putting along a relatively flat trail at 10-15 mph?
Yes, it will pull you along. You really need to go sit on one before
going any further with this. You're going to come close to completely
compressing the suspension on a stock 110 while it's sitting still.
>> The 140 is a play
>> bike and if you're going to spend any time whatsoever on it, you're
>> going to wish you'd bought something else in a short time. Good bike
>> to learn on, but at your size, your knees are going to be hitting your
>> ears.
>
>But don't the "L" models give a little extra room for taller adult
>riders?
The L will give you larger wheels and a front disk brake. You'll get
a little more room between the seat and the ground, but the seat to
peg distance is the same. Seriously, go sit on one.
That being said, I wish I still had my kid's old TT-R125 (same
class/same size) for playing around on.
>> If you're aware of this and don't care, absolutely get the 140.
>
>I suppose it might be a bit uncomfortable but again, it's just for
>riding around the area where we camp and on the BLM trails near our
>home with no jumps, steep hills, fast speeds, etc. Probably a
>different level of use than most of the riders in this group who take
>on a lot more difficult riding conditions than I ever plan.
>
>Yopu're probably right about the 140. I was just wondering if that
>extra horsepower was worth almost a grand.
Neither has much in the way of HP. The 140 is probably around 9 or 10
HP. It will have a real clutch and a 5 speed gearbox vs. an auto
clutch and a 3 (or 4?) speed box on the 110. It'll have more
suspension, etc. Both have a fair amount of aftermarket support, but
you can probably get springs more suited to your size for the 140.
>Larry
I am Tosk
0190d7...@a37g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, el.s...@ymail.com says...> > On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 23:28:48 -0700 (PDT), Larry <el.sa...@ymail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I'm an older guy who's looking for an easy to handle dirt bike just to
> > >tool around the trails where we live. There won't be any serious hill
> > >climbing or really rough terrain.
> >
> > >I'm looking at both the 2010/11 Kawasaki KLX110L and the Kawasaki
> > >KLX140L. I'm 5' 11" tall and weigh about 215 lbs.
> >
> > >Would I really need the extra power of the 140 over the 110? What do
> > >those 30 ccs really translate into as far as real power if one is just
> > >mainly running along at 15-20 mph tops.
> >
> > >Will the KLX110L handle the situation I described and are those 33ccs
> > >more on the KLX140L worth an extra 900 bucks?
>
> > The 110 is a pit bike and won't handle anything.
>
>
> > bike and if you're going to spend any time whatsoever on it, you're
> > going to wish you'd bought something else in a short time. Good bike
> > to learn on, but at your size, your knees are going to be hitting your
> > ears.
>
> riders?
>
>
> riding around the area where we camp and on the BLM trails near our
> home with no jumps, steep hills, fast speeds, etc. Probably a
> different level of use than most of the riders in this group who take
> on a lot more difficult riding conditions than I ever plan.
>
> Yopu're probably right about the 140. I was just wondering if that
> extra horsepower was worth almost a grand.
>
Sounds like the kind of "easy" rides you plan to take could be made
pretty dangerous if someone were on a bike with their knees up to their
ears;) You can get hurt on a minibike, and you can get hurt going slow
if you can't control the bike properly because you are too big, don't
kid yourself..
All last year I rode a KX100 the same size as your big wheel 140 and I
am only 5'7" and 160 pounds... Now that I am on a proper bike, I do a
lot better, am much more comfy, and actually crash less... BTW, I got my
first dirtbike ever last year at age 53... So, take it for what it's
worth.. An let me tell you, nobody with a pulse is gonna' be satisfied
with putting around very long. Sooner or later you will "feel it" and
crack the throttle, want to have the right tool under your ass when you
do... Just my opinion...
--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
I am Tosk
>
> Looks like the KLX140L is a little bit bigger bike with a taller seat
> height, better brakes, longer, bigger gas tank, and a better
> suspension plus that extra juice in the motor. Guess it might be
> worth the extra $900.
For the record, the big wheel versions generally have the same frame,
longer forks, and a longer trailing arm if I remember correctly. No
extra room from the pegs to the bar.... Still a minibike...
