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User Bp
Jan 25, 2012, 10:41:16 PM1/25/12
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Hi all,
The flexible rear turn signal stalks on my '86 Honda tlr200 dualsport
have finally collapsed, despite liberal application of reinforcing
tape 8-)
Service Honda lists the parts as "discontinued", but it's hard to believe
they're unique in the motorcycle world. Does anybody know of a substitute
part, or maybe a workaround using standard supplies? (rubber hose comes
to mind, but there are affixment issues)
The lampholders and wiring are fine, All that's needed is the rubber stalk.
I'd prefer to keep the bike somewhat close to stock, but will settle for
whatever street legal (or unobtrusively illegal) solution I can find.
Thanks for reading,
bob prohaska
The flexible rear turn signal stalks on my '86 Honda tlr200 dualsport
have finally collapsed, despite liberal application of reinforcing
tape 8-)
Service Honda lists the parts as "discontinued", but it's hard to believe
they're unique in the motorcycle world. Does anybody know of a substitute
part, or maybe a workaround using standard supplies? (rubber hose comes
to mind, but there are affixment issues)
The lampholders and wiring are fine, All that's needed is the rubber stalk.
I'd prefer to keep the bike somewhat close to stock, but will settle for
whatever street legal (or unobtrusively illegal) solution I can find.
Thanks for reading,
bob prohaska
Scrape
Jan 27, 2012, 12:48:33 AM1/27/12
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User Bp <b...@www.zefox.net> wrote in news:jfqi0s$fuq$1...@news.albasani.net:
Looks like Motosport might have it in stock:
http://www.motosport.com/dirtbike/oem-parts/HONDA/1986/TLR200/TURN-SIGNAL
http://www.motosport.com/dirtbike/oem-parts/HONDA/1986/TLR200/TURN-SIGNAL
Wudsracer
Jan 27, 2012, 10:01:43 AM1/27/12
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In addition to what friend Scrape told you, any Parts Unlimited
affiliated dealer can get you a pair of aftermarket turn signals (K &
S brand, I believe) for pretty cheap. (+/-$30)
There is a large selection of many styles in the PU "Street" catalog.
I'm sure you will find a suitable replacement for yours.
Good Riding!
Jim
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Jim
Gas Gas DE300
Spanish Delicacy
affiliated dealer can get you a pair of aftermarket turn signals (K &
S brand, I believe) for pretty cheap. (+/-$30)
There is a large selection of many styles in the PU "Street" catalog.
I'm sure you will find a suitable replacement for yours.
Good Riding!
Jim
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Jim
Gas Gas DE300
Spanish Delicacy
john
Jan 27, 2012, 12:52:35 PM1/27/12
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addition of that heavier duty rubber electrical tape....
hng on sec searching... here's a roll it says
"Linerless Rubber Splicing Tape"
i bought mine at the hardware store on the town square, I'm sure most
better hardware stores carry the stuff, it's remarkably durable & looks
like solid rubber when your done if you stretch it just right.
there are universal turn signal kits that you can get on ebay they are a
cheep solution as well. i have a set in my desk drawer for an xr600
conversion that never happened (i gave up street riding)
john
tree's only hit in self defense,
cars are out to get you!
XR650L_Dave
Jan 27, 2012, 2:16:40 PM1/27/12
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sticking out that the rubber goes over is too tiny to use hose or
line.
I've been using wraps of duct tape followed up with a wire tie around
the outer end, with another wire tie or two back to the bike-side of
the mount.
It's ugly, but so's the whole damn bike.
http://home.earthlink.net/~dstephen67/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/picture053.jpg
Dave
User Bp
Jan 28, 2012, 12:27:48 AM1/28/12
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Scrape <noth...@domain.com> wrote:
> Looks like Motosport might have it in stock:
>
> http://www.motosport.com/dirtbike/oem-parts/HONDA/1986/TLR200/TURN-SIGNAL
>
I'm impressed, that's the assembly, and it appears to be in stock.
> Looks like Motosport might have it in stock:
>
> http://www.motosport.com/dirtbike/oem-parts/HONDA/1986/TLR200/TURN-SIGNAL
>
Evidently Service Honda isn't the last word. Thank you!
