I would appreciate your input.
Thanks much,
Chi
I don't know what is planned new for 2001, but I am quite happy with
how my '98 380 has performed.
If you are sensitive to vibration, the bike vibrates. It vibrated jeb
right onto a 250 as a matter of fact. Other than minor kickstarter
difficulties - I havn't heard of any in the newer ones - I don't know
of any chronic problems. It is an open class bike, and a bit of a
handful in tight quarters, but much better than other big bores.
It is a bit "euro" in it's ergonomics (sp?). Power wise, it will
pretty much hold its own against a CR500 or a KX500 - it's down about
2 bhp, and has a little narrower powerband. It will turn circles
around either one. It will smoke a YZ400, but I haven't had a chance
to get on the new 426, so I can't compare it with the new Yammi
It has some high speed twitchiness and wants to headshake - a steering
damper is strongly recommended if you desert race or indulge in other
high speed stupidity. The earlier ones had a tendecy to stall at slow
speeds, I think small porting changes in the newer ones have corrected
most of that. I put a flywheel weight on mine to combat this, which
may be overkill since the bike actually has a good amount of flywheel.
The hydraulic clutch on the newer bikes gets rave reviews.
The seat is narrow and hard. Most folks bitch about the seat. It
really is a very good seat if you are moving along, but for long
sit-down putts it gets painful real fast.
There isn't quite as much aftermarked stuff around, partly becuse you
don't need as much. You really didn't want the aftermarket graphics
anyway,since the stock ones are damn near indestructable. For my
taste, the bike needs a steering damper, skid plate, pipe guard and a
shark fin. If you were getting an older one, I'd suggest fork boots,
but the newer forks are USD.
The stock bars are high quality aluminum. A lot of people replace them
with ProTapers (or TAG or other oversize) If you do that, you will
need a either a different top clamp, or the universal adaptors. I
finally bent the stockers, and replaced them with conventional
Renthals.
The oil level screw will strip if you look at it hard. There is a
current thread on this. The best fix is to hammer in a wooden golf
tee. It has a tendicy to steam in very slow difficult terrain. This
is good for the sinuses. See vlj's 5MOH pics.
KTM parts can be expensive. The trick is not to have to buy them.
HTH
Jim Hall
380 EXC (FOR SALE!) and others
520 EXC any day now
Turning (even more) Money into Noise
The 380 engine is a work of art. Its like a KDX 220 off-idle, but it
has top end like McGrath's works YZ250 (well at least the SX does).
You can lug it, shreak it, short shift it, clutch it, whatever....
> Whats new for 2001, what are the flaws of previous years, what kind of
> mods are available to customize the bike to my liking.
You can do anything to the KTM that you want. They now include KTM in
the grouping of larger bike companies. Instead of the "Big Four" its
now the "Big Five". You can get anything you want for it..
- Nealio
###################################################
##---------------- Aaron K. Neal ----------------##
## ----- Software Engineer - Boise, Idaho ------ ##
## -- 1999 KTM 380 SX ** KTM: Known To Mangle -- ##
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Quirks: Bit of head shake, touch of vibration (not as a bad as a 620!), a
thirst for Loctite and the oil level bolt strips easily.
I can't confirm what the 2001 models may have, but rumour has it that
they're up for a new PDS shock, clear tank and some minor cosmetic changes.
Talk to other KTM owners on the forum at www.ktm-racetech.com if you want
more info.
Cheers,
Jeff
<chi...@pop.tcsn.uswest.net> wrote in message
news:3920BF19...@pop.tcsn.uswest.net...
> I am considering a 2001 KTM 380 EXC as a potential bike purchase next
> year when I decide to officially retire my current ride.
> I like what I see but since I am ignorant of the KTM bikes and their
> quirks and habits.
> Are there a few websites that discuss what I should expect (both good
> and bad) as per the KTM 380.
> Whats new for 2001, what are the flaws of previous years, what kind of
> mods are available to customize the bike to my liking.