Geeze, next thing you know the guy will be looking at a 6 1/2 horse,
hard tail, minibike... HA... Remember guys when I bought that? This guy
is right where I was back then. Either way though, we still have fun
using that bike in the pits at Stimilon...;)
JayC
> Okay, let's totally forget the KLX110L but I really think the KLX140L
> might be all I need for now and forever because I really have no
> interest in any riding other than what I've described.
You are wasting your own time. Go out and buy a used CRF230. You can
find them all day for $1500 or less. They are no good for aggressive
riding, but perfect for what you want to do.
JayC
JayC
glowing review):
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9777269
JayC
I am Tosk
da86d8...@u10g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, j...@sysmatrix.net says...
Now that you mention it, I concur 100%... Although your probably not
going to do a lot of track, if you wanted to the 230 will do that too...
At our local MX track I was getting chased by a older (my age) but more
experienced rider and he was on one of those 230's. Even though it is a
trail bike, and I was on a MX track with an MX bike, he was staying
pretty close for a few... then I got in the zone;) We were talking after
the race, he noted it was enough of a bike to have a good time on the
track, and of course, great in the woods. I don't know about the newer
ones but his was air cooled, simple and seemed to have plenty of nuts
against my 125. I did pull on straights, but he was able to put a tire
under me a couple of times in corners. He noted that if he kept riding
track he would pick up an MX bike, but for this season, he was having a
lot of fun with the 230...
My point is, it's the right size, and you can safely "grow" into it too
if you ever just get a hankerin' to "just twist it". At the same time
being a 4stroke, you can putz it around and it's a tame (controlable
anyway) enough to use for newbie riders, or teach the wife and tweens to
ride if they don't already...
Wudsracer
Larry,
Whatever you decide looks good "on paper", before you buy, do as
Scrape said and go sit on one. Then imagine that you are riding it.
(maybe even get someone to hold it up so that you can put both feet on
the pegs, to get an accurate idea of if you will be cramped, or not.)
That KLX110 is close to the same size as a CRF70. You would be sitting
too far back on the seat for good stability.
After you decide, check out www.ironplanet.com. They have been
having some real bargains lately from a dealership in FL. (You will
have to "join" before you can look at individual bikes for auction.)
If you are stuck in the smaller bike category, I suggest the
venerable CRF100 and the Yamaha TTR125LE. The Yamaha is electric start
and has marginally better suspension. But, both are large enough to
allow you to ride safely. (I am close to your size and weight, and own
both bikes; or rather, have bought them for family members and have
spent some time on them.)
If you sign up for ironplanet.com, check out this: xxxxx
No, wait a week or so, because the TTR125LE and the rest of the bikes
from FL in the listings went in the auction earlier this week.
Good Shopping and then Good Riding!
Jim
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>On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:52:53 -0700 (PDT), Larry <el.s...@ymail.com> wrote:
>Okay, let's totally forget the KLX110L but I really think the KLX140L
>might be all I need for now and forever because I really have no
>interest in any riding other than what I've described.
>
>But Scrape's mention of the Yamaha models got me looking there and I
>see the Yamaha TT-R 125LE is almost the exact same price as the
>Kawasaki KLX140-L and here's how those two shape up.
>
>
>++++YAMAHA TT-R 125LE++++
>
>124cc air-cooled SOHC 4-stroke; 2 valves
>Bore x Stroke 54.0mm x 54.0mm
>Compression Ratio 10.0:1
>Fuel Delivery Mikuni® VM20
>Ignition CDI
>Transmission Constant-mesh 5-speed; multiplate wet clutch
>Final Drive Chain
>Suspension / Front Telescopic fork; 7.1-in travel
>Suspension / Rear Single shock; 6.6-in travel
>Brakes / Front 220mm single disc
>Brakes / Rear 110mm drum
>Tires / Front 70/100-19 42M
>Tires / Rear 90/100-16 52M
>Length 74.2 in
>Width 31.3 in
>Height 42.7 in
>Seat Height 31.7 in
>Wheelbase 50.0 in
>Ground Clearance 11.6 in
>Fuel Capacity 1.6 gal
>Weight 198 lb
>
>++++2011 KAWASAKI KLX140L++++
>
>Engine Four-stroke, SOHC, two-valve single
>Displacement 144cc
>Bore x Stroke 58.0 x 54.4mm
>Compression ratio 9.5:1
>Cooling System Air
>Carburetion Keihin PB20
>Ignition CDI
>Transmission Five-speed with wet multi-disc manual clutch
>Final drive Chain
>Frame Type High-Tensile steel, box-section perimeter
>Rake/Trail 27 degrees / 3.8 in.
