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Tim H

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Apr 9, 2012, 12:38:16 PM4/9/12
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I tore my bike ALL of the way apart last December for what was
supposed to be a quick overhaul. Naturally, as soon as the bike was
stripped to the last circlip, everything else we own broke down,
dragging the poor Gasser overhaul out until this weekend. Finally, at
4:06 AM Easter morning it was complete. Crawled to bed, woke up at
7:30 to load the bikes and head north to our friend Brady's place for
one of the finest private trail systems anywhere (besides, Brady IS
the ordained Minister that performed Maria Forsberg's wedding ceremony
last year, who better to ride with on Easter?).
Fortunately I realized during the nap filled ride to Brady's that I
had neglected to finish adjusting the chain and both axles were still
loose, so I finished that stuff before I tried to ride the bike. It
had also been dripping a little coolant in the back of the truck that
we traced to the outlet fitting on the head, but after the first full
heat cycle on the engine it seems to have sealed itself up. Bitchin'!
It was a perfect northwest day, 60 degrees, damp tacky soil with a few
puddles and mud spots still around, and the sweetest non-public
single track you could ask for. The bike worked great.
I sucked. After about an hour I started to remember how to ride, but
by then I was physically about 3/4 spent. I held on for a couple more
hours, but finally called it quits before I made any major mistakes
and messed up my spiffy "new" bike.
I'm supposed to race the first Enduro of the season next weekend, but
I'm having second thoughts.
Here's a link to a few pictures of the new bike: (http://
s1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc392/tntharrell/The%20GasGas%20is
%20reborn/). I rather like the way it came out. Every bearing in the
bike is new, the top end and cylinder are new, new pipe, new plastic,
new seat, new shifter and brake pedal, and replaced every replaceable
part in the brake systems. Les at LTR rebuilt the suspension at both
ends (and it is wonderful). I fully intended to refresh whatever
needed it inside the engine and tranny, but everything in there looked
like new (really), so it just got new bearings and seals. I still need
tires and brake rotors.
The plastic change was thanks to a limited time screaming deal on
Polisport plastic from Motorcycle Superstore.com which allowed me to
replace the entire bodywork for a whopping $68 (both fenders, both
radiator shrouds, both side panels, and the air box extension/shock
guard that hangs from the bottom of the airbox. I stocked up and order
three sets of plastic. This is the first time in my life that I have
replaced functional plastic just because it would look better. I'm
thinking it was money pretty well spent.
It sure is nice to get back in the saddle.

Tim H

IdaSpode

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Apr 9, 2012, 2:37:32 PM4/9/12
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:38:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim H <tntha...@msn.com>
wrote:

>I tore my bike ALL of the way apart last December for what was
>supposed to be a quick overhaul.
<snip>
>Tim H

Looks great Tim!

David

Dean H

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Apr 9, 2012, 3:01:35 PM4/9/12
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> I'm
> thinking it was money pretty well spent.
> It sure is nice to get back in the saddle.
>
> Tim H

Looks awesome. Where did you get the graphics?

Tim H

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Apr 9, 2012, 5:23:30 PM4/9/12
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Thank you Dean, that means a lot coming from one who knows the trials
and tribulations. If I can just get Jeff Wallace's approval, I'll be
good with all of the GG restorers.
Graphics are from GraphicsMX. I was looking for something not
so...flashy. A lot of current graphics are way too busy for my taste.
I think these ones worked out pretty well.
Isn't it nice to bring the old girls back up to speed?

Tim H

HardWorkingDog

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Apr 9, 2012, 5:47:46 PM4/9/12
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In article
<744d78aa-892d-42cd...@lf20g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Tim H <tntha...@msn.com> wrote:

> If I can just get Jeff Wallace's approval, I'll be
> good with all of the GG restorers.

Good, that means I don't have to chime in and say how nice that bike
looks.

:)

--
Charles
'99 YZ250

Tim H

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Apr 9, 2012, 5:54:42 PM4/9/12
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On Apr 9, 2:47 pm, HardWorkingDog <har...@mush.man> wrote:
> In article
> <744d78aa-892d-42cd-b1e7-27e9a47c7...@lf20g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
>  Tim H <tntharr...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > If I can just get Jeff Wallace's approval, I'll be
> > good with all of the GG restorers.
>
> Good, that means I don't have to chime in and say how nice that bike
> looks.
>
> :)
>
> --
> Charles
> '99 YZ250

Yep, you're off the hook Charles.
But thanks anyway

Tim H

Tami Rowell

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Apr 9, 2012, 6:18:30 PM4/9/12
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And we all know what my GG looks like so I guess I don't need to chime
in with a "She's beautiful!" either <G>

Hope everyone had a happy Easter. Sure sounds like you did , Tim!