"KTMNealio" <ktmn...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8fqheu$v4f$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
> The 380 engine is a work of art. Its like a KDX 220 off-idle, but it
> has top end like McGrath's works YZ250 (well at least the SX does).
> You can lug it, shreak it, short shift it, clutch it, whatever....
>
> > Whats new for 2001, what are the flaws of previous years, what kind of
> > mods are available to customize the bike to my liking.
>
>Blah, blah, blah...... KTM's suck the big nub.
Bet you wish you had a big nub.......
>
>"KTMNealio" <ktmn...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>> The 380 engine is a work of art. Its like a KDX 220 off-idle, but it
>> has top end like McGrath's works YZ250 (well at least the SX does).
>> You can lug it, shreak it, short shift it, clutch it, whatever....
>> - Nealio
David Y2KTM2E
Email: djo...@cyberhighway.net
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~djones/
Home of the "The Very Unofficial RMD Page"
KTMNealio wrote:
>
> In article <3920BF19...@pop.tcsn.uswest.net>,
> chi...@uswest.net wrote:
> > I am considering a 2001 KTM 380 EXC as a potential bike purchase next
>
> The 380 engine is a work of art. Its like a KDX 220 off-idle, but it
> has top end like McGrath's works YZ250 (well at least the SX does).
> You can lug it, shreak it, short shift it, clutch it, whatever....
>
"mark crotts" <mcr...@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:392171...@concentric.net...
All in all an excellent bike, bottom is a little soft compared to a
500, vibration is somewhere between a 250 and 500, and handling is more
like a 250. Mid is very strong but doesn't have much overrev - shift
early and let the midrange work. Roomy ergos, first rate stock parts
(bars, chain, cable adjusters, etc.). Suspension takes a while to
break in, but is great except for a little too much compression damping
on square edged bumps. Handling is excellent for an open bike,
provided the rear sag is set to 95mm, otherwise the front end pushes
out while seated. It is prone to a little headshake, if you do much
high speed stuff get a Scotts damper. Stone reliable, no problems with
mine, a great bike.
--
Caribou 78 250 MC-5,94 550 MX/C,95 300 MX/C,98 380 MX/C, L3410HST
Lynn 96 XR-100, 2000 TTR125L
>On Mon, 15 May 2000 20:23:05 -0700, chi...@pop.tcsn.uswest.net wrote:
>
>>I am considering a 2001 KTM 380 EXC as a potential bike purchase next
>>year when I decide to officially retire my current ride.
>>I like what I see but since I am ignorant of the KTM bikes and their
>>quirks and habits.
>>Are there a few websites that discuss what I should expect (both good
>>and bad) as per the KTM 380.
http://Dirtrider.net , http://www.extremeatv.com/ and
http://www.extremeatv.com/ all have KTM forums.
>>Whats new for 2001, what are the flaws of previous years, what kind of
>>mods are available to customize the bike to my liking.
>>ETC. ETC. ETC.
>
>If you are sensitive to vibration, the bike vibrates. It vibrated jeb
>right onto a 250 as a matter of fact. Other than minor kickstarter
>difficulties - I havn't heard of any in the newer ones - I don't know
>of any chronic problems. It is an open class bike, and a bit of a
>handful in tight quarters, but much better than other big bores.
And I loved that 98 380 MXC, too. If I didn't race or didn't race in tight
woods, I'd still own it. Way fun power. Just a bit too much vibration for me
and I had a heck of a problem with hand numbness. I had a steering damper on
mine so I never noticed the headshake problem.
Some good info from Jim. Just a few other notes. I had the water pump seal go
out and I had some fork problems which I think I caused. In 99, they started
drilling a decompression hole in the cylinder to make them easier to start and
vibrate less. I'm not sure of changes for 2001, either.
What kind of riding do plan to do with the bike? What kind of terrain?
jeb - John Brunsgaard
je...@worldnet.nospam.att.net
remove nospam to email
I'm sorry, that post was for people who don't pull green chain or work
in a Circle K.
"Motocrotts, the slushy machine is down!! Code red!!"