Left and right will set me back $112. I'll look around a little more
to see if there are more frugal alternatives. I was really hoping
to just replace the rubber extensions.
bob
User Bp
Jan 28, 2012, 12:32:20 AM1/28/12
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Wudsracer <babb...@lucy.com> wrote:
> In addition to what friend Scrape told you, any Parts Unlimited
> affiliated dealer can get you a pair of aftermarket turn signals (K &
> S brand, I believe) for pretty cheap. (+/-$30)
For some perverse reason I'd like to keep the bike "stock". It isn't
> In addition to what friend Scrape told you, any Parts Unlimited
> affiliated dealer can get you a pair of aftermarket turn signals (K &
> S brand, I believe) for pretty cheap. (+/-$30)
really, it's got heated grips, a halogen headlight and a grocery basket.
In practice, yours may prove the best solution, but I'm not willing to
admit it just yet.
Thanks for writing!
bob
User Bp
Jan 28, 2012, 12:40:24 AM1/28/12
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XR650L_Dave <spamT...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I've been using wraps of duct tape followed up with a wire tie around
> the outer end, with another wire tie or two back to the bike-side of
> the mount.
>
> It's ugly, but so's the whole damn bike.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~dstephen67/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/picture053.jpg
Agreed 8-) but at least the signals are pointing in the correct direction
>
> I've been using wraps of duct tape followed up with a wire tie around
> the outer end, with another wire tie or two back to the bike-side of
> the mount.
>
> It's ugly, but so's the whole damn bike.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~dstephen67/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/picture053.jpg
Here's an old photo of mine:
http://www.zefox.net/~bob/mc/reflex/mvc-013f.jpg
The signals are presently pointing at the ground, which isn't much help.
Thanks for writing,
bob
Dean H
Jan 28, 2012, 11:05:48 AM1/28/12
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Hi Bob,
If the assembly is such that you could take it apart and slip in a new
piece, I would dig around on McMaster
Hmm, not too many spacer sizes in rubber
http://www.mcmaster.com/#unthreaded-spacers/=g04cqf
or maybe dig around in tubing
http://www.mcmaster.com/#tubing/=g04efe
They also have that nifty tape that john wrote about.
***
or... if you buy the NOS OEM things, maybe the old ones will have some
ebay value to a guy with good rubber, but broken lenses etc.
good luck!
Cool bike, BTW.
-Dean
User Bp
Jan 28, 2012, 9:38:55 PM1/28/12
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Hi Dean,
Dean H <dfh...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> If the assembly is such that you could take it apart and slip in a new
> piece, I would dig around on McMaster
That's my first choice, but it's a big and very diffuse ore body 8-)
Tubing of some sort was my first guess. I'll have to take the
old signals apart to determine the nearest size. The puzzle
will be securing it. The existing stalks are molded to fit inside
the light house and appear to be molded onto a hollow stud. The wire(s)
go through the stud which goes through a rubber grommet mounted in a
bracket that mounts on _another_ grommet bolted to the frame.
To come close to fitting the tube wall thickness will have to be larger
than normal for fluid transport tubes.
I have to admit, the K&S universal turn signals look much easier.....
around for a while and then just pay my money. The bike has been a
real jewel and is well worth the cost.
bob
Dean H <dfh...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> If the assembly is such that you could take it apart and slip in a new
> piece, I would dig around on McMaster
Tubing of some sort was my first guess. I'll have to take the
old signals apart to determine the nearest size. The puzzle
will be securing it. The existing stalks are molded to fit inside
the light house and appear to be molded onto a hollow stud. The wire(s)
go through the stud which goes through a rubber grommet mounted in a
bracket that mounts on _another_ grommet bolted to the frame.
To come close to fitting the tube wall thickness will have to be larger
than normal for fluid transport tubes.
I have to admit, the K&S universal turn signals look much easier.....
>
> They also have that nifty tape that john wrote about.
>
> ***
> or... if you buy the NOS OEM things, maybe the old ones will have some
> ebay value to a guy with good rubber, but broken lenses etc.
