info on '86 Husky WR400???
Ronnie
anyone else have one of these? I need service manuals, specs, etc.
Anyone know where I can purchase any of these items for this old Swiss
made bike? How about parts sources for older Huskys? Any info
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Ronnie
Gremoby61
>made bike
I am not wery chure wo jurs having been to be mading, but the one of mines (83
XC500) having being from Schweden coming.
bestens
Harry
Tim H.
Ronnie wrote:
>
> Just bought a 1986 Husky wr400. Boy is this thing sweet! Does
> anyone else have one of these? I need service manuals, specs, etc.
> Anyone know where I can purchase any of these items for this old Swiss
> made bike?
Uh, that must be quite the collector's item. Most Huskies were made in
Sweden until Cagiva moved 'em to Italy.
Sorry, I couldn't resist the dig.
Tim
Ronnie
still need "sources". Help. Guess there isn't too many old schoolers
around this ng that remember this bike.
Ronnie
Tim H.
Oh, I'm sure many of us remember them, just not many still hooked into
the vintage Husky pipeline. I remember it used to be said that Husky
riders were born, not made, i.e. the people that got along with them got
along with them well, some folks could never adapt. I had friends that
went both ways. Myself, I was a CZ guy, so I never got into the Husky
thing. Loved the motors for off road work, though, in my limited
experience on the marque.
Someone will pop up. Be patient. The guy you're looking for just hasn't
been reading for a few days (he said optimistically).
Good luck.
Tom Buskey
I had an '85. It was a great machine. 1st open class water cooled in
the US. The only thing that wasn't good was the width. The 430 that
followed was narrower, but for New England woods work, I really missed
the smoothness of the 400.
I guess I'm one of those born husky riders.
I had (and raced):
'81 250WR
'82 250XC
'83 250WR
'85 400WR
'87 430WR (Last year in Sweden)
Morel's Husqvarna in North Attleboro, MA was my dealer. He's still
around, advertises in Trail Rider, and specializes in Huskies and old
bikes. I'd guess they might be your best bet for parts, etc. The
owner's manual covered maintenance, jetting, and rider trainning.
Really!
--
Tom Buskey Server Tools Development
tbu...@NOSPAM.net (change NOSPAM to genuity for email)
25/1516a 3 Van DeGraff Dr. Burlington, MA 01803 Genuity, Inc
It...@webtv.net
in there somewhere. gary jones
Jim Cook
>
>
>Ronnie wrote:
>>
>> No its a thrash item. Just the last of the swiss made, duh. :)) I
>> still need "sources". Help. Guess there isn't too many old schoolers
>> around this ng that remember this bike.
>> Ronnie
>>
>Oh, I'm sure many of us remember them, just not many still hooked into
>the vintage Husky pipeline. I remember it used to be said that Husky
>riders were born, not made, i.e. the people that got along with them got
>along with them well, some folks could never adapt. I had friends that
>went both ways. Myself, I was a CZ guy, so I never got into the Husky
>thing. Loved the motors for off road work, though, in my limited
>experience on the marque.
>Someone will pop up. Be patient. The guy you're looking for just hasn't
>been reading for a few days (he said optimistically).
>Good luck.
OK, OK! I'l come out of the closet! <G> I am a (partially)
reformed Husky rider. I currently have 4 Husky projects in various
stages of completion, (to use the word loosely :)
I will try to help you, if I can.
Come closer, and I'll let you in on a little secret. The reason that
I don't say much, about this past addiction, is that "I have to guard
against my tendency for letting people talk me out of pieces of my
(Husky) treasure. " :-(
I need to keep them all! I really do! I Do!
Just a month ago, I let a valuable source of '84 WR500 parts leave
my grasp. They really are valuable, aren't they? Sure they are.
Yeah, they are.... The fellow convinced me that he was going to give
it a good home, and cherish it. I gave in.