###################################################
##---------------- Aaron K. Neal ----------------##
## ----- Software Engineer - Boise, Idaho ------ ##
## -- 1999 KTM 380 SX ** KTM: Known To Mangle -- ##
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Nealio's in your wife's poon. Give me call and I will tell ya how it
is. You might need to re-sleeve her after this last weekend however...
-Nealio
Well we live in Trailers in Idaho but at least we know how to spell.
Its "censor" you retard! You shouldn't have spent all your money on
cartons of Kool menthols and saved some for a fuckin dictionary...
hhaha dipshit...
- Nealio
My wife doesn't have a "poon"......... yet Nealio is still a "poon".
<sigh>
"KTMNealio" <ktmn...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8fs8ss$tlb$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <8frsek$nff$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>,
> "David Levy" <dl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, ........ Nealio's a poon.
>
> Nealio's in your wife's poon. Give me call and I will tell ya how it
> is. You might need to re-sleeve her after this last weekend however...
>
> -Nealio
>
JR XR600
To "testify" was based on men in the Roman court swearing
to a statement made by swearing on their testicles.
"KTMNealio" <ktmn...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8fsajd$vog$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <3921a4de$0$73...@news.execpc.com>,
> Brian McGarry <sca...@execpc.com> wrote:
> > Anybody that lives in Idaho and rides KTMs, are Poons.
> > Let's see if you can censure this, Jones
>
> Well we live in Trailers in Idaho but at least we know how to spell.
> Its "censor" you retard! You shouldn't have spent all your money on
> cartons of Kool menthols and saved some for a fuckin dictionary...
> hhaha dipshit...
>
> - Nealio
>
> referring to a tampon. Therefore, saying, "Yeah, ........ Nealio's a
poon."
> is more like saying Nealio is a "tampon head". Calling Nealio a vagina
head
> isn't real funny. Note that poon is a noun and not a verb. You cannot
poon
I'm curious... can "poon" also be an adjective? For example, used in a
sentence such as, "Nealio has poon breath."
Jay
No. No poon breath. Only people can be a poon.
"Jay C" <stu...@tp.net> wrote in message
news:pKiU4.39828$sf6.6...@news-west.usenetserver.com...
You're in the lead, so far this week by my count.
I don't think you got what it takes, punk, to keep it up. It's only
tuesday.
I'm a tampon head? I think you hurt my feelings this time... I stick
my face in pussy sometimes, but never when its bloody....
>
> My wife doesn't have a "poon".
Yeah, she told me she was going to have that operation. I hope she
doing well getting accustomed to the new parts. You are a good man to
stick with her..
The term "poon" (everwhere except in the South) means pussy, box, clam,
gash, snatch, hatchet wound, love pocket, tuna taco, hair pie, etc..
I'm not as old as Uwe but it still holds similar meaning in the NW..
"Pooney"?
"Poonite"?
"Poontillating"?
I don't know Dave, the adjective thing has some merit.....
Mark
Nealio's lame ass remarks could be "poonish"? or
Nealio looks like George Pooney? or
Nealio comes from the land of Poonites? or
Nealio's comments are Poontillating?
Maybe something like that?
"MVCronk" <mcr...@reid-crowther.com> wrote in message
news:rbk3is0rumhsuetkd...@4ax.com...
>In article <3921a4de$0$73...@news.execpc.com>,
> Brian McGarry <sca...@execpc.com> wrote:
>> Anybody that lives in Idaho and rides KTMs, are Poons.
>> Let's see if you can censure this, Jones
"censure" - criticize severely
Maybe not the intended meaning of the statement but technically it
works.
This one got a way on you.
Mark
>
>Well we live in Trailers in Idaho but at least we know how to spell.
>Its "censor" you retard! You shouldn't have spent all your money on
>cartons of Kool menthols and saved some for a fuckin dictionary...
>hhaha dipshit...
>
Anyway, one of the reply's ask for what type of riding I will be doing:
I will be retiring my 85' CR-500 for either a new CR-500 or a KTM 380.
