Do dirtbikes have titles?
Adam P.
but I did not receive a title.
Thanks
Adam
Adam P.
purchased it from a dealer about a year back... Great! Now what to do!
Adam
"KTMStan" <ktm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> From: "Adam P." a...@pobox.NoCaCa.com
> Adam, yes they have titles! Your 97 Yamaha SHOULD have one also! Better
get
> some info on the person that sold you your Yamaha (like his licence plate
> number on his car or his real name). Then ask DMV (Department of Motor
> Vehicles) to explain things to you. If things are ok, DMV will send you a
> title, but they may also tell you your bike is stolen and you have a
problem.
Uwe Hale
> I just bought a used 97 yamaha. The owner signed a bill of sale over to me
> but I did not receive a title.
Some do some don't. If not, it should have a Certificate of Manufacture or
similar document. If not, I'd run the VIN through the police to check if
it's hot before buying.
Uwe Hale - 99 GasGas EC200, 89 YZ250WR
http://www.rrdr.org
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KTMStan
but I did not receive a title.
KTMStan
things to you.
Stan........../\/\/\/\/\/\
Rowdy
> From: "Adam P." a...@pobox.NoCaCa.com
> > I just bought a used 97 yamaha. The owner signed a bill of sale over to me
> > but I did not receive a title.
> Adam, yes they have titles! Your 97 Yamaha SHOULD have one also! Better get
> Vehicles) to explain things to you. If things are ok, DMV will send you a
> title, but they may also tell you your bike is stolen and you have a problem.
Euro question: What is "a title"?
I understand it's not the bill of sale (contract between seller and
purchaser) but why would the DMV provide him with a title.
Over here we basically have three documents:
- sales contract
dealer or seller and i agree on price and shipment)
- "Typenschein" (road worthiness certificate)
manufacturer describes bike down to engine and frame number,
all owners + address who had the bike plated before me,
muffler type, gearing, engine hp, displacement, noise level,
load limits, no. of passengers, + pics/drawings how the bike
has to look like (mirrors,etc..)
if i want a license plate, i show the contract, proof of insurance and
the typenschein to the DMV and receive a
- "Zulassungsschein"
stating the current owner, hp, noise, load limits, engine & frame
nos.
When being pulled over i have to produce my driver's license and the
Zulassungsschein of the bike i'm riding.
While the bike has a valid plate, the Typenschein defines the legal
owner. Selling a bike by contract only is a bad idea as you'll still
get all the speeding tickets in you mail the new "owner" is creating,
and you'd have to prove you weren't the one speeding.
A pure, non platable MX bike would only have a contract.
As soon as someone shows up, who can prove the bike to be his and that
it has been stolen, i have to give it to him. I don't get fined unless
my purchase is viewed as "questionable purchase" (e.g. i bought it
super cheap, in primo condition at night in a unlit parking lot)
So what's a title, and why are there bikes without one?
Rowdy, puzzled as usual
WRZ400H
xrTodd
that it's a global group and people are answering for their locality.
For example, I'm from Ohio, which just changed its laws. Up until
7/1/99, NO dirtbikes had titles. Starting 7/1 ALL dirtbikes that were
going to be registered to ride on state land had to have a title. A
new bike now will be titled for you by the dealer, but a private owner
may not have a title to give you, assuming he bought the bike before
7/1. As you can see, it gets complicated.
Before you do anything rash, contact your local Bureau of Motor
Vehicles or whatever state agency you would get car titles at, and ask
them the same question you asked RMD.
xrTodd
00 XR400
In article <89v9fr$ni$1...@slb0.atl.mindspring.net>,
"Adam P." <a...@pobox.NoCaCa.com> wrote:
> I just bought a used 97 yamaha. The owner signed a bill of sale over
to me
> but I did not receive a title.
>
> Thanks
>
> Adam
>
>
--
xrTodd
'00 XR400R
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Before you buy.
Uwe Hale
> - "Zulassungsschein"
> stating the current owner, hp, noise, load limits, engine & frame
> nos.
This sounds the closest to a title.
Brian McGarry
"Adam P." wrote:
> I have all of this guys personal info. Address, Numbers the hole deal. He
> purchased it from a dealer about a year back... Great! Now what to do!
Relax, You're OK
Brian
Adam P.
As far they are concerned if it doesn go on the road they dont track it.
Called a yamaha dealer. They were preaching a certificate of manufacter,
but preached that my Bill of Sale would do fine.
Thanks for the info all!
