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The Real Bev

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Nov 11, 2009, 3:43:52 PM11/11/09
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Did the recent blackout affect you?

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Cheers, Bev
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Tiago

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:32:53 AM11/16/09
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Nope, I was in China eating the weirdest food I've evern seen. One of
my favorite dishes, cow kneecaps in black beans? bah, that's nothing
for them. As seen in a Rambo movie (don't remember which) "they eat
things that would make a wild boar puke".

I live quite a bit too far from Itaipu powerplant. I was told that the
lights flickered around the time Itaipu blew because of ripple effect
or something like this, it was a less than 5 minute outage and that
was all.

-- T

Carlo Vittoli

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:59:07 AM11/16/09
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Tiago <diarioda...@gmail.com> writes:
> As seen in a Rambo movie (don't remember which) "they eat things
> that would make a wild boar puke".

I remember a similar statement in a Robert Heinlein book (older than
any Rambo movie): "Humans can eat things that would make a goat puke"
or something like that. Probably true, from what I have seen

Ciao
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Carlo Vittoli
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Quartu S.Elena, Sardinia, Italy

The Real Bev

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:08:53 AM11/16/09
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Tiago wrote:

> Nope, I was in China eating the weirdest food I've evern seen. One of
> my favorite dishes, cow kneecaps in black beans? bah, that's nothing
> for them. As seen in a Rambo movie (don't remember which) "they eat
> things that would make a wild boar puke".

My Chinese friend even experimented with the green stuff inside a crab shell.
That's the first "food" I've ever seen her dislike.

Long ago there was a newsfilm showing Nixon, as Mao's guest, sharing a live
fish, partially fried. It was still gasping when they cut into it.

> I live quite a bit too far from Itaipu powerplant. I was told that the
> lights flickered around the time Itaipu blew because of ripple effect
> or something like this, it was a less than 5 minute outage and that
> was all.

Excellent.

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Cheers, Bev
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the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the
bodies of the people who pissed me off."

IdaSpode

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:17:29 AM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:08:53 -0800, The Real Bev
<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Tiago wrote:
>
>> Nope, I was in China eating the weirdest food I've evern seen. One of
>> my favorite dishes, cow kneecaps in black beans? bah, that's nothing
>> for them. As seen in a Rambo movie (don't remember which) "they eat
>> things that would make a wild boar puke".
>
>My Chinese friend even experimented with the green stuff inside a crab shell.
>That's the first "food" I've ever seen her dislike.
>
>Long ago there was a newsfilm showing Nixon, as Mao's guest, sharing a live
>fish, partially fried. It was still gasping when they cut into it.

My wife once had occasion to travel to Malaysia on business. At the
big group dinner, they served Fish Eye Soup. She was the guest of
honor and as such was expected to eat the eye. She gracefully
declined...

DJ

Tiago

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Nov 16, 2009, 12:28:43 PM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 1:08 pm, The Real Bev <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My Chinese friend even experimented with the green stuff inside a crab shell.
> That's the first "food" I've ever seen her dislike.

I have friends that like that. Not me.
Chinese in general don't like beans the way we brazilians like. To
them is insane to cook huge quantities of bean in a pot with water,
sausages and vegetables. They are coming to deliver the stuff my
employer bought out there. I will have my revenge. :-)

>
> Long ago there was a newsfilm showing Nixon, as Mao's guest, sharing a live
> fish, partially fried.  It was still gasping when they cut into it.

I saw that. They pick a *living* fish out of the tank and dip the tail
into *really hot* don't-ask-me-which-it's-made-of oil. They do that
with lobsters too. eeeeewwww!

Even stuff sold at big malls western style are weird. Thinking I'd be
safe at a Pizza Hut ordering their "supreme" pizza, I got myself
surprised with sausage with a huge content of fennel. Now, that wasn't
bad, but fennel and pork sausage (uhh, not sure if really pork, don't
ask) in a pizza doesn't really mix, imo. You know, in my hometown
there are lots of chinese food places. The dishes looks like the "real
deal" they serve in China. Don't be fooled, chinese food doesn't taste
even remotely similar to what food that looks the same here.