Tami-

The Real Bev

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Apr 9, 2012, 7:08:16 PM4/9/12
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On 04/09/2012 02:54 PM, Tim H wrote:

> On Apr 9, 2:47 pm, HardWorkingDog<har...@mush.man> wrote:
>> Tim H<tntharr...@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> > If I can just get Jeff Wallace's approval, I'll be
>> > good with all of the GG restorers.
>>
>> Good, that means I don't have to chime in and say how nice that bike
>> looks.
>
> Yep, you're off the hook Charles.
> But thanks anyway

"I rather like the way it came out." If that isn't today's winner in
the false modesty category I don't know what is!

Pretty!

--
Cheers, Bev
==============================================================
"I am working for the time when unqualified blacks, browns and
women join the unqualified men in running our government"
-- Cissy Farenthold

Volker Bartheld

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Apr 10, 2012, 5:00:10 AM4/10/12
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Hi Tim!

On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:38:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim H wrote:
> http://
> s1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc392/tntharrell/The%20GasGas%20is
> %20reborn/

Excellent job! You should probably have that clutch cover (image 8)
powdercoated in black and add new swingarm stickers. Just for that last
percent of perfection... ;-)

> This is the first time in my life that I have replaced functional plastic
> just because it would look better. I'm thinking it was money pretty well
> spent.

It can (and will) get even worse: You will buy a brand new bike, remove all
plastics put them into protective bags and buy a complete new set just
because you don't like the color!

Cheers,
Volker

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@: I N F O at B A R T H E L D dot N E T
3W: www.bartheld.net

SloCalSpode

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Apr 10, 2012, 11:05:30 AM4/10/12
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On Apr 9, 9:38 am, Tim H > wrote:
<SNIP>
> Here's a link to a few pictures of the new bike: (http://
> s1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc392/tntharrell/The%20GasGas%20is
> %20reborn/)..
>
> Tim H

Oh my! Tim, you've raised the bar this time. How is a lazy old Spode
like
me supposed to hang with that?!?!? Nice Job.
Me = neglected GasGas lately. I have not ridden it (either of them)
since
last Sept-Oct. It still has the Mojave Desert dirt encrusted upon it
from then.
I did pick up a new Messico pipe off e-bay a month ago. Not that I
needed
it, but, the price was too good to pass up.
I have been planning to do a major overhaul for some time now. Maybe
your
work will inspire me. I was going to send my suspension to Les @ LTR,
but,
I just read Les had a serious medical issue last weekend. I wish him
the best
is his recovery.
Take care and Happy Riding!
Jeff

Wudsracer

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Apr 10, 2012, 12:16:00 PM4/10/12
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Tim,
The bike looks really really good! I need some graphics for my new
plastics.
Did you get the graphics directly from graphicmx.com? Or, did you call
someone or go through a dealer. I like the uncluttered look. I've
been having a problem getting the web site to come up.

You did it right. Ironman sprockets? What chain did you install?

I was speaking with Matt Stavish last week.
http://checkpointoff-road.com/
They sell teflon coated wheel spacer sets (three of the "outside"
spacers and a really beefy brake pedal pivot pin/bushing. Phil now
has the '04 EC300, and we installed one of Matt's brake pedal pivot
pins on it. It fixed that problem. (Remember last year, when we did a
"southern construction" fix on it at the Wudi13?)
His dad, Bill, makes some pretty stuff.
For those who have the small ignition, they have the best price on
flywheel weights. He said that for a special order, they could make
the 12 oz weight lighter, no problem. (I run the 10 oz on mine ever
since I had RB Designs modify my cylinder head.)

Did you hear about Les Tinius's illness? A fellow called me this
morning and told me that he had undergone a quadruple bypass, and then
had a really bad heart attack.

Good Riding and Good Job on the bike!
Jim


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Tim H

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Apr 10, 2012, 12:50:46 PM4/10/12
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On Apr 10, 9:16 am, Wudsracer <babba...@Lucy.com> wrote:
> Tim,
>   The bike looks really really good!  I need some graphics for my new
> plastics.
> Did you get the graphics directly from graphicmx.com? Or, did you call
> someone or go through a dealer. I like the uncluttered look.  I've
> been having a problem getting the web site to come up.