Most of the riding will be recreational enduro type in the Nat. Forest/BLM
land of Arizona.
1) The deciding factors will be comfort during riding with feet on pegs,
ass on saddle and when feet and ass are above my head.(CR wins both of
these)
2) Ease of starting (CR loses on this one).
3) Big Tank for lots-o-riding (big being 3+ gallons, KTM wins this one ).
4) Ease of maintainence (dunno which wins/loses).
5) Ability to propel my 270+ lbs. lard ass in the air as high as I wanna
go.. CR usually takes me farther than I wanna go..but that is not a bad
thang. Have not ridden a KTM yet.
etc. etc. etc.
chi...@pop.tcsn.uswest.net wrote:
> I am considering a 2001 KTM 380 EXC as a potential bike purchase next
> year when I decide to officially retire my current ride.
> I like what I see but since I am ignorant of the KTM bikes and their
> quirks and habits.
> Are there a few websites that discuss what I should expect (both good
> and bad) as per the KTM 380.
> Whats new for 2001, what are the flaws of previous years, what kind of
> mods are available to customize the bike to my liking.
> ETC. ETC. ETC.
>
Mark
Studing under the master AOTW
> 'm not as old as Uwe but it still holds similar meaning in the NW..
Doesn't anyone know that Ted Nugent song?
"Wam Bam sweet poontang..." or something.
Uwe Hale - 99 GasGas EC200, 89 YZ250WR
http://www.rrdr.org
http://www.smackovermotorsports.com
> Anyway, one of the reply's ask for what type of riding I will be doing:
> I will be retiring my 85' CR-500 for either a new CR-500 or a KTM 380.
> Most of the riding will be recreational enduro type in the Nat. Forest/BLM
> land of Arizona.
If that means open spaces and desert, it'll be a great bike.
>Anybody that lives in Idaho and rides KTMs, are Poons.
>Let's see if you can censure this, Jones
Sorry if I am mistaken, (been many moon since highschool, Kemosabi)
but shouldn't this read:
Anyone that lives in Idaho and rides a KTM, is a Poon.
or
All people who live in Idaho and ride KTMs, are Poons.
>
>David Levy wrote:
>
>> Yeah, ........ Nealio's a poon.
Mr. Levy, being that you hail from Louisiana, I'd consider it foolish
for you to cast stones. Yes, it is my birth state but my parents were
wise enough not to stay there long.
Louisiana: Anything that isn't under water, should be.........
BTW, David, concerning your photo on my Spode Photo page
(http://www.cyberhighway.net/~djones/spode2.htm), would you mind
sending me another photo where you are actually standing up?
>KTMNealio <ktmn...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> Brian McGarry <sca...@execpc.com> wrote:
>>> Anybody that lives in Idaho and rides KTMs, are Poons.
>>> Let's see if you can censure this, Jones
>
>"censure" - criticize severely
>
>Maybe not the intended meaning of the statement but technically it
>works.
Well, as long as we are going to go technical.....
>This one got a way on you.
What exactly is a "way"? Or did you mean to say "away"?
>Mark
>>Well we live in Trailers in Idaho but at least we know how to spell.
Trailer? Maybe for some of you wealthy folks with high tech
employment. I'm still living in my '66 Ford station wagon and hoping I
can soon move up to a blue poly tarp lean-to.
>>Its "censor" you retard! You shouldn't have spent all your money on
>>cartons of Kool menthols and saved some for a fuckin dictionary...
>>hhaha dipshit...
>>
>> - Nealio
David Y2KTM2E
You've got it all wrong, ya poon. Last time I was over, your wife had
a poon. What are you talking about? Did she get one of those
operations?
Poon is puxxy
Frickin poon..
--
'00 KX250 soon
Thanks to Clearbrook Motorsports, Lordco Auto Parts, Works Connection, Boyesen, Twin Air.