The dumplings filled with don't-ask-which-animal-it-came-from meat
smells kind of bad, but the taste is rather good. And cheap too. $1.5
of their money for a dumpling the size of tennis ball. That's less
than 20 usd cents. 20 more cents and you can buy an apple the size of
a grapefruit. At least McDonalds and coke taste the same, not sure if
I could live on pasteurized burgers for long though.

One thing is granted: China, for the little I saw, is much, much more
developed than my country... :-( Really really pretty girls over there
too, but kissing is considered "having sex" and is only performed afer
6 months (or more) of dating and only in the intimacy of home, so I
think I'd have to bring my own brazilian girl if I planned on
moving... Very cool culture characteristics, loved every minute
(except food time). I bet living there woudn't be bad at all if I
could at least understand a little of the writing and whatever, though
I quickly learned to distinguish the "entrance" and "exit"
signs... :-)

-- T

Tiago

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Nov 16, 2009, 12:36:07 PM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 12:59 pm, Carlo Vittoli <vitt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tiago <diariodastril...@gmail.com> writes:
> > As seen in a Rambo movie (don't remember which) "they eat things
> > that would make a wild boar puke".
>
> I remember a similar statement in a Robert Heinlein book (older than
> any Rambo movie): "Humans can eat things that would make a goat puke"
> or something like that. Probably true, from what I have seen

Hi Carlo!
I had a little fun in your country. Even had a not so nice encounter
with the carabinieri and their huge machine guns. Damn brazilians that
look suspiciously even when trying to eat cold pizza with stale french
fries. Great (and cheap!) espresso though. Kind of fun trying to sleep
on the Rome airport on chairs and no heating after missing the
connecting flight. I remember flying over Sardinia and I saw a few
places (from 10km high through a small plane window, mind) that would
make nice trails.

> Ciao

don't speak that too fast in China. Is a dirt word in their
language. ;-)

-- T

Tiago

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Nov 16, 2009, 12:40:09 PM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 1:17 pm, IdaSpode <not@home_watching.tv> wrote:

> My wife once had occasion to travel to Malaysia on business. At the
> big group dinner, they served Fish Eye Soup. She was the guest of
> honor and as such was expected to eat the eye. She gracefully
> declined...

This guest of honor thing is funny. They serve you the worse part of
the meal. I guess they think "let's get rid of this junk by saying
them it's the best part and offer it to the guest of 'honor'". lol.

The biggest motorcycle I seen there was a old twin that looked like an
ancient bmw/ural/whatever 750cc with a sidecar attached. It doesn't
looked like I could remove the sidecar, it looked like the sidecar was
part of the main frame... Aside that, only old 125 street bikes and
swarms of electric small motorcycles and scooters. I wish I could pack
one of those e-bikes and bring home! They are very kewl!

-- T

The Real Bev

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:47:02 PM11/16/09
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I ate fish maw soup at a Chinese banquet honoring a visiting dignitary. Damn
things had TEETH. I did what the rest of the table was doing, nibbling
SOMETHING off the maws and then placing them at the side of the plate. I
figured if it didn't kill them it wouldn't kill me.

Thankfully they did NOT serve balut or thousand-year-old eggs. You really have
to hand it to people who refuse to let ANYTHING edible go to waste.

The Real Bev

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Nov 17, 2009, 12:03:30 AM11/17/09
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Tiago wrote:

> On Nov 16, 1:08 pm, The Real Bev <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My Chinese friend even experimented with the green stuff inside a crab shell.
>> That's the first "food" I've ever seen her dislike.
>
> I have friends that like that. Not me.
> Chinese in general don't like beans the way we brazilians like. To
> them is insane to cook huge quantities of bean in a pot with water,
> sausages and vegetables. They are coming to deliver the stuff my
> employer bought out there. I will have my revenge. :-)

"Ya want extra snouts with them kneecaps?"

>> Long ago there was a newsfilm showing Nixon, as Mao's guest, sharing a live
>> fish, partially fried. It was still gasping when they cut into it.
>
> I saw that. They pick a *living* fish out of the tank and dip the tail
> into *really hot* don't-ask-me-which-it's-made-of oil. They do that
> with lobsters too. eeeeewwww!