That parts swap that I worked up with the fellow from several
states away, a few years back, started off OK. We were going to help
each other out. He had a 430 Auto Road racing Project, and needed
another engine. I needed fork components, shock, radiators, swingarm,
etc. (The suspension of a 430 Auto is usually still in good shape.
The WR 430s that you find, usually have a lot of wear. Imagine that!
1. I was to send him the stock 430 pipe, with the high rpm power and
vicious hit in the power delivery.
2. He was going to send me the rolling chassis off his '87 430 Auto.
3. I was going to send him the 430 Auto engine out of mine.
I sent him the pipe............Never heard from him again. :-(
Anybody ever hear of an "eccentric" road racer named Marc Autier?
Last time I heard from him, he was headed for a road race in Phoenix,
back several years ago. I sure could use that shock and swingarm,
rear wheel., etc. (I thought his project showed imagination. I
wonder if he got killed in that road race in Arizona. I never heard
from him after I sent him the pipe.)
It was only a year ago that I let a different guy have the bottom
end from my '87 430 Auto. (I did that mainly for self preservation.)
:-)
I modified my swingarm pivot shaft to allow me to grease the
bearings with a grease gun. I think that they revised the linkage
and altered the shock mounting brackets.
I was never able to get an owner's manual for the '87 WR430. I just
tried to co-ordinate the information from the '87's parts breakdown
manual (paper version of the microfiche) with the information in the
'82 XC250's owner's manual. It did, indeed, have training
information. I was impressed after 25 years of Yamaha owners manuals.
The 400 and 430 were very close. The 400 was the "prototype for the
'87 430. They altered the airbox a little, to keep the screws from
falling out. They still produced the bikes in '88, but they were the
same design and model. It was the last year of the two stroke Swedish
Husqvarna.
I was pissed at the Italians for almost 10 years. I still am, a
little. They bought the most successful off-road company going, got
rid of the best "grass roots" dealership network ever seen, fired all
the people working for them, and, keeping only the design of the
4-stroke, moved all the production to Italy. The two-stroke bikes
they produced and sold under the Husky marque weren't bad, they just
weren't Huskys. They used the design of their already developed
Cagiva dirt bikes.
Then, they changed from that beautiful traditional "blue and yellow,
on a white back-ground" regal colors for "baby diaper green".
(I never could figure out that color choice.... It was a burden
that many still loyal Husky fans endured quite bravely. )
Finally, when they were ready, they shook most of the rest of the
Husky fans clean away from the shop, by not producing the spares that
most of us "real men" riders seem to break, in copious quantities.
I think that they ought to have used the 4-stroke, and let the
Swedish workers continue building the bikes, and update what they had.
The clutch was funky, with a lot of drag, and lever effort.
(Hydraulic clutch ?)
It could have used a rear disk brake system.
(Kevin Hutchinson grafted one to his 430 Auto Competition Bike last
year. He rails on that thing. Everywhere. When you see Kevin on
it, the rear wheel is always kicking a roost, always!)
Husky bikes were never submarines. That "side intake" air box inlet
was just too low. We had to jump or wheelie across deep water.
Other than that, I thought the bikes were fantastic. My 430 WR
force fed my habit, and eventually got me up to "serious retard"
speeds, on a quite regular basis. <G> I had to quit racing for 3
years to get as slow as I ride now.
Oops! .... Where was I? .... Oh, Yeah.... I remember now...... (That
is another reason that I'm slow to get into a discussion on the
Huskys. I tend to go off on a rant about the Italians.. Sorry about
that.
If I can help you, with your search for parts, information, for
anything else, let me know. There are several Husky "self help"
groups on the net. One of them, I believe, is located at:
http://www.intrepid.net/~husky/hustest.html. It is a good place to
start, especially for your year model. Several shops sell parts, but
all that I have dealt with charged me too much for me to brag about
their location. If you've got the money, Halls Husqvarna, in
Springfield, IL, usually has the OEM parts.
Anything aftermarket, I can probably help you. I checked with
DynoPort last Thursday. (I deal directly with DynoPort, for their
products.) They still make those pipes for the late '80s Huskys.