>Front suspension / wheel travel 33mm telescopic fork / 7.1 in.
>Rear suspension / wheel travel UNI-TRAK® linkage system and single
>shock with piggyback reservoir, fully adjustable preload and 22-way
>rebound damping / 7.1 in.
>Front Tire Size 70/100-19
>Rear Tire Size 90/100-16
>Front brakes / rear brakes Single 220mm petal disc with a dual-piston
>caliper / Single 186mm petal disc with single-piston caliper
>Overall length 74.6 in.
>Overall width 31.1 in.
>Overall height 42.3 in.
>Ground clearance 10.0 in.
>Seat height 31.5 in.
>Curb weight 209.4 lbs.
>Wheelbase 50.6 in.
>Fuel capacity 1.5 gal.
>
>
scrape
wrote:
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>Jim, I've also thought about the Yamahas since Scrape mentioned them.
>Here's the bottom line. I appreciate all the input and I definitely
>will sit astride one before I buy; however, I will NEVER increase my
>use of the bike from what I originally stated and I NEVER plan to go
>faster than 20-25 mph. I'm 70 years old and just tired of pedaling my
>mountain bike around the area on some of the flat trails here and also
>when we go camping out in the boonies. I'm simply looking for
>something to do the pedaling for me. LOL
>
>I also plan to buy new because there are several grandkids waiting in
>line for Gramps old motocycle when I get tired of riding it.
Nothing quite like new anyway...
>All that said, I'm changing the topic title from KLX110L or KLX140L to
>KLX140L or Yamaha TT-R 125LE? I've canned the idea of the 110 and
>plan to sit on both the 140L and the 125LE to see which is the better
>fit. Of my 5' 11" height a lot is above my butt as my legs are not
>really long so maybe the "cramped factor" might not feel as bad as I
>thought.
If you've settled on that class/size bike, there are some things you
can do to make it "fit" better from taller bars to stiffer springs,
etc. There are a LOT of aftermarket parts for it. Start here:
http://www.bbrmotorsports.com/Home/Home.aspx?s=true
>Once again, here are those two choices. Somebody tell me to go for
>the Yamaha blue since that Kawasaki green is a little tough on the
>eyes. Thanks again all.
I think there are a lot of folks here that have the TT-R. Other than
making sure you're getting what you need for your intended purpose, I
doubt you'll find anyone with anything negative to say about it.
Get the TT-R.
And congratulations!
scrape
wrote:
>Jay, I try to stay away from anything Chinese, although that's getting
>more difficult every day, and besides, I have a buddy that bought one
>of those Chinese scooters online and he's had a terrible time trying
>to find parts and/or service for it. No thanks. I'll stick with
>Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki or Honda.
Good for you. They're absolute, horrible junk even though there are
going to be a couple of examples of people being actually able to find
an occasional part or one not falling apart within minutes.
I think they probably do more damage to the sport from having folks
get immediately and incredibly turned off to the whole experience that
they never look back.
I am Tosk
scrapeN...@earth--link.net says...
Somewhere along the line I missed the part about the OP being 70 years
old... Sorry... maybe you won't be cracking the throttle;) I had a ttr-
125 and other than some overheating problems we had screaming it around
a motocross track, it was a perfect pit bike and also great for teaching
new riders. Can't hardly stall it, and you certainly can't kill it...
I am Tosk
scrapeN...@earth--link.net says...