Adam
"Adam P." <a...@pobox.NoCaCa.com> wrote in message
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Rowdy
>
> In article <38C38AE1...@gmx.net>, Rowdy wrote:
> > - "Zulassungsschein"
> > stating the current owner, hp, noise, load limits, engine & frame
> > nos.
>
> This sounds the closest to a title.
Interesting.
This document is the consequence of getting a license plate.
A MX bike won't ever get one, as it doesn't meet the noise and EPA
limits.
Rowdy, still a little bit puzzled
WRZ400H
Mean Gene
Over here we basically have three documents:
- sales contract
dealer or seller and i agree on price and shipment)
RESPONSE:This is the same as our
bill of sale.
- "Typenschein" (road worthiness certificate) manufacturer describes
bike down to engine and frame number, all owners + address who had
the bike plated before me, muffler type, gearing, engine hp,
displacement, noise level, load limits, no. of passengers, +
pics/drawings how the bike has to look like (mirrors,etc..)
RESPONSE:This is the same as our MSO (manufactures statement of origin)
or
CO (certificate of origin).
if i want a license plate, i show the contract, proof of insurance and
the typenschein to the DMV and receive a
- "Zulassungsschein"
stating the current owner, hp, noise, load limits,
engine & frame nos.
RESPONSE:This is the same as our title
(Title of ownership) issued by the DMV in
the state in which we live. Some states only issue titles on street
legal motorcycles. Other states title offroad bikes as well thus
allowing them to charge
property tax on them and sales tax if they were bought in another state.
Gene K
99 KLX300R (not titled)
KTMStan
useally reffered to as a "pink slip".
The title states who owns the motorcycle or car or truck or trailer, and has
some specs of said vehicle, like year, size, ect.
Titles are one way to unfairly and over tax the citizens of the USA, AND OF
COURSE THIS IS AGAINST OUR CONSTITUTION.
I found out some dirtbikes do not have titles.
Stan......../\/\/\/\/\/\
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KTMStan <ktm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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High Lord Gomer
>Interesting.
>This document is the consequence of getting a license plate.
>A MX bike won't ever get one, as it doesn't meet the noise and EPA
>limits.
Hey Peter! (I still owe you some money)
In the states where I've lived, a vehicle title is a formal statement
of ownership. A title is required to get a tag, but it isn't
necessary that you get a tag once you have a title.
The real benefit of getting a title is that, in the states I've lived,
a title also shows if there are any liens against the vehicle. That
way, if you get a title, you know that you do own the vehicle free and
clear.
I've heard that a lienholder can legally repossess the bike from
whoever has it, even if it has ben sold several times, all with bills
of sale. The states with which I'm familiar will not transfer a title
to another person until the lien(s) are satisfied.
>Rowdy, still a little bit puzzled
..and that has nothing to do with the title issue. :)
Gomer - WWW.DirtRider.Net Forum Pro
Trash Hauler
titles for dirtbikes. Only for streetbikes. I bought a new '99 YZ-125 last
year from a dealer and no title is given or required.
Hope it helps
xrTodd <xrT...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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> It varies state by state. The problem with posting a question here is
> that it's a global group and people are answering for their locality.
> For example, I'm from Ohio, which just changed its laws. Up until
> 7/1/99, NO dirtbikes had titles. Starting 7/1 ALL dirtbikes that were
> going to be registered to ride on state land had to have a title. A
> new bike now will be titled for you by the dealer, but a private owner
> may not have a title to give you, assuming he bought the bike before
> 7/1. As you can see, it gets complicated.
>
> Before you do anything rash, contact your local Bureau of Motor
> Vehicles or whatever state agency you would get car titles at, and ask
> them the same question you asked RMD.
>
> xrTodd
> 00 XR400
>
> In article <89v9fr$ni$1...@slb0.atl.mindspring.net>,
> "Adam P." <a...@pobox.NoCaCa.com> wrote:
> > I just bought a used 97 yamaha. The owner signed a bill of sale over
> to me
> > but I did not receive a title.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
>
Hendo 62
you a plate, but of course I can't ride my 00 CR250 on the street. I think the
plate must be for riding on State Trust Land which can be done with a permit.
Any one else have an idea why they issue plates to motocross race bikes??
Keeping the convicts busy and wasting money?
SH
00 cr250
MMMarvalus
>you a plate, but of course I can't ride my 00 CR250 on the street. I think
>the
>plate must be for riding on State Trust Land which can be done with a permit.
The plate has no purpose (unless you use it as a wall decoration like I did
<G>). It's worthless for State Trust purposes. You don't need one to get a
permit, and a plate is not good in lieu of a permit. My son's explanation for
them is that he thinks it gives the prison population something to do.
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