If the Gas Gas wasn't so sweet, I would have already finished that
restoration project. Compared to the Husky's clutch, the Gas gas
clutch is like butter. It's so sweet!
Jim Cook / Wudsracer
Gas Gas EC 250
Smackover Motor Sports
870-725-3966
www.smackovermotorsports.com
Senior B - Team LAGNAF
BJEC SERA AHSCS TSCEC AMA
Ronnie
Practically your neighbor anyways here in TN. The wr400 I got is in
incredible condition. I am returning to the sport after not riding for
17 years and the 400 is quite a handful. I have been riding the heck
out of it. I'm just getting a jump on things 'cause I know eventually
parts will wear out. I got this bike to ride hard not to putt putt
around. Damn I forgot how hard the ground was. :)) Ouch! Your right
the clutch is a little stiff but no big deal. Works quite well though.
Pipe? Did you say pipe? I never dreamed of finding aftermarket goodies
for this ol' Husky. This Husky had to be ahead of its time back in '86.
Thanks for replying.......I'll be calling you soon. I feel better
knowing there is still some replacement parts to be found.
Ronnie
Tim H.
Jim Cook wrote:
>
<snip a bunch of Husky info>
See, Ronnie? I told you the truth was out there!
BTW Jim, I thought there was something just a tiny bit off center in all
of your previous posts. Now it becomes clear: you are conflicted between
your Swedish roots and your current Latin love. Aint it grand to have a
history? I feel sorry for all of these poor guys who think that going
back to a non-perimeter framed KDX200 is old school.
Jim Cook
I see it as having fond memories of an Swedish EX-wife, and a sweet,
hot blooded Latin girlfriend/wife.
( Please don't tell Deb. :-)
Jim
"Seasoned" Gas Gas EC250 Rider
Team LAGNAF
Smackover Motor Sports
http://www.smackovermotorsports.com/
870-725-3966
Tim H.
Jim Cook wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:19:49 GMT, "Tim H." <don'tmailme@work> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Jim Cook wrote:
> >>
> ><snip a bunch of Husky info>
> >
> >See, Ronnie? I told you the truth was out there!
> >
> >BTW Jim, I thought there was something just a tiny bit off center in all
> >of your previous posts. Now it becomes clear: you are conflicted between
> >your Swedish roots and your current Latin love. Aint it grand to have a
> >history? I feel sorry for all of these poor guys who think that going
> >back to a non-perimeter framed KDX200 is old school.
>
> I see it as having fond memories of an Swedish EX-wife, and a sweet,
> hot blooded Latin girlfriend/wife.
>
> ( Please don't tell Deb. :-)
>
> Jim
>
Your secret is safe with us.
Tim
flyer
a NEW clutch set for an 87 wr-430? I didnt call Halls yet do they have
a web page? I guess I have a bad clutch, When I pull it in the outer
plate moves out but the clutch still wont disengage.You can only push
it in neutral .The disks dont look that bad to the eye. Is there
something else to check? Maybe a particular type of oil. I give up.
Thanks.
On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 01:40:01 GMT, dirt...@arkansas.net (Jim Cook)
wrote:
Jim Cook
>Please help. I have looked everywhere I can think of. Where Can I find
>a NEW clutch set for an 87 wr-430? I didnt call Halls yet do they have
>a web page? I guess I have a bad clutch, When I pull it in the outer
>plate moves out but the clutch still wont disengage.You can only push
>it in neutral .The disks dont look that bad to the eye. Is there
>something else to check? Maybe a particular type of oil. I give up.
>Thanks.
>
>
I'll check the Barnett catalogs and the Galfer catalogs, and get back
as soon as possible and post here.
If you e-mail me, I'll send you the information directly.