Wet through GraphicMX direct. There were...issues. It took almost 5
weeks for my stuff to show up. They saifd they had a total server
meltdown that shut them off for a full week, then some recovery time
and all. Then the box arrived crushed from shipping, so I was worried
that the crimped graphics (rolled up in the box) might be adversely
affected, but it appears to be OK. I searched everything I could find
looking for a nice clean look. I was little concerned with these being
too much, but I really like them on the bike.
>
>   You did it right.  Ironman sprockets? What chain did you install?

Yep, Ironman sprockets. That's the third countershaft sprocket and
second chain (RK X-Ring, XSO?) on that rear sprocket (2 years old
now). Countershaft needs to be changed again, and after that I'll see
how it holds up over the rest of the chain life. I love these
sprockets.

>   I was speaking with Matt Stavish last week.http://checkpointoff-road.com/
>   They sell teflon coated wheel spacer sets (three of the "outside"
> spacers and a really beefy brake pedal pivot pin/bushing.  Phil now
> has the '04 EC300, and we installed one of Matt's brake pedal pivot
> pins on it. It fixed that problem. (Remember last year, when we did a
> "southern construction" fix on it at the Wudi13?)
>   His dad, Bill, makes some pretty stuff.
>   For those who have the small ignition, they have the best price on
> flywheel weights. He said that for a special order, they could make
> the 12 oz weight lighter, no problem. (I run the 10 oz on mine ever
> since I had RB Designs modify my cylinder head.)

I have their spacers, and used their brake pedal pivot too, but the
knew brake pedal is a Yamaha YZ250 pedal and pivot bolt, so I can't
use the Checkpoint part any more : ( .
The wheel spacers are one of the absolute best deals on a dirt bike
part I have ever run across (right up there with the $10 Polisport
plastics.) It cost less for all three teflon coated spacers than for
the cheapest soft aluminum GasGas part of the three. I'm a big fan and
supporter of Checkpoint Off-Road. Good stuff.

>   Did you hear about Les Tinius's illness?  A fellow called me this
> morning and told me that he had undergone a quadruple bypass, and then
> had a really bad heart attack.

Yeah, I just heard this morning. I understand the order was reversed,
heart attack at home and bypass surgery to keep him alive, but I can't
swear to that. Regardless, it really, really sucks. Les is one of the
nicest people I have ever met (hell, he makes YOU look like a grouchy
old curmudgeon).

> Good Riding and Good Job on the bike!
> Jim

Thanks Jim. I'm sure glad I talked you into opening that box of new
plastic while I had you on the phone that day. Just like you, that
stuff give me a big ol' smile every time I look at it.

Tim H

Tim H

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Apr 10, 2012, 2:41:08 PM4/10/12
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On Apr 10, 9:16 am, Wudsracer <babba...@Lucy.com> wrote:
> Tim,
>   The bike looks really really good!  I need some graphics for my new
> plastics.
> Did you get the graphics directly from graphicmx.com? Or, did you call
> someone or go through a dealer. I like the uncluttered look.  I've
> been having a problem getting the web site to come up.

> Jim

Theresa tells me you called this morning asking about this (she's
sorry she didn't get to talk to you). I just pulled it up on their
website, so maybe it's working better now...
Try http://graphicmx.com/ggkit.shtml, Mine is the "Sharp" pattern.
Good luck.

TIm H

JayC

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Apr 11, 2012, 1:49:09 AM4/11/12
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On Apr 9, 12:38 pm, Tim H <tntharr...@msn.com> wrote:
> I tore my bike ALL of the way apart last December for what was
> supposed to be a quick overhaul. Naturally, as soon as the bike was
> stripped to the last circlip, everything else we own broke down,
> dragging the poor Gasser overhaul out until this weekend. Finally, at
> 4:06 AM Easter morning it was complete.

Pretty. Funny how those weekend projects turn into a season. I did a
little spring cleaning Easter weekend myself:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7039/7058851663_dd6a10e25a_z_d.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5034/6912768726_347b9e5a17_z_d.jpg

Oddly, I didn't have a tire in my whole garage that had more than a
PSI in it when I dragged (pretty much literally) them out. I suspect
sabotage. Didn't get to ride any yet though - still a bit yucky out
in the woods.

JayC

Phil Thomas

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Apr 11, 2012, 9:25:05 AM4/11/12
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Nice.

OEM Hebo headlight? I notice in pic's 3, 4, 5 the cable guide missing,
and then in 8 you installed one of those hi-dollar works cable guides.
Good stuff. Always wanted one of those. Right up ther with that works
orange powerband.