The NOS option looks like the easiest way out. I'll probably thrash
> They also have that nifty tape that john wrote about.
>
> ***
> or... if you buy the NOS OEM things, maybe the old ones will have some
> ebay value to a guy with good rubber, but broken lenses etc.
around for a while and then just pay my money. The bike has been a
real jewel and is well worth the cost.
>
> good luck!
> Cool bike, BTW.
Thank you!
> good luck!
> Cool bike, BTW.
bob
Mike S.
Jan 29, 2012, 1:32:57 AM1/29/12
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XR650L_Dave points to:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~dstephen67/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/picture053.jpg
That a shear in the background? I've been keeping my eyes out
for a foot operated shear for a couple years with no luck.
Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.
> http://home.earthlink.net/~dstephen67/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/picture053.jpg
That a shear in the background? I've been keeping my eyes out
for a foot operated shear for a couple years with no luck.
Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.
Dean H
Jan 29, 2012, 7:45:14 AM1/29/12
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Another option might be to do some strategic whittling and rebuilding
of the rubber using a modified candledipping technique. You could
maybe even do some repair casting in place, crack filling sort of, if
that makes sense... but it might take several pours since the stuff
shrinks.
They stock this at my local True Value hardware
http://www.plastidip.com/
of the rubber using a modified candledipping technique. You could
maybe even do some repair casting in place, crack filling sort of, if
that makes sense... but it might take several pours since the stuff
shrinks.
They stock this at my local True Value hardware
http://www.plastidip.com/
Scrape
Jan 29, 2012, 8:12:45 AM1/29/12
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User Bp <b...@www.zefox.net> wrote in news:jg010k$p01$1...@news.albasani.net:
That was just the first place I looked that I know carry OEM parts.
They're not the cheapest on anything anymore, but one I always check. Good
luck.
They're not the cheapest on anything anymore, but one I always check. Good
luck.
The Real Bev
Jan 29, 2012, 10:55:50 AM1/29/12
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immediately lost it. I still have the tools I wanted to dip new handles
for and they still have bare-metal handles.
One of these days...
--
Cheers, Bev
===================================================
Salesmen welcome -- dog food is expensive
XR650L_Dave
Jan 29, 2012, 12:47:17 PM1/29/12
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On Jan 29, 1:32 am, "Mike S."
<sturd.doesntwants...@virtecenterpises.doesnteither.com> wrote:
> XR650L_Dave points to:
>
> >http://home.earthlink.net/~dstephen67/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderp...
ticket items... he took what he wanted, tossed me and another guy the
keys.
Milling machine, lathe, drill-press for each, air compressor for each,
grinder, belt-sander, shear, brake, AL bars and rods, lots of sheet
metal, lots of odd hardware, lots of specialty wood (other guy took
that), arbor press, quite a lot of other stuff, for the cost of a
rental truck.
Dave
<sturd.doesntwants...@virtecenterpises.doesnteither.com> wrote:
> XR650L_Dave points to:
>
> >http://home.earthlink.net/~dstephen67/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderp...
>
> That a shear in the background? I've been keeping my eyes out
> for a foot operated shear for a couple years with no luck.
>
> Go fast. Take chances.
> Mike S.
Years ago a fellow bought the contents of a warehouse for a few big
> That a shear in the background? I've been keeping my eyes out
> for a foot operated shear for a couple years with no luck.
>
> Go fast. Take chances.
> Mike S.
ticket items... he took what he wanted, tossed me and another guy the
keys.
Milling machine, lathe, drill-press for each, air compressor for each,
grinder, belt-sander, shear, brake, AL bars and rods, lots of sheet
metal, lots of odd hardware, lots of specialty wood (other guy took
that), arbor press, quite a lot of other stuff, for the cost of a
rental truck.
Dave
User Bp
Jan 29, 2012, 9:38:52 PM1/29/12
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Scrape <noth...@domain.com> wrote:
>
> That was just the first place I looked that I know carry OEM parts.
> They're not the cheapest on anything anymore, but one I always check. Good
> luck.
I looked at a couple of other places found using Google, including one in
>
> That was just the first place I looked that I know carry OEM parts.