Well as many of you might remember, we started with a bike like that. We
lucked out and got literally hundreds (probably close to 200) hours on
it the first season, on a motocross track. The trouble came in the fall
rain when she got it stuck in the mud and broke a bunch of spokes. Still
sitting in the basement as the specific size spokes for this bike were
no longer available after 6 months...;)
The thing about these Chinese bikes is they are sneaky to avoid stock
and warranties. If they change the model every 6 months, they can sell
it under different circumstances and don't have to keep stock parts for
a certain amount of time like other motor vehicle manufacturers.. So
yes, something as simple as a footpeg, or brake caliper breaking can
shelve the bike forever.... Ours was great to us, many others weren't so
lucky...
To the OP, check out http://www.rowdymouseracing.com
There from top to bottom you can see my daughter start on the red
(Chinese) minibike with the 12 inch tires, then to the TTR 125, then to
the KX 100, and I think there might be a bit of film at the bottom with
her on the 250 this season, I forget;)
Good luck, and now that I read the OP again I say the big wheel TTR
should do the trick nicely, and it will last forever if you take care of
it, find parts anywhere, and I might also note they are so quiet, you
can't even hear them in the house with the windows closed in the back
yard.... Perfect for neighborhoods, in case you like to putt around in
your back yard....
Scotty
KW
>Once again, here are those two choices. Somebody tell me to go for
>the Yamaha blue since that Kawasaki green is a little tough on the
>eyes. Thanks again all.
> Larry
Larry,
All that being said...... I've owned one (my son's) and had many fun trouble
free hours on it and recently sold it to another rmd'er for his better half
to learn to ride......(I think secretly he has spent more time riding it
than she has :-) At 5'9" and 190-ish lbs, it was a little cramped for me
when standing, but still a lot of fun to ride. The TTR 125L had the
smoothest clutch pull of any bike I've ever owned hands down. I like the
green bikes and have found them to be nothing but bulletproof as well...
although I have never actually ridden the 140. I think either choice would
exceed the expectations as you have described. So with that......go for the
blue.
Either way, both bikes have a big following in the market with tons of
aftermarket parts. Taller bars and seat foam will eliminate the cramped
feeling if needed.
Please buy and use proper safety equipment. Some of the worst injuries I've
seen have come when folks were just taking it easy and thought it would be
ok...."just this once" to leave an important piece or 2 behind. I've been at
it 37 years as of last month and in all that time, have only had one injury
that even sent me to a doctor. Yep, tooling around the yard with the kids. I
had my helmet on, but will forever wish I had the chest protector and boots.
You sound like a very cool grandpa and believe it or not there are some
pretty fast riders on here that aren't much younger than you.....wouldn't
suprise me a bit to see you racing someday........this bug bites hard.
Good luck with the purchase!
--
KW
aka DirtBikeDad (GOR, ADVRider, FRP, OCRA,KDXRider,SingleTrackPlanet)
aka GA-Spode (JustKDX, KTMTalk)
aka warrenmountain (Photobucket, TNRideReports, Thumpertalk,GA-MXRacing)
'03 Kawasaki KDX 220R
'99 Honda CR250R (Son -15)
'00 Yamaha Warrior 350 (Son -13)
'90 Kawasaki Bayou 220
'01 Kawasaki KX 85 (For Sale)
'03 Husky ZTH5221
KW
> Why didn't somebody tell me that buying a new dirt bike was so
> complicated. After absorbing all the input from this newsgroup, I
> finally decided to go straddle a Yamaha TT-R 125LE and then my 39-year-
> old son comes along and tells me not to buy anything until I check out
> the Honda CRF100.
>
> He says his buddy at the office where he works has one and thinks it's
> great. Now I gotta study up on the Honda and go straddle it too.
>
> Anyway, here's the link where the Honda and Yamaha are compared. I
> also noted I could save $350 buying the Honda over the
> Yamaha...hmmmm..a few steak dinners and extra good ale would that buy.