Jim
Jim Cook/Wudsracer
Jim Cook
>Please help. I have looked everywhere I can think of. Where Can I find
>a NEW clutch set for an 87 wr-430? I didnt call Halls yet do they have
>a web page? I guess I have a bad clutch, When I pull it in the outer
>plate moves out but the clutch still wont disengage.You can only push
>it in neutral .The disks dont look that bad to the eye. Is there
>something else to check? Maybe a particular type of oil. I give up.
>Thanks.
>
I understand the problem a little better now.
You are experiencing a common problem with the 430 Husky. Every time
that I rode my 430WR, for the first time of the day, the clutch plates
were stuck together.
I had to:
1. crank the engine, and let it warm a bit.
2. roll the bike forward in neutral, and, while it was still moving,
and I was holding in the lever, shift into 1st gear, lurching away.
3. Ride from 100 yards to 1 mile with the clutch pulled in, before the
clutch would disengage.
After that, for the rest of the day, the clutch worked normally.
(That is, it had a lot of clutch drag, gut otherwise worked well. )
I have been told that a modification of the bearing in the rear of the
clutch basket would fix this, but I think that it is a vacuum being
formed by the oil on the plates, causing them to stick together.
The problem is not worn out plates.
Jim Cook
flyer
wrote:
The Guy I bought it from said that you had to run a really light oil
in it but he couldnt remember what kind. It was working fine when I
got it and after a few days I changed the oil (it had been sitting for
a couple of years) thats when all the problems started. I have
straight 20 weight in it now I even had the bel-ray stuff in there.
Thats why I thought the clutch was fried. I ran it on a local hare
scramble course a few weeks ago 4.6 miles and you still had to put it
in neutral to move it while it was not running.
Brandon
Jim Cook
I was told to run 20 wt.
I tried atf.
I tried virgin 20 wt. (I live 1/4 mile from a refinery.)
I tried JD 303 Grade Tractor Hydraulic & Transmission fluid.
I tried Haveline 30wt.
I tried Castrol 10w30.
I used a lot of the old Duralube (now Champion) LV (light viscosity)
transmission fluid.
The oil that shifted best and had less clutch drag, was another 20 wt
virgin oil that had been further refined and strained. It was an oil
that was prepared for a US government contract for submarine
lubrication needs.
My clutch still "dragged". I had to start it in neutral, and, I had
to be moving to get it into neutral, if the engine was running.
The pull was firm, (I have a very good grip. :-), but my clutch never
slipped, when adjusted properly. I still have the original clutch set
in one bike, that I personally abused for 6 years of my most
aggressive racing.
The other 430 still has the original clutch set in it after 6 years
of light usage by my friend, and then two and a half years of very
hard usage by me.
The clutch action is identical in both bikes. At least they didn't
slip and burn out like some of the clutches on the older Huskies,
(when used for a mule team during sweep riding for the enduros.)
The clutch and the drum rear brakes were the only thing that kept
them from being damn near perfect. (Shifting falls under clutch .)
I never tried Mobil-1, or Spectro, or Bel Ray, or any other
synthetically enhanced oil, except for the DuraLube.
I heard that the basket/hub can be modified to cut out some of the
clutch drag, but do not know exactly how it's done.
As it is now, I think that the clutch characteristics are a product
of design, and as such, are to be considered "Racial Characteristics".
In light of what works best in my Gas Gas, which also has very close
clutch tolerances, I would advise you to try Spectro "80wt Motorcycle
Gear Lube". It is a very light synthetically enhanced transmission
oil, that is designed for two stroke transmissions. It makes a big
difference in clutch drag and the shifting action of my Gas Gas, when
compared to Bel Ray.
Get a different bike for working trail, or at least putting up &
taking down arrows. Arrowing a trail makes (finding neutral with the
engine running) an attractive trait.
I ran 15/55 sprockets.
Jim
>On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 19:05:11 GMT, fl...@asecret.net (flyer) wrote:
>The Guy I bought it from said that you had to run a really light oil
>in it but he couldnt remember what kind. It was working fine when I
>got it and after a few days I changed the oil (it had been sitting for
>a couple of years) thats when all the problems started. I have
>straight 20 weight in it now I even had the bel-ray stuff in there.