What's the name of a man with no arms and no legs
laying next to a hole in the ground?.................Phil
"David Jones" <djo...@cyberhighway.net> wrote in message
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><snip>
"MVCronk" <mcr...@reid-crowther.com> wrote in message
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><snip>
BTW, that's about enough about my wife! She doesn't have anything to do
with you clowns. One boyfriend is more than enough for her.
"Cam Mitchell" <cmit...@attcanada.net> wrote in message
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><snip>
<chi...@pop.tcsn.uswest.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks much for the custructive criticisms and accolades on the KTM. I
> especially appreciate the extra added value of learning about the history
> of POONS and who amongst the list are considered POONS etc.
>
> Anyway, one of the reply's ask for what type of riding I will be doing:
><snip>
>Hmmmm...... Isn't everything *supposed* to be under water?
>
>"David Jones" <djo...@cyberhighway.net> wrote in message
>> Louisiana: Anything that isn't under water, should be.........
>>
>> BTW, David, concerning your photo on my Spode Photo page
>> (http://www.cyberhighway.net/~djones/spode2.htm), would you mind
>> sending me another photo where you are actually standing up?
Oops, sorry, you *are* standing up, you are just knee deep in swamp,
and that's considered dry land down there........
I've never seen it rain as hard as I've seen in Louisiana, and I've
lived in Florida, the land of Liquid Sunshine.
(scroll to the bottom to get the answer)
>On Wed, 17 May 2000 00:22:49 -0600, David Jones <djo...@cyberhighway.net> wrote:
>
>>>Well we live in Trailers in Idaho but at least we know how to spell.
>
>Trailer? Maybe for some of you wealthy folks with high tech
>employment. I'm still living in my '66 Ford station wagon and hoping I
>can soon move up to a blue poly tarp lean-to.
>
Someone is going to lose the trailer. <G>
Jim Cook / Wudsracer
Gas Gas EC 250 - Senior B
Smackover Motor Sports
SMS Racing/Team LAGNAF
www.smackovermotorsports.com
dirt...@arkansas.net - 870-725-3966
Senior B/Spodely (Half Fast) Trail Rider
BJEC SERA AHSCS TSCEC AMA/Life#267612
This thread degenerated incredibly quickly. What is this,
rec.motorcycles??
>
> Anyway, one of the reply's ask for what type of riding I will be
doing:
> I will be retiring my 85' CR-500 for either a new CR-500 or a KTM 380.
> Most of the riding will be recreational enduro type in the Nat.
Forest/BLM
> land of Arizona.
> 1) The deciding factors will be comfort during riding with feet on
pegs,
> ass on saddle and when feet and ass are above my head.(CR wins both of
> these)
> 2) Ease of starting (CR loses on this one).
New CRs are supposed to be much easier to start then the '85 vintage.
> 3) Big Tank for lots-o-riding (big being 3+ gallons, KTM wins this one
).
Hands down.
> 4) Ease of maintainence (dunno which wins/loses).
CR. Changing plugs in a KTM is a bitch. The KTM also has a power valve
that needs service.
> 5) Ability to propel my 270+ lbs. lard ass in the air as high as I
wanna
> go.. CR usually takes me farther than I wanna go..but that is not a
bad
> thang. Have not ridden a KTM yet.
> etc. etc. etc.
CR has more power, definitely.
6) Comfort.
The seat on the KTM probably loses this one. My '96 360 EXC had the
most bricklike seat I've ever had the displeasure to sit on for extended
rides.
7) Reliability.
There isn't anything like Honda reliability and fit and finish. My 360
was the worst bike I've ever owned. A real maintenance nightmare.
Maybe the new ones are better. Nealio sure does think so, but he's a
poon ;).
--
Dennis Kennedy
kennedy_dennis at hotmail dot com
kennedy at NOSPAMrogueNOSPAMwave dot com
'78 GL1000, '86 GL1200A, '96 VFR750, '98 XR400
I appreciate the attempted flame, but to appear intelligent you will
have to replace all those missing teeth and wear something besides a
wife beater with mustard stains on it..