>
> So, if you folks aren't tired of me bugging you yet, feel free to
> chime in on the merits of the Honda CRF100 vs. Yamaha TT-R 125LE,
>
> -Larry
>
> http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/enthusiasts/new_vehicle_compare.asp?vehicle1=203332&year2=2011&mfg2=2&vehicle2=195847&go=Go
Always glad to help out a new rider.
I've had both and the Honda is rock solid reliable as well and a very fun
bike to ride. However the key enhancements the Yamaha has over the Honda as
selected in the shootout (CRF100 and TTR125LE) above are as follows and make
it worth every penny in my book:
Electric start (The L stands for Large Wheel and the E means electric start
in the 125LE model designation)
25cc's additional cc's in motor
Disc Brake up front
The last 2 are quite beneficial to those of us who are larger than the rider
for which the bike was designed. Plus going back to the clutch pull, it was
aways very stiff on the Honda and butter smooth on the Yamaha which makes a
world of difference when teaching a new/young rider the ropes. We taught
upwards to 30 kids and women how to ride in the 3 years we had our TTR
without a single DNF.
My $.02
KW
john
i bought a blue one for the wife
she rides it ever once in a while
i use it to putt about the woods
& back fields, it's comfortable
easy to ride ect... the only modifications
i did to it was change the pilot jet
on the carb to one that was larger
so it would run better (too lean from
the factory). when she wore out
the 1st set of tires i put a set of more
aggressive knobbies on it and it is
even better in the fields putting thru
the muck. eldest kid like the electric start
and the blue color. she misses the auto
clutch from the pw80 but has adapted.
john
various toys land sea & air
"Larry" <el.s...@ymail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 29, 10:50 am, Wudsracer <babba...@Lucy.com> wrote:
> If you are stuck in the smaller bike category, I suggest the
> venerable CRF100 and the Yamaha TTR125LE. The Yamaha is electric start
> and has marginally better suspension. But, both are large enough to
> allow you to ride safely. (I am close to your size and weight, and own
> both bikes; or rather, have bought them for family members and have
> spent some time on them.)
> Jim
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Jim, I've also thought about the Yamahas since Scrape mentioned them.
Here's the bottom line. I appreciate all the input and I definitely
will sit astride one before I buy; however, I will NEVER increase my
use of the bike from what I originally stated and I NEVER plan to go
faster than 20-25 mph. I'm 70 years old and just tired of pedaling my
mountain bike around the area on some of the flat trails here and also
when we go camping out in the boonies. I'm simply looking for
something to do the pedaling for me. LOL
I also plan to buy new because there are several grandkids waiting in
line for Gramps old motocycle when I get tired of riding it.
All that said, I'm changing the topic title from KLX110L or KLX140L to
KLX140L or Yamaha TT-R 125LE? I've canned the idea of the 110 and
plan to sit on both the 140L and the 125LE to see which is the better
fit. Of my 5' 11" height a lot is above my butt as my legs are not
really long so maybe the "cramped factor" might not feel as bad as I
thought.
Once again, here are those two choices. Somebody tell me to go for
the Yamaha blue since that Kawasaki green is a little tough on the
eyes. Thanks again all.
-Larry
scrape
wrote:
>Why didn't somebody tell me that buying a new dirt bike was so
>complicated. After absorbing all the input from this newsgroup, I
>finally decided to go straddle a Yamaha TT-R 125LE and then my 39-year-
>old son comes along and tells me not to buy anything until I check out
>the Honda CRF100.
>
>He says his buddy at the office where he works has one and thinks it's
>great. Now I gotta study up on the Honda and go straddle it too.
>
>Anyway, here's the link where the Honda and Yamaha are compared. I
>also noted I could save $350 buying the Honda over the
>Yamaha...hmmmm..a few steak dinners and extra good ale would that buy.
>
>So, if you folks aren't tired of me bugging you yet, feel free to
>chime in on the merits of the Honda CRF100 vs. Yamaha TT-R 125LE,
>
>-Larry
>
>http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/enthusiasts/new_vehicle_compare.asp?vehicle1=203332&year2=2011&mfg2=2&vehicle2=195847&go=Go
At this point, go sit on them both.