> They're not the cheapest on anything anymore, but one I always check. Good
> luck.
the UK, where tlr200s are much more popular than in the US. No stock at all.
It seems that nobody at all has the little rubber grommets that serve as
vibration isolators. Mine are not gone, but getting rather sad.
For the moment, I've fitted a pair of rubber hose splints, held on with
cable ties. Eventually they'll have to be replaced, but at least for now
the lights are functional and the wiring's not getting beaten up. The idea
of doing a neat repair with hose looks very difficult because of the way
the stalks are mounted at the ends; both are complicated molded shapes.
Thanks to everybody who replied,
bob prohaska
Scrape
Jan 30, 2012, 7:17:36 AM1/30/12
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User Bp <b...@www.zefox.net> wrote in news:jg4vrs$7be$1...@news.albasani.net:
Don't know if this was in place when you looked at it the other day, but I
just got an e-mail from Motosport saying that all OEM parts are now on sale
for 25% off.
They tend to make up their MSRP numbers on a lot of occasions, so take that
with a grain of salt, but it might be worth checking to see if they're
cheaper than when you looked the other day.
just got an e-mail from Motosport saying that all OEM parts are now on sale
for 25% off.
They tend to make up their MSRP numbers on a lot of occasions, so take that
with a grain of salt, but it might be worth checking to see if they're
cheaper than when you looked the other day.
Tiago
Jan 30, 2012, 8:45:52 AM1/30/12
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similar to the ones on my old NX200. The lens, I'm 200% are the same,
the rear stalk look sooo similar...
http://www.mototec.net.br/img/produtos/PISCA_CBX__NX_20_4c2a58d71722f.jpg
Found online:
http://www.motomoura.com.br/Produto-PECAS-P-MOTOS-Bloco-Vidro-Pisca-Pisca-Completo-CBX-200-Strada-NX-150200XLX-350-Valplas-versao-2529-2545.aspx
http://www.motomoura.com.br/Produto-PECAS-P-MOTOS-Bloco-Vidro-Pisca-Pisca-Completo-CBX-200-StradaNX-150200XLX-350-Riffel-versao-6577-6601.aspx
and just the inner rubber part (was what broke often on mine)
http://www.motomoura.com.br/Produto-PECAS-P-MOTOS-Suportes-Escovas-Partida-Suporte-Pisca-Titan-125-KSESTitan-150CBX-250-Twister-Coxim-BRV-versao-7942-7967.aspx
these are not OEM.
hth,
T
User Bp
Jan 30, 2012, 11:09:11 PM1/30/12
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Tiago <diarioda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.mototec.net.br/img/produtos/PISCA_CBX__NX_20_4c2a58d71722f.jpg
That looks quite a bit shorter than the originals (the stalks on mine are
about twice the length of the lampholder) but otherwise very similar.
But, where do the wires come out? On mine they're threaded down through
the mounting stud.
>
> Found online:
> http://www.motomoura.com.br/Produto-PECAS-P-MOTOS-Bloco-Vidro-Pisca-Pisca-Completo-CBX-200-Strada-NX-150200XLX-350-Valplas-versao-2529-2545.aspx
>
This one has the wires in the right place....
> http://www.motomoura.com.br/Produto-PECAS-P-MOTOS-Bloco-Vidro-Pisca-Pisca-Completo-CBX-200-StradaNX-150200XLX-350-Riffel-versao-6577-6601.aspx
>
> and just the inner rubber part (was what broke often on mine)
> http://www.motomoura.com.br/Produto-PECAS-P-MOTOS-Suportes-Escovas-Partida-Suporte-Pisca-Titan-125-KSESTitan-150CBX-250-Twister-Coxim-BRV-versao-7942-7967.aspx
Can't make this item out; mount stud's on the left, but what are the two
yellow things on the right? Truncated wires?
Realistically the shipping would probably overwhelm any advantage in price,
but what is the exchange rate between R$ and US$? The prices look very low.