Probably peanut oil, it heats up hotter without smoking than a lot of other oils.

> Even stuff sold at big malls western style are weird. Thinking I'd be
> safe at a Pizza Hut ordering their "supreme" pizza, I got myself
> surprised with sausage with a huge content of fennel. Now, that wasn't
> bad, but fennel and pork sausage (uhh, not sure if really pork, don't
> ask) in a pizza doesn't really mix, imo.

That's Italian sausage and fennel/anise is what makes it "Italian". I seem to
remember that pizza was invented in New York... I have an anise plant which
gives me all the seeds I need.

> You know, in my hometown
> there are lots of chinese food places. The dishes looks like the "real
> deal" they serve in China. Don't be fooled, chinese food doesn't taste
> even remotely similar to what food that looks the same here.
>
> The dumplings filled with don't-ask-which-animal-it-came-from meat
> smells kind of bad, but the taste is rather good. And cheap too. $1.5
> of their money for a dumpling the size of tennis ball. That's less
> than 20 usd cents. 20 more cents and you can buy an apple the size of
> a grapefruit. At least McDonalds and coke taste the same, not sure if
> I could live on pasteurized burgers for long though.

We have a lot of recently-arrived Chinese here, and a Chinese friend to test
new restaurants for us. The best restaurants are cheap and good and generous
to begin with, and then business falls off when they can't afford to keep up
the initial quality/quantity and they go belly up.

> One thing is granted: China, for the little I saw, is much, much more
> developed than my country... :-( Really really pretty girls over there
> too, but kissing is considered "having sex" and is only performed afer
> 6 months (or more) of dating and only in the intimacy of home, so I
> think I'd have to bring my own brazilian girl if I planned on
> moving... Very cool culture characteristics, loved every minute
> (except food time). I bet living there woudn't be bad at all if I
> could at least understand a little of the writing and whatever, though
> I quickly learned to distinguish the "entrance" and "exit"
> signs... :-)

The pronunciation/intonation is a real bitch. My Chinese friends laugh when I
try to reproduce what they just said, but my accent in Spanish isn't at all bad
so Chinese is a LOT harder than I think it is.

Friends took a subsidized trip to China -- the silk and jewelry industries
offer cheap 7-day trips -- $700/person (or possibly $700/couple) including
plane tickets from LAX, food, hotel, transportation, etc. Imperial Palace,
Great Wall, other tourist attractions, and the silk and jewelry factories.
Friend bought some silk comforters and jade jewelry. The bracelet broke before
she got on the flight home, and when she tried to have it repaired the local
jeweler told her it wasn't worth it. I wouldn't buy ANYTHING made of white
silk, but that stuff seemed nice. I have excellent sales resistance, so for me
it would be a much better deal.

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Cheers, Bev
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operate a computer means that evolution has made a general
fuckup and our race is doomed." -- Anon.

Carlo Vittoli

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:16:19 AM11/17/09
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Tiago <diarioda...@gmail.com> writes:
> Damn brazilians that look suspiciously even when trying to eat cold
> pizza with stale french fries

well, can't blame them, I would also be suspicious of anyone eating
cold pizza with stale french fries. We have quite a lot of problems
here, but we do have better food than that :-)

Hope everything went well in the end

> I remember flying over Sardinia and I saw a few places (from 10km
> high through a small plane window, mind) that would make nice
> trails

yes, nice trails are common here, as long as they don't insist on
turning TST into dirt roads and paving them afterwards. This is what
they call civilization, I think. Does this happen in Brazil?

> don't speak that too fast in China. Is a dirt word in their
> language. ;-)

good to know, but now I'm really curious to know what it means...

Stammi bene ;-)

Carlo Vittoli

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:25:52 AM11/17/09
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The Real Bev <bashl...@gmail.com> writes:
> That's Italian sausage and fennel/anise is what makes it "Italian"

anise is commonly used here in sausages, but there are many variations
depending on local traditions. Anise is used where I live, but 30-40
northwards there is a small town where only black pepper is added (and
they make very good sausages). The shape of the sausage also varies
wildly from place to place.