Send ur addy to m x p h l i p p e r a t g m a i l d o t c o
m and a little lagniappe might arrive at ur door step.

I've got the oem Hebo headlight but replaced it with a yellow,
Polisport headlight (http://www.polisport.com/motorbikes/produtos.php?
ID=43) I bought when I was trying to buy what little plastic was left
at MSS after you raped them.

I swear the Polisport has the same exact bulb housing. Plug and play.
Only issue is the wires for the headlight contact the overflow on the
steering head. Thought I had it clear, but sheared one of the posts
off. Have to work on that.

I went all yellow as well. When I was helping Jim clear out his shop,
he had frt, rear, side, and shrouds in yellow. I got a deal as good as
MSS, but it's OEM. We finally got him out of there. He had the whole
family working it. No graphics. Carbon fiber look seat cover.

BTW, I've got a bunch of this carbon fiber material. I bout a small
pneumatic staple gun. Used to do that kinda thing in the Air Force. I
bet I got enuff material for 20 covers. Think there's a market here on
RMD for me to make some covers for folks? I was thinking $30
+shipping. Might pay enuff for gas to the enduro at Trainrobbers. hehe

Tim H

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Apr 11, 2012, 10:47:05 AM4/11/12
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On Apr 11, 6:25 am, Phil Thomas <mxphlip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nice.
>
> OEM Hebo headlight? I notice in pic's 3, 4, 5 the cable guide missing,
> and then in 8 you installed one of those hi-dollar works cable guides.
> Good stuff. Always wanted one of those. Right up ther with that works
> orange powerband.

Yep, stock type Hebo headlight. That one came from Joe Dowd a while
back (for Scott's bike to use during night enduro's), and I broke my
stock blue one the last ride before the bike came apart. Good eye on
the cable guide, Phil! I was wondering if anyone would notice that and
bust my balls for it. I sort of, uh, forgot to put the guide on at
4AM, and didn't notice it until I was at Brady's house 100 miles away.
The plumber's tape worked just fine, thanks very much. Light weight,
too.
The worst part is, now I can't find the damn cable guide for the black
headlight. I have one in blue, but the black one is hiding.

> Send ur addy to m x p h l i p p e r   a t   g m a i l    d o t    c o
> m      and a little lagniappe might arrive at ur door step.

Mail sent.

> I've got the oem Hebo headlight but replaced it with a yellow,
> Polisport headlight (http://www.polisport.com/motorbikes/produtos.php?
> ID=43) I bought when I was trying to buy what little plastic was left
> at MSS after you raped them.

I just couldn't decide on one, so I waited too long and they were
pretty much out of them. That's OK, the Hebo works pretty well (I have
a 60W/60W bulb in it that puts out a pretty good beam, WAY better than
the stock 35W/35W bulbs).
>
> I swear the Polisport has the same exact bulb housing. Plug and play.
> Only issue is the wires for the headlight contact the overflow on the
> steering head. Thought I had it clear, but sheared one of the posts
> off. Have to work on that.

Those little posts are stupidly fragile.
I left the expansion tank off the steering head. One of the hoses from
the radiators to the expansion tank is the right length to connect the
two radiators directly. It really opens up the space behind the
headlight. I'm going to make an overflow/recovery tank out of a
plastic turkey baster that should zip tie to the radiator guards
somewhere out of the way.

> I went all yellow as well. When I was helping Jim clear out his shop,
> he had frt, rear, side, and shrouds in yellow.

Perhaps I'm biased, but I think they look damn good in yellow.

> I got a deal as good as MSS, but it's OEM.

It helps when you "know a guy", doesn't it?

> We finally got him out of there. He had the whole
> family working it.

Just the Cook family? I'd a thought he'd need 2 or 3 extra families to
make it through that place.
I'll bet there were a lot of forgotten treasures uncovered in the
process. Did everything move to Jim's new shop?

> No graphics. Carbon fiber look seat cover.

I toyed with leaving mine solid yellow and replicating the Suzuki logo
from the early DeCoster era work 'Zooks, but ultimately I was too lazy
to get the decals made, and I really appreciate the protective
properties of the full graphics, so when I found these nice, clean
graphics I just took the easy way out.