>Thats why I thought the clutch was fried. I ran it on a local hare
>scramble course a few weeks ago 4.6 miles and you still had to put it
>in neutral to move it while it was not running.
> Brandon
>
>Jim wrote:
>>I understand the problem a little better now.
>>
>>You are experiencing a common problem with the 430 Husky. Every time
>>that I rode my 430WR, for the first time of the day, the clutch plates
>>were stuck together.
>>
>> I had to:
>>1. crank the engine, and let it warm a bit.
>>2. roll the bike forward in neutral, and, while it was still moving,
>>and I was holding in the lever, shift into 1st gear, lurching away.
>>3. Ride from 100 yards to 1 mile with the clutch pulled in, before the
>>clutch would disengage.
>>
>>
>>After that, for the rest of the day, the clutch worked normally.
>>(That is, it had a lot of clutch drag, gut otherwise worked well. )
>>I have been told that a modification of the bearing in the rear of the
>>clutch basket would fix this, but I think that it is a vacuum being
>>formed by the oil on the plates, causing them to stick together.
>>
>>The problem is not worn out plates.
>>
>>Jim Cook
>>
>>
>>
>
Jim Cook / Wudsracer
Tom Buskey
> I experimented with a lot of oils in my 8 years of Husky abuse.
> I was told to run 20 wt.
> I tried atf.
> I tried virgin 20 wt. (I live 1/4 mile from a refinery.)
> I tried JD 303 Grade Tractor Hydraulic & Transmission fluid.
> I tried Haveline 30wt.
> I tried Castrol 10w30.
> I used a lot of the old Duralube (now Champion) LV (light viscosity)
> transmission fluid.
>
I had an '87 430WR. And an '85 400WR, '83 250WR, and '82 250XC. And
before that I went through 2 '82 Honda XR200Rs. I'll never buy
another new Honda.
Anyways, I always ran Mobil 1 10w/40. I never had problems w/ clutch
drag. Startup, riding, end of the day, it was always the same.
On the Hondas, lots of my buddies had tranny problems. I abused the
trannies (downshift full throttle no clutch in a MX) and really should
have ruined at least one of 'em. But I they held up. Years later
they guy I sold it to was still running fine.
I did go through a set of plates on the '83 250. It really wasn't
enough bike for me then.
> The clutch and the drum rear brakes were the only thing that kept
> them from being damn near perfect. (Shifting falls under clutch .)
And the vibration on the 430. I missed my 400. My '99 DR350 has
better suspension, but I really miss the motors on those huskies.
--
Tom Buskey
Ronnie
forever. Its such a pleasure to ride in any condition. Not too much
power for tight woods but enough torque to jam up large hills. I'm
still smilin'!
Ronnie
Jim Cook
My '87 430WR was the first bike that I could ever get up the face
of "Moccasin Hill", at the Bear Creek Cycle Trail @ Kirby,Arkansas.
I first wormed my way up the slope, working through the trees on a
'82 XC 250, in 1984. (My first Husky) I had been trying to get up
that hill since 1979. <G> Can you imagine the handlebars, levers,
pedals, and plastic that I bought between '79 & '87? I climbed that
hill several times over the next few years, but got busy racing, and
slacked up on my trips to Bear Creek. (Also, I joined Breezy Hills
Club)
The last plastic that I lost to "the Hill", was on the Husky, when
Gabe borrowed the bike, and took it over there. "Twern't nutin' but a
little ole fender, Capn." <G> (I don't think that he made it.)
I rode through there a few months ago, and stopped and looked up
the face of Moccasin Hill. For some reason, I didn't feel the
challenge at all. I think it's wonderful, how maturity helps with
self control. <G>
I don't know. I guess it Depends. :-)
Jim
Seasoned Wudsracer
Gas Gas EC250 (Sweet Baby)
www.smackovermotorsports.com
870-725-3966
BJEC AHSCS TSCEC SERA
Let's Go Ridin'!