Thanks for writing,
bob prohaska
>
> http://www.mototec.net.br/img/produtos/PISCA_CBX__NX_20_4c2a58d71722f.jpg
That looks quite a bit shorter than the originals (the stalks on mine are
about twice the length of the lampholder) but otherwise very similar.
But, where do the wires come out? On mine they're threaded down through
the mounting stud.
>
> Found online:
> http://www.motomoura.com.br/Produto-PECAS-P-MOTOS-Bloco-Vidro-Pisca-Pisca-Completo-CBX-200-Strada-NX-150200XLX-350-Valplas-versao-2529-2545.aspx
>
This one has the wires in the right place....
> http://www.motomoura.com.br/Produto-PECAS-P-MOTOS-Bloco-Vidro-Pisca-Pisca-Completo-CBX-200-StradaNX-150200XLX-350-Riffel-versao-6577-6601.aspx
>
> and just the inner rubber part (was what broke often on mine)
> http://www.motomoura.com.br/Produto-PECAS-P-MOTOS-Suportes-Escovas-Partida-Suporte-Pisca-Titan-125-KSESTitan-150CBX-250-Twister-Coxim-BRV-versao-7942-7967.aspx
yellow things on the right? Truncated wires?
Realistically the shipping would probably overwhelm any advantage in price,
but what is the exchange rate between R$ and US$? The prices look very low.
Thanks for writing,
bob prohaska
User Bp
Jan 30, 2012, 11:29:29 PM1/30/12
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Scrape <noth...@domain.com> wrote:
> just got an e-mail from Motosport saying that all OEM parts are now on sale
> for 25% off.
>
> They tend to make up their MSRP numbers on a lot of occasions, so take that
> with a grain of salt, but it might be worth checking to see if they're
> cheaper than when you looked the other day.
From the fiche it looks like the right signal is down to $40, but the
> just got an e-mail from Motosport saying that all OEM parts are now on sale
> for 25% off.
>
> They tend to make up their MSRP numbers on a lot of occasions, so take that
> with a grain of salt, but it might be worth checking to see if they're
> cheaper than when you looked the other day.
left is out of stock 8-( Looks like I missed the bus....
The descriptions seem a bit misleading; key 11 is rather
obviously the left hand rear turn signal, but the description says
TURN SIGNAL, R. RR. unless I'm badly confused (which has happened!)
I think I'll hang up my museum curator's hat and just enjoy the
bike with the rubber hose splints. Sooner or later something I
can't fix is going to break and then it won't matter,
Thanks for writing!
bob prohaska
Tiago
Jan 31, 2012, 5:34:55 AM1/31/12
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On Jan 31, 1:09 am, User Bp <b...@www.zefox.net> wrote:
> Tiago <diariodastril...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.mototec.net.br/img/produtos/PISCA_CBX__NX_20_4c2a58d71722f...
wires.
>
>
>
> > Found online:
> >http://www.motomoura.com.br/Produto-PECAS-P-MOTOS-Bloco-Vidro-Pisca-P...
the rubber part. There is a screw... This is exactly the part that
break. If your blikers are just like mine were (with longer stalk),
there should be a rubber part right where it attach to the bike, about
2cm wide, then the stalk. Every time, this rubber part broke (snapped
right on the mount stud -left side-) and the bliker would dangle. The
stalk was always fine.
My current street bike has the same part, however completely different
blinkers. When the rubbers broke, I had trouble finding this rubber
locally, so I got the entire blinker (about 5usd) and dumped
everything but this part.
>
> Realistically the shipping would probably overwhelm any advantage in price,
> but what is the exchange rate between R$ and US$? The prices look very low.
around 1USD = 1.75BRL, or 57cents for 1 Real
I would guess shipping around 10USD...
These parts are aftermarket and they are part of the top selling bike
of all time (the mighty Honda CG125, too bad you guys at U.S. never
got it, it is the closest thing as "indestructible motorcycle" there
is out there), with millions sold around the world. This site doesn't
do enough justice for it's qualities:
http://world.honda.com/history/challenge/1975cg125/text/01.html
From that site, this is the biggest understatement of the century.