> BTW, I've got a bunch of this carbon fiber material. I bout a small
> pneumatic staple gun. Used to do that kinda thing in the Air Force. I
> bet I got enuff material for 20 covers. Think there's a market here on
> RMD for me to make some covers for folks? I was thinking $30
> +shipping. Might pay enuff for gas to the enduro at Trainrobbers. hehe

You might make that offer over at the GasGas Riders forum, too. I
think you'd find some interest, especially at that price. I just might
be up for one too.

Tim H



Mike S.

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Apr 11, 2012, 9:30:19 PM4/11/12
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mxphlipper obfuscates:

> a little lagniappe might arrive at ur door step.

Gurgle translate does not know creole. Had to ask
Amy the Wonder Wife.


Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.

Wudsracer

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Apr 12, 2012, 1:32:05 PM4/12/12
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>On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:50:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim H <tntha...@msn.com> wrote:

>Yeah, I just heard this morning. I understand the order was reversed,
>heart attack at home and bypass surgery to keep him alive, but I can't
>swear to that. Regardless, it really, really sucks. Les is one of the
>nicest people I have ever met (hell, he makes YOU look like a grouchy
>old curmudgeon).


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Hell, I am a grouch old curmudgeon. Just ask Deb.

Good Riding!
Jim



Wudsracer

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Apr 12, 2012, 1:45:54 PM4/12/12
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______________________________________________
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It's pronounced as "lahn yahp" in cajun speak.

Mr. Webster's southern descendent
Jim


Wudsracer

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Apr 12, 2012, 1:56:10 PM4/12/12
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Tim,
Did Phil send you both the plastic bar and the black round wear
ring? I think I have a couple of those somewhere in storage.

The shelves are now put together, but the parts are still in boxes
in a storage building. Someday soon Reggie and I will start moving
them to their new home. (I'll post a photobucket picture's location
of my new work digs sometimes in the fairly near future.)

How about a link to a supplier for those 60 watt bulbs, and an
identifier for the product?
TIA!

Good Riding!
Jim

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Tim H

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Apr 12, 2012, 2:12:46 PM4/12/12
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On Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:56:10 AM UTC-7, Wudsracer wrote:
> Tim,
> Did Phil send you both the plastic bar and the black round wear
> ring? I think I have a couple of those somewhere in storage.

I don't know, he only mailed them yesterday and he didn't say WHAT he was sending. I assumed it was headlight related, though. If you stumble across a couple of those wear rings, I wouldn't mind an extra (mine is pretty worn, though still serviceable for now).

> The shelves are now put together, but the parts are still in boxes
> in a storage building. Someday soon Reggie and I will start moving
> them to their new home. (I'll post a photobucket picture's location
> of my new work digs sometimes in the fairly near future.)

"Someday soon", eh?
Looking forward to the pictures.

> How about a link to a supplier for those 60 watt bulbs, and an
> identifier for the product?
> TIA!

I'll see if I can find something on the base, but I don't recall seeing a manufacturer's name on there. It looks exactly like the 35/35 bulbs, same glass shape and everything.

> Good Riding!
> Jim

Back atcha, Jim.

Tim H

Phil Thomas

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Apr 13, 2012, 10:40:02 AM4/13/12
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> Did Phil send you both the plastic bar and the black round wear
> ring?

Roger that!

Wudsracer

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Apr 13, 2012, 10:41:13 AM4/13/12
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Thanks Tim.
You got to see the early stages of the new building, correct?
We built the second floor, and got the lights, stairs, and handrail
(complete with forklift lifting gate) installed.
Oil field work and "projects" keep diverting our time and efforts,
delaying the finished work.
(start of a long rambling post)
I needed a fork lift; not only for lifting heavy stuff up to the
second floor, and moving equipment on the yard, but eventually to lift
unused bikes (bike projects) to storage racks up on the shop wall
about 11' off the floor. (I don't want my parking garage too full to
get the working bikes out to ride.)
So... I got a "bargain" on an early '70s Datsun forklift, which
turned into a fairly long term restoration project.
Tip: Before undertaking such a project, be prepared to improvise a
bit. As an example, the braking material had come unbonded from the
shoes. Nissan wanted nearly $1k per wheel for new brake shoes. We
drilled the material and riveted it to the pads, just like we would
when rebuilding pumping unit brakes. Then, we found very similar wheel
cylinders at the auto parts store, and "unfroze" the adjusters. The
brakes work fine, now.
Then, when looking for new hose to feed the main hydraulic pump, I
found that Nissan no longer made any of the hoses. EEEK!
I was able to have all the high pressure hoses built at my local oil
field supply store, but the large diameter supply hose needed for the
main hydraulic pump was another issue. It had to be flexible enough
to make a 180 degree bend under the pump, and also had an "impossible"
inside diameter of 1 9/16".
Instead of having the hose adapters modified/machined to fit easily
available 1 1/2" hose, I tried all the hydraulic supply stores,
forklift repair shops, tractor repair shops, and logging repair shops
and suppliers within 80 miles of Smackover for a hose that would work.
(sometimes I am a dumbass.)
McMaster Carr was the only resource which offered hope. I found some
"flexible" hydraulic hose in inch and a half id that was available in
5' sections. ($65) It was not flexible to get it on the adapters.
I then found some more flexible "petroleum" hose at McMaster Carr,
which would also stand up to 29" vacuum. (it will be a supply hose for
the pump.) Another $65 order, for 5' of this hose, and we were in
business.
We aren't finished with it, but it is now a working 5,000# forklift
which will work outside on the equipment yard, as well as on
concrete/hard surfaces. I wish that I had gotten a fork lift a long
time ago; but looking back, I should have just spent a few thousand
more on a newer forklift.