Personally, I'll forever hate Honda for inventing the three wheeler.
scrape
wrote:
> the only modifications
>i did to it was change the pilot jet
>on the carb to one that was larger
>so it would run better (too lean from
>the factory).
Unless it's been changed, it's always been jetted pretty lean out of
the box. Go up one or two sizes on the pilot jet (10 minutes effort
and that includes finding the screwdriver).
The Real Bev
> On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 00:22:16 -0700 (PDT), Larry<el.s...@ymail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Oct 29, 9:39 am, JayC<j...@sysmatrix.net> wrote:
>>> No wait - how about Chinese? Here's another option for you (with a
>>> glowing review):
>>> http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9777269
>>> JayC
>>
>>Jay, I try to stay away from anything Chinese, although that's getting
>>more difficult every day, and besides, I have a buddy that bought one
>>of those Chinese scooters online and he's had a terrible time trying
>>to find parts and/or service for it. No thanks. I'll stick with
>>Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki or Honda.
Up through 1980 (the last year with which I have experience, which is
kind of scary), Kawasaki and Suzuki were definitely made better than
Yamaha or Honda? Has it evened out by now?
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I am Tosk
@gmail.com says...
>
> On 10/30/10 03:06, scrape wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 00:22:16 -0700 (PDT), Larry<el.s...@ymail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Oct 29, 9:39 am, JayC<j...@sysmatrix.net> wrote:
> >>> No wait - how about Chinese? Here's another option for you (with a
> >>> glowing review):
> >>> http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9777269
> >>> JayC
> >>
> >>Jay, I try to stay away from anything Chinese, although that's getting
> >>more difficult every day, and besides, I have a buddy that bought one
> >>of those Chinese scooters online and he's had a terrible time trying
> >>to find parts and/or service for it. No thanks. I'll stick with
> >>Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki or Honda.
>
> Up through 1980 (the last year with which I have experience, which is
> kind of scary), Kawasaki and Suzuki were definitely made better than
> Yamaha or Honda? Has it evened out by now?
Well, when I talk to more experienced MX riders and dads, I find that
when somebody is willing to talk about a color other than what they
ride, they are talking about Yamaha. At least in my area the general
chatter is they are a bit faster and better built than Red, Green, or
Yellow... which we currently ride.
The Real Bev
> In article<iala5u$2t5$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, bashley101
> @gmail.com says...
>> Up through 1980 (the last year with which I have experience, which is
>> kind of scary), Kawasaki and Suzuki were definitely made better than
>> Yamaha or Honda? Has it evened out by now?
>
> Well, when I talk to more experienced MX riders and dads, I find that
> when somebody is willing to talk about a color other than what they
> ride, they are talking about Yamaha. At least in my area the general
> chatter is they are a bit faster and better built than Red, Green, or
> Yellow... which we currently ride.
Interesting. I would have put Yamaha at the bottom, based on the
machines we had. What are they, blue now? Son had a 450 (490?) which
he sold for $100 rather than fix it, and he was good at fixing stuff.
The old one (no paint, as I recall) went to the knackers.
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Cheers, Bev
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scrape
<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 10/31/10 20:29, I am Tosk wrote:
>
>> In article<iala5u$2t5$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, bashley101
>> @gmail.com says...
>
>>> Up through 1980 (the last year with which I have experience, which is
>>> kind of scary), Kawasaki and Suzuki were definitely made better than
>>> Yamaha or Honda? Has it evened out by now?
>>
>> Well, when I talk to more experienced MX riders and dads, I find that
>> when somebody is willing to talk about a color other than what they
>> ride, they are talking about Yamaha. At least in my area the general
>> chatter is they are a bit faster and better built than Red, Green, or
>> Yellow... which we currently ride.
>
>Interesting. I would have put Yamaha at the bottom, based on the
>machines we had. What are they, blue now? Son had a 450 (490?) which
>he sold for $100 rather than fix it, and he was good at fixing stuff.
>The old one (no paint, as I recall) went to the knackers.
Well, can we talk about Edsels and Studebakers next? 1980 was about 8
or 10 years into real dirtbikes. Things change pretty much every year
or three.