Real life is much worse... :)
"They continued to use oil even after it had turned into goo," Inagaki
said, "and the paper filter elements in the air cleaners would become
solid as a dirt wall from all the dust. The drive chains would be
stretched out to their maximum adjustable lengths, and were worn and
torn from hitting the chain case. The examples of such abuse went on
and on. One after another, we saw spectacles we'd never even imagined
possible from our home base in Japan."
-- T
> Tiago <diariodastril...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.mototec.net.br/img/produtos/PISCA_CBX__NX_20_4c2a58d71722f...
>
> That looks quite a bit shorter than the originals (the stalks on mine are
> about twice the length of the lampholder) but otherwise very similar.
> But, where do the wires come out? On mine they're threaded down through
> the mounting stud.
They come through the mounting stud. I guess the picture is without
> That looks quite a bit shorter than the originals (the stalks on mine are
> about twice the length of the lampholder) but otherwise very similar.
> But, where do the wires come out? On mine they're threaded down through
> the mounting stud.
wires.
>
>
>
> > Found online:
> >http://www.motomoura.com.br/Produto-PECAS-P-MOTOS-Bloco-Vidro-Pisca-P...
>
> This one has the wires in the right place....
>
> >http://www.motomoura.com.br/Produto-PECAS-P-MOTOS-Bloco-Vidro-Pisca-P...
> This one has the wires in the right place....
>
>
> > and just the inner rubber part (was what broke often on mine)
> >http://www.motomoura.com.br/Produto-PECAS-P-MOTOS-Suportes-Escovas-Pa...
> > and just the inner rubber part (was what broke often on mine)
>
> Can't make this item out; mount stud's on the left, but what are the two
> yellow things on the right? Truncated wires?
Mount stud on the left and on the right is where it is attached inside
> Can't make this item out; mount stud's on the left, but what are the two
> yellow things on the right? Truncated wires?
the rubber part. There is a screw... This is exactly the part that
break. If your blikers are just like mine were (with longer stalk),
there should be a rubber part right where it attach to the bike, about
2cm wide, then the stalk. Every time, this rubber part broke (snapped
right on the mount stud -left side-) and the bliker would dangle. The
stalk was always fine.
My current street bike has the same part, however completely different
blinkers. When the rubbers broke, I had trouble finding this rubber
locally, so I got the entire blinker (about 5usd) and dumped
everything but this part.
>
> Realistically the shipping would probably overwhelm any advantage in price,
> but what is the exchange rate between R$ and US$? The prices look very low.
I would guess shipping around 10USD...
These parts are aftermarket and they are part of the top selling bike
of all time (the mighty Honda CG125, too bad you guys at U.S. never
got it, it is the closest thing as "indestructible motorcycle" there
is out there), with millions sold around the world. This site doesn't
do enough justice for it's qualities:
http://world.honda.com/history/challenge/1975cg125/text/01.html
From that site, this is the biggest understatement of the century.
Real life is much worse... :)
"They continued to use oil even after it had turned into goo," Inagaki
said, "and the paper filter elements in the air cleaners would become
solid as a dirt wall from all the dust. The drive chains would be
stretched out to their maximum adjustable lengths, and were worn and
torn from hitting the chain case. The examples of such abuse went on
and on. One after another, we saw spectacles we'd never even imagined
possible from our home base in Japan."
-- T
The Real Bev
Jan 31, 2012, 12:17:12 PM1/31/12
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On 01/31/2012 02:34 AM, Tiago wrote:
> "They continued to use oil even after it had turned into goo," Inagaki
> said, "and the paper filter elements in the air cleaners would become
> solid as a dirt wall from all the dust. The drive chains would be
> stretched out to their maximum adjustable lengths, and were worn and
> torn from hitting the chain case. The examples of such abuse went on
> and on. One after another, we saw spectacles we'd never even imagined
> possible from our home base in Japan."
A co-worker didn't know you were supposed to oil the chain. He had a
> "They continued to use oil even after it had turned into goo," Inagaki
> said, "and the paper filter elements in the air cleaners would become
> solid as a dirt wall from all the dust. The drive chains would be
> stretched out to their maximum adjustable lengths, and were worn and
> torn from hitting the chain case. The examples of such abuse went on
> and on. One after another, we saw spectacles we'd never even imagined
> possible from our home base in Japan."
fine spray of iron oxide all over the rear of his motorcycle. I told
him I wouldn't take his new computer to his home unless he walked across
the street, bought a can of chain lube and USED it before we left.