Then, there's the 1976 Jeep CJ7 that I got for Deb for a song, and
is requiring a symphony to get functionally (not cosmetically)
correct to put in operation.
No more projects for me that are not motorcycle or oil field
related, for a while, at least. :-)

I can't get the http://graphicmx.com/ or
http://graphicmx.com/ggkit.shtml to come up. I had similar problems
with communications with Marsden when I was a shop owner. and threw
away his contact info in frustration.
After seeing your bike and looking at all the available graphics
kits that I could find on the net, I wish now that I still had that
info. I would appreciate anything that you could furnish to me in
that regard. I'll write him a letter if that is the only way I can
contact him.

The trails at White Rock for this year's Wudi Ride were the best
they've ever been. I wish you could have been there. (Did you see
jeb's ride report?)

It's Friday the 13th today. It's a work only day, except for the
trip to the Dr about my left shoulder. Screw it! I'm going to
TrainRobbers to ride tomorrow, and may stick around to do it again on
Sunday.

I was browsing the web site for Tasky's Metric Cycle yesterday. Jeff
had a new left over 2011 XC250 Six Days for only $6,999. It is sure
tempting.

Good Riding!
Jim

Wudsracer

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Apr 13, 2012, 10:42:47 AM4/13/12
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WTG Phil!

Jim

Mike

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Apr 14, 2012, 12:10:48 AM4/14/12
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Tim,

The bike looks great. Now go beat it back into submission!

--
Baxter

Wudsracer

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The http://graphicmx.com/ggkit.shtml web site is now back up.

Jim

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Tim H

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Apr 16, 2012, 3:10:17 PM4/16/12
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On Monday, April 9, 2012 9:38:16 AM UTC-7, Tim H wrote:

> It was a perfect northwest day, 60 degrees, damp tacky soil with a few
> puddles and mud spots still around, and the sweetest non-public
> single track you could ask for. The bike worked great.
> I sucked. After about an hour I started to remember how to ride, but
> by then I was physically about 3/4 spent. I held on for a couple more
> hours, but finally called it quits before I made any major mistakes
> and messed up my spiffy "new" bike.
> I'm supposed to race the first Enduro of the season next weekend, but
> I'm having second thoughts.