- Nealio (trying for the David Levy award)
###################################################
##---------------- Aaron K. Neal ----------------##
## ----- Software Engineer - Boise, Idaho ------ ##
## -- 1999 KTM 380 SX ** KTM: Known To Mangle -- ##
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Dammit Dennis, the list of those who flame Nealio is growing at an
exponential rate! Knock it off!!! ;-)
Read the post about the guy who wants to buy a 360. I told him its a
piece of crap and to talk to you bout it....
- Nealio
>
> Doesn't anyone know that Ted Nugent song?
>
> "Wam Bam sweet poontang..." or something.
>
Wang Dang Sweet Poontang, from Cat Scratch Fever. Back when Ted was doing
something useful with his life...
Chris
99WR400F
--
Wang, dang .......
Wes
>> 4) Ease of maintainence (dunno which wins/loses).
>CR. Changing plugs in a KTM is a bitch. The KTM also has a power valve
>that needs service.
Dennis, you bought KTM too early, I think they listened to your
complaints. The guys who I ride with who have the pre '98 can barely
reach the choke without getting off the bike. My 99/00 was/is very
easy to access the plug. They even give you a multi-wrench that has
the oh-so-perfect shape.
>
>> 5) Ability to propel my 270+ lbs. lard ass in the air as high as I
>wanna
>> go.. CR usually takes me farther than I wanna go..but that is not a
>bad
>> thang. Have not ridden a KTM yet.
>> etc. etc. etc.
>CR has more power, definitely.
I have ridden both a 360 and a '99 380E, not even close in comparison.
The 360 felt like a beefy 250, the 380 was a freakin' rocket.
>6) Comfort.
>The seat on the KTM probably loses this one. My '96 360 EXC had the
>most bricklike seat I've ever had the displeasure to sit on for extended
>rides.
I mostly hear them compared to a wooden 2x4, but they have gone from
black walnut to yellow pine, much softer. <g>
Ted
David Jones <djo...@cyberhighway.net> wrote in message
news:ff06iscn4mkghkom5...@4ax.com...
>>6) Comfort.
>>The seat on the KTM probably loses this one. My '96 360 EXC had the
>>most bricklike seat I've ever had the displeasure to sit on for extended
>>rides.
>
>I mostly hear them compared to a wooden 2x4, but they have gone from
>black walnut to yellow pine, much softer. <g>
I dunno, my buddies 96 YZ-250 seat was WAY harder on the ass than my 380's
seat.
Michael Hetrick (OldFart)
'00 YZ 426F
'00 Ducati Monster
'73 Kawasaki H1
> Wang Dang Sweet Poontang, from Cat Scratch Fever.
That's it. I was starting to think I just imagined it.
>Thanks much for the custructive criticisms and accolades on the KTM. I
>especially appreciate the extra added value of learning about the history
>of POONS and who amongst the list are considered POONS etc.
>
>Anyway, one of the reply's ask for what type of riding I will be doing:
>I will be retiring my 85' CR-500 for either a new CR-500 or a KTM 380.
>Most of the riding will be recreational enduro type in the Nat. Forest/BLM
>land of Arizona.
If you are at all interested in a decent used one at (I think) a very
decent price, I have a '98 380EXC in Flagstaff I need to sell. You are
at least welcome to ride it to see if you like it - even if you want a
new one.
Got the 520 last night, whoo-hoo!!
E-mail me if interested.
Jim Hall
380 EXC (FOR SALE!) and others
520 EXC any day now
Turning (even more) Money into Noise
>Got the 520 last night, whoo-hoo!!
Whoo Hoo is right! When's the break in ride, Jim?
>E-mail me if interested.
I'll take the 520, please. When can you ship it for a test ride? ;-)
jeb - John Brunsgaard
je...@worldnet.nospam.att.net
remove nospam to email
>
>Whoo Hoo is right! When's the break in ride, Jim?
Rode it tonight. Nice bike. I posted my first impressions in a new
thread.
Jim Hall
380 EXC (FOR SALE!)
520 EXC
Why Ping when you can Thunder...
Turning Money into Noise