He went on to make pots of money and marry a big-name anchorlady.
Smarts comes in many forms.
--
Cheers, Bev
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Vampireware; n, a project capable of sucking the lifeblood
out of anyone unfortunate enough to be assigned to it,
which never actually sees the light of day, but nonetheless
refuses to die. -- Trygve Lode
Tiago
Jan 31, 2012, 1:01:31 PM1/31/12
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Smart is *highly* overrated. The real smart guys are the ones that
everybody else think they aren't. These are the ones that work less
and make more money. I'm getting tired of being regarded as "smart"
and having the odd all-nighters projects *all* assigned to me, the
"dumb" folks that work with me seldom stay after 5pm. I'm owing a
translation job and I can't for the life of my loved ones stand
turning the computer at home, but I will get it done, eventually. :)
I need vacations again, or riding my CG for a few thousand miles, or
even run away screaming...
> --
> Cheers, Bev
> 66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666
> Vampireware; n, a project capable of sucking the lifeblood
> out of anyone unfortunate enough to be assigned to it,
> which never actually sees the light of day, but nonetheless
> refuses to die. -- Trygve Lode
ouch! talk about my reality right over there!
Also: zombieware: they see the light of the day, but they are only
trouble, you'd better had them killed right away, they refuse to get
completely "live"!
-- Tiago
everybody else think they aren't. These are the ones that work less
and make more money. I'm getting tired of being regarded as "smart"
and having the odd all-nighters projects *all* assigned to me, the
"dumb" folks that work with me seldom stay after 5pm. I'm owing a
translation job and I can't for the life of my loved ones stand
turning the computer at home, but I will get it done, eventually. :)
I need vacations again, or riding my CG for a few thousand miles, or
even run away screaming...
> --
> Cheers, Bev
> 66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666
> Vampireware; n, a project capable of sucking the lifeblood
> out of anyone unfortunate enough to be assigned to it,
> which never actually sees the light of day, but nonetheless
> refuses to die. -- Trygve Lode
Also: zombieware: they see the light of the day, but they are only
trouble, you'd better had them killed right away, they refuse to get
completely "live"!
-- Tiago
The Real Bev
Jan 31, 2012, 2:09:22 PM1/31/12
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On 01/31/2012 10:01 AM, Tiago wrote:
> On Jan 31, 2:17 pm, The Real Bev<bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Smarts comes in many forms.
>
> Smart is *highly* overrated. The real smart guys are the ones that
> everybody else think they aren't. These are the ones that work less
> and make more money.
The guy was a real manipulator; even when he was doing it you couldn't
> On Jan 31, 2:17 pm, The Real Bev<bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Smarts comes in many forms.
>
> Smart is *highly* overrated. The real smart guys are the ones that
> everybody else think they aren't. These are the ones that work less
> and make more money.
figure out how to deal with it.
> I'm getting tired of being regarded as "smart"
> and having the odd all-nighters projects *all* assigned to me, the
> "dumb" folks that work with me seldom stay after 5pm. I'm owing a
> translation job and I can't for the life of my loved ones stand
> turning the computer at home, but I will get it done, eventually. :)
busy." Bastards. If I'd been smarter I would have made a point of
always grabbing the wrong end of the screwdriver.
> I need vacations again, or riding my CG for a few thousand miles, or
> even run away screaming...
if we'd won the contract. Pay phone, before cells. We lost. Feh.
>> Vampireware; n, a project capable of sucking the lifeblood
>> out of anyone unfortunate enough to be assigned to it,
>> which never actually sees the light of day, but nonetheless
>> refuses to die. -- Trygve Lode
>
> ouch! talk about my reality right over there!
experience.
> Also: zombieware: they see the light of the day, but they are only
> trouble, you'd better had them killed right away, they refuse to get
> completely "live"!
--
Cheers, Bev
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our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security."
--Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.
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