The uncertainty about racing led me to take Friday off and go riding with Scott at Belfair (site of Sunday's Sparkplug Enguro). We were treated to a spectacular Northwest spring day, blue skies and mid-60's, hadn't rained in days so the puddles had mostly soaked in, ground was damp but not sloppy (well, a little sloppy in a few spots, it IS western Washington). We rode a brisk pace, but not really hard. Scott was trying to get his timing back after almost 6 weeks off the bike, and I was trying to get everything back after over twice that long off. I started crashing early and often, going down twice in the first 2 miles. then I stepped up my game and tagged a tree with the bars, caromed off of another tree on the other side of the trail, then stuffed the front end of the bike into a nice solid 2' diameter Douglas Fir (yet a third tree). Though the plastic survived, my nice new front fender graphic was scraped off like last night's leftovers. A little while later I realized that my back fender had broken too somewhere along the line.
I was still toying with the idea of just riding the race to salvage some points, but as we were heading back towards the truck after about 37 miles, I had the stupidest crash imaginable (hit a baby head rock laying loose all by itself in the middle of a 30 foot wide section of pool table smooth quad trail, total goon move), the bike went down and I speared myself in the sternum with the end of the bars. This resulted in 1) a bent set of ProTapers, and 2) a rib that has temporarily ended it's attachment to the above-mentioned sternum. That kind of hurts, but not nearly as bad as the last time I busted my ribs.
Anyway, even though I'm told I could race without risking further injury, I didn't. It was a good thing. I wouldn't have made it even without the rib injury.
The Sparkplug Enduro is a notoriously tough event. They run it on tight, tough trails and set pretty ambitious speed averages. This year's event ran just about 85 actual ground miles. I ran an Emergency check at mile 53, which was about 6 miles before the end of the short course (and a gas available). Our check was at the end of a long (7.5+ miles) test section through the tightest, steepest stuff they had to throw at the riders. I'd estimate that fully 1/3 of the long course riders that came to us were asking for directions back to the start so they could quit, and ptactically every short course rider did as well. Fortunately for the short course guys, the shortest way back was for them to finish the race, and we talked quite a few into just riding it out. Some were probably pretty happy we did, because most of the short course classes were won by triple digit scores, and many of those guys did much better in class than they thought they would.
Scott started his second AA season fairly well, for being behind from the get-go because of his hand. He hit a stump less than 2 miles from the start and endoed, stuffing his right hand (same one he broke) into the barkbuster in the process. He tore up his birdy finger and jacked the hand up some (it's swollen today, but everything seems to work). He got back on a rode, and found that it worked OK (hurt when braking, though). He had a good ride, avoided some trouble others got into when they missed a course arrow AND wrong way marker, then got back onto another marked section of the course before figuring out their mistake, rode pretty solid but not spectacularly to a 5th place (both in the AA class and overall). Missed 4th overall by 6 seconds. Not quite the result he wanted (he really wanted to overall this one, and might have if he'd been better prepared). Our buddy Brady missed 2nd overall by 5 seconds, after crashing hard enough early in the race that he doesn't remember crashing, just realized he was riding at Belfair and had his enduro instruments on so it must be the Sparkplug. He was bumming on the 5 second thing.
Anyway, Scott gets OK points out of the race. The winner of the AA class races when he wants to and doesn't carry a competition license, so isn't in the points race, and one of the 2 guys that beat Scott last season finished dead last in the class after gettin g lost and some other problems. I got worker points for the event, so I don't have to use up my throw away score for this event in case I really suck at some future enduro.
The Shelton Valley Enduro is in 3 weeks. Scott and I both did really well there last year (Scott won AA, 2nd overall, I won Super Senior and overalled the short course), and it's one of the jewels of the northwest offroad scene, so we can't wait. I'm hitting the exercise bike in the meantime to try and have SOMETHING for the race.

Tim H

Tim H

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Apr 16, 2012, 4:34:51 PM4/16/12
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Parts arrived with Saturday's mail.
Thanks, Phil!

Tim H
Who da birthday boy?

Wudsracer

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Apr 16, 2012, 6:18:35 PM4/16/12
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Tim,
Thanks for the most excellent ride report!

You bought extra fenders in the closeout sale, right???
Will Marsden sell individual graphics pieces?

As I've said to anyone who would listen, most often with a smile on
my face:
The first tree knocks you off balance..
The second tree knocks you off course.
The third tree most always takes you out.

Thanks for proving (and emphasizing) my point.

Congratulations to Scott for his finish. Congratulations to you for
your discretionary decision. Good luck and FUN on your upcoming
race!

Good Riding!
Jim

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Mike S.

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Apr 16, 2012, 10:33:39 PM4/16/12
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Tim H reports:

> I had the stupidest crash imaginable (hit a baby head rock laying loose
> all by itself in the middle of a 30 foot wide section of pool >table
> smooth quad trail, total goon move), the bike went down and I speared
> myself in the sternum with the end of the bars. This >resulted in 1) a
> bent set of ProTapers, and 2) a rib that has temporarily ended it's
> attachment to the above-mentioned sternum.

> Scott started his second AA season fairly well, for being behind from the
> get-go because of his hand. He hit a stump less than 2 miles >from the
> start and endoed, stuffing his right hand (same one he broke) into the
> barkbuster in the process. He tore up his birdy finger >and jacked the
> hand up some (it's swollen today, but everything seems to work). He got
> back on a rode, and found that it worked OK (hurt when braking, though).

Youse guys are animals.

I like that a lot.

Thanks for the report.

Tim H

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Apr 16, 2012, 10:54:50 PM4/16/12
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On Monday, April 16, 2012 3:18:35 PM UTC-7, Wudsracer wrote:
> Tim,
> Thanks for the most excellent ride report!