I suppose it's the same with Chinese restaurants in the West. I asked
a local restaurant owner if he served real Chinese food or it was
somehow modified to please local habits, but he said that it was all
original. But China is so large that you will probably find something
totally different whe you go there

Ciao

Tiago

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:55:28 AM11/17/09
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On Nov 17, 1:16 pm, Carlo Vittoli <vitt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tiago <diariodastril...@gmail.com> writes:
> > Damn brazilians that look suspiciously even when trying to eat cold
> > pizza with stale french fries
>
> well, can't blame them, I would also be suspicious of anyone eating
> cold pizza with stale french fries.  We have quite a lot of problems
> here, but we do have better food than that :-)

Well, what else I could expect from a fast food place in a busy
airport late at night?

> Hope everything went well in the end

It did. He just wanted to know what we were doing in the airport after
it had closed, no big deal, the lack of a common language to talk
makes them uneasy, I guess... I noticed quite a few tramps, they wear
nice clothes and pretend are passengers by carrying trolleys with
luggage, but if you pay enough attention you'll see them rummaging
garbage cans and collecting things people "forget" around. Perhaps
gendarmiere dudes thought we were one of those types trying to pick
something from the sleepy people waiting for the airport open the next
day...

>
> > I remember flying over Sardinia and I saw a few places (from 10km
> > high through a small plane window, mind) that would make nice
> > trails
>
> yes, nice trails are common here, as long as they don't insist on
> turning TST into dirt roads and paving them afterwards. This is what
> they call civilization, I think. Does this happen in Brazil?

yep. They already started paving a dirt road that we use to trail ride
on it saying that will improve traffic conditions and bring
"progress". I will miss the wfo trips on that old road...

>
> > don't speak that too fast in China. Is a dirt word in their
> > language. ;-)
>
> good to know, but now I'm really curious to know what it means...
>
> Stammi bene ;-)

We have a word in portuguese that's the same pronunciation and
meaning, just writes different. I realized that I said something very
wrong when a group of laughing people suddenly stop laughing and
looked embarassed... Of course I had to learn that the hard way, but
in the end, no feelings were hurt and no international diplomacy
problem arised. It took a guy from India to explain it all... See?
India support services ain't that bad! <g>

-- T

Tiago

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Nov 17, 2009, 12:01:56 PM11/17/09
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On Nov 17, 2:03 am, The Real Bev <bashley...@gmail.com>

> Friends took a subsidized trip to China -- the silk and jewelry industries
> offer cheap 7-day trips -- $700/person (or possibly $700/couple) including
> plane tickets from LAX, food, hotel, transportation, etc.  Imperial Palace,
> Great Wall, other tourist attractions, and the silk and jewelry factories.
> Friend bought some silk comforters and jade jewelry.  The bracelet broke before
> she got on the flight home, and when she tried to have it repaired the local
> jeweler told her it wasn't worth it.  I wouldn't buy ANYTHING made of white
> silk, but that stuff seemed nice.  I have excellent sales resistance, so for me
> it would be a much better deal.


Interesting, to me, seemed that they knew how to build long standing
good quality stuff. I suspect that if you ask them to build it for
cents, they will do it, no matter if the thing will break before first
use. They seem to not care of reputation. I heard that BYD toyota
clones are as good as the real toyotas. google for BYD F3 car, look at
the pictures and if you didn't knew it was a "BYD F3" you could easily
say it is a toyota corolla...

--- T

The Real Bev

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:49:26 PM11/17/09
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Tiago wrote:

I think they'll build whatever the customer wants at the price the customer is
willing to pay. I've ordered cheap electronic stuff (USB card readers,
ethernet couplers, cables, etc) from Chinese mail-order places whose quality
is excellent, which leads me to believe that a lot of made-in-USA stuff is
badly overpriced.

I like DealExtreme -- no shipping charges at all. http://www.dealextreme.com
You can spend hours just wandering through their catalog. A friend is going to
buy his Year-of-the-Pig relatives the little pig flashlight keychain.

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Cheers, Bev
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