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Trials Beta Zero Gara 1993

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Ina

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Jan 21, 2003, 12:33:21 PM1/21/03
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I have a 93 Beta Zero Gara I just acquired and have some identification
problems. I have no idea how the previous ordered modified anything and I
can only find a limited amount of specs online or through a dealer.
I have a brake problem, the front disk gets loose.
I have a Dell Orto carb when I believe all Betas of the time were using
Mikunis.
My Cylinder says 269A, is it a 269cc or a 260? I have heard of 270 kits!

If you have a similar bike or just ride trial and want to help a newbie with
MX/Scramble/Enduro.

KoZ


GaryT

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Jan 21, 2003, 1:26:30 PM1/21/03
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I don't know much about Beta's, older or otherwise...maybe Bentley will add
some info...but I do know that the current importer/distributor is C&G sales
in Vermont. http://www.usbeta.com/sys-tmpl/door/

Cosmopolitan Motors in PA were importers prior to C&G.
http://www.cosmotor.com/ and may have info/parts for older bikes. You might
also post this on the Trials Action BB, there's a fair amount of collective
knowledge there http://www.trials.co.uk/index.shtml , go to interactive,
then to bulletin board. Or subscribe to the trials list and post it there.
There's a thread already running about trials messageboards, should give you
the info to access the trials list. The trials list is a great resource for
this kind of stuff.

I can also tell you that on my 00 GasGas, the front rotor is intentionally
loose, called a floating disk as a way to prevent binding the rotor in the
calipers should the front end get *tweaked* and that most all trials bikes
these days come stock with D'ell Orto's though I think the Betas now come
with Mikuni's.

Bentley?... Bentley?
GaryT


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Eric Murray

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Jan 21, 2003, 3:22:04 PM1/21/03
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In article <1043170187.684532@athprx02>, Ina <inani...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I have a 93 Beta Zero Gara I just acquired and have some identification
>problems. I have no idea how the previous ordered modified anything and I
>can only find a limited amount of specs online or through a dealer.
>I have a brake problem, the front disk gets loose.

Dunno about that, I think the Gara used the same floating disc
as the Zero. But its hard to sell from a newsgroup posting
if that's the issue here.

>I have a Dell Orto carb when I believe all Betas of the time were using
>Mikunis.
>My Cylinder says 269A, is it a 269cc or a 260? I have heard of 270 kits!

The Zero motor is a 260. The 270 kits are for the newer Techno motors.
Beta did use some Del Orto carbs in the mid 90s, notably on the
94 and 95 Technos.

Eric

Jeff Wallace

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Jan 21, 2003, 6:47:31 PM1/21/03
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Give Mike Komer at http://www.motorcycle-trials.com/tryalsshop.shtml
a call. He will know (anything) you can think of to ask, about your
Beta. He carries parts and is very helpfull.
There is also Ron Como Sr. & Jr. at
http://www.usbeta.com.cnchost.com/sys-tmpl/door/ They may be
of help.
Check out the links that Mr. T posted. If you would like further
assistance, please post back here and the RMD Trials team will help
with more trials trivia and support links.
Enjoy your bike, it's a hoot when they're running right.
Jeff, 90'Aprilia 280 Climber.
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Bentley Wolfe [Macromedia]

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Jan 22, 2003, 10:08:01 AM1/22/03
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Yeah, and there's a reason they stopped using them... ;0

Jeff posted the two best links. Ron Como and Mike Comer should be able
to help. Bob Ginder at B&J Racing might also be able to help
(http://www.bjracing.com/)

I'd call Mike first, then Bob. They're more vintage-oriented than Ron...

Here's a link to an all beta page that has some links and history:
http://frontpage.tulsaconnect.com/maduko/trials/beta/

--
Regards,

Bentley Wolfe
Senior Support Engineer, Macromedia

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Jan 22, 2003, 2:16:08 PM1/22/03
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"Eric Murray" <sp...@lne.com> wrote:
> Dunno about that, I think the Gara used the same floating disc
> as the Zero. But its hard to tell from a newsgroup posting

> if that's the issue here.

In deed, the Gara was the last year Zero with the most significant
difference being the 36mm USD Paolis instead of the 35s, just like 94-95
Technos. 96 was the first year again for Right Side UP.
The brake is the same on all Zeros.

> >I have a Dell Orto carb when I believe all Betas of the time were using
> >Mikunis.
> >My Cylinder says 269A, is it a 269cc or a 260? I have heard of 270 kits!
> The Zero motor is a 260. The 270 kits are for the newer Techno motors.

The 57.5 mm stroke gives 240cc for the 73mm piston, 260 for the 76mm piston,
268.5 for the 77mm piston (piston/cylinder).
The Techno has 60mm stroke, 72.5mm = 249cc 76mm = 272cc
But why would a cylinder be stamped 269A? 270 models were sold in the late
80s and used the same cases and cylinder design. Could this be a factory
kit? Only way to know would be to take the head or cylinder off and measure
with precision.

> Beta did use some Del Orto carbs in the mid 90s, notably on the
> 94 and 95 Technos.

So a DellOrto carb on a 93 means it is either late 93 or a modification?
Can't find that out myself.

> Eric

KoZ


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