You're welcome.

> You bought extra fenders in the closeout sale, right???

Apparently not enough! I have to figure out what broke it. I made a subfender out of the old rear fender, and it might be stiffening up the fender too much where it broke.

> Will Marsden sell individual graphics pieces?

I have no idea, and I'm not sure I care. My ardor for expensive stickers has cooled somewhat.

> As I've said to anyone who would listen, most often with a smile on
> my face:
> The first tree knocks you off balance..
> The second tree knocks you off course.
> The third tree most always takes you out.
>
> Thanks for proving (and emphasizing) my point.

Long since proven and emphasized WAY too much by a full rack of broken right ribs and a collapsed lung from the impact (not punctured).
I have a real love/hate relationship with trees.

> Congratulations to Scott for his finish. Congratulations to you for
> your discretionary decision. Good luck and FUN on your upcoming
> race!

Thank you, I knew you'd understand.

> Good Riding!

Isn't it all?

Tim H

dfh...@optonline.net

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Apr 17, 2012, 7:46:59 AM4/17/12
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Thanks for the ride and race report! Go Team H!

Phil Thomas

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Apr 17, 2012, 10:14:38 AM4/17/12
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>Parts arrived with Saturday's mail.
Thanks, Phil!<

No prob brother.

>Brady missed 2nd overall by 5 seconds, after crashing hard enough early in the race that he doesn't remember crashing, just realized he was riding at Belfair and had his enduro instruments on so it must be the Sparkplug.<

Classic.

IdaSpode

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Apr 17, 2012, 11:52:40 AM4/17/12
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim H <tntha...@msn.com>
wrote:

>The Shelton Valley Enduro is in 3 weeks. Scott and I both did really well there last year
>(Scott won AA, 2nd overall, I won Super Senior and overalled the short course), and it's
>one of the jewels of the northwest offroad scene, so we can't wait.

>I'm hitting the exercise bike in the meantime to try and have SOMETHING for the race.

So you are entering the Senior Exercise Bike Class?

I'm old enough to enter the Master's EBC, but I'd still get my ass
handed to me...

IdaTeamGeritol

Tim H

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Apr 17, 2012, 2:41:07 PM4/17/12
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On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:52:40 AM UTC-7, IdaSpode wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim H <tntha...@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >The Shelton Valley Enduro is in 3 weeks. Scott and I both did really well there last year
> >(Scott won AA, 2nd overall, I won Super Senior and overalled the short course), and it's
> >one of the jewels of the northwest offroad scene, so we can't wait.
>
> >I'm hitting the exercise bike in the meantime to try and have SOMETHING for the race.
>
> So you are entering the Senior Exercise Bike Class?

Because I'm too stubborn to give up the idea that I should be riding the entire course in the Enduro Series, I keep signing up as a Senior A (40+), because that's the oldest age class that rides the long course. Truthfully, I'd be more competitive in the Open A class, because Senior A is absolutely stacked with fast guys that really know enduros. I rode Super Senior (50+) last season to rehab my knee, but even though I know that was a good decision, I felt like a slacker after every finish knowing there was still more good marked trail out there.

> I'm old enough to enter the Master's EBC, but I'd still get my ass
> handed to me...

At least you wouldn't have to go looking for it if they hand it to you.

Tim H

JayC

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Apr 17, 2012, 4:40:59 PM4/17/12
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Heh-heh. Welcome to my nightmare. Busted plastic is childs play, but
a bent set of Protapers, eh? That's not easy. Even I haven't done
that (XR400 still on its first pair since '98). Good to hear about an
old man just about killing himself pretending he is 10 years younger
while stubbornly refusing to listen to anyone who tells him
different. Sounds strangely familiar...

JayC

Tim H

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Apr 18, 2012, 12:33:40 AM4/18/12
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On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:40:59 PM UTC-7, JayC wrote:
> Heh-heh. Welcome to my nightmare. Busted plastic is childs play, but
> a bent set of Protapers, eh? That's not easy. Even I haven't done
> that (XR400 still on its first pair since '98).

It's a first for me, too. Having tried it, I don't recommend it.

> Good to hear about an
> old man just about killing himself pretending he is 10 years younger
> while stubbornly refusing to listen to anyone who tells him
> different. Sounds strangely familiar...

Isn't that a movie or something?
Sounds like a compelling story.

Tim H

Mike

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Apr 19, 2012, 12:07:55 AM4/19/12
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That's why I rode open A. Maybe again, one day.

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Baxter
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