Tips needed for mixing fuel
Brett
How accurate do you need to be when mixing fuel? My KDX needs 32:1 I can
accurately measure the oil in a glass jug, but it's harder to measure out
the gas. I use a 10 liter Jerry can, but I think it holds more than 10
liters if you fill it right up to the nozzle. Am I being too fussy? Does
anyone have a good way of mixing 2-stroke fuel?
Cheers,
Brett
'00 KDX200
dirt dejavu
Brett wrote:
> Hi!
> How accurate do you need to be when mixing fuel? My KDX needs 32:1
> Am I being too fussy?
> anyone have a good way of mixing 2-stroke fuel?
> Cheers,
The way we used to do it was for each five gallon container.
How much gas do you want in this can?
Use the approximate amount of oil and add it to the bottom of the can.
Add the amount of gas figured for. Close the top and swish it around twice.
In most cases there will be no difference in the exact ratio as long as you
are within a 15% tolerance of the mixture you have found to work.
This works if you have to fill a still partially full container.
Just don't let the gas get too old.
Used to keep from forgetting to add oil by adding, then looking inside the
can before any fuel went in a 2S container.
Never made the mistake and don't intend to!
I have seen friends who have. He-- of a way to grind a motor.
DD XT350
Anssi Lehtinen
> How accurate do you need to be when mixing fuel? My KDX needs 32:1 I can
> accurately measure the oil in a glass jug, but it's harder to measure out
> the gas. I use a 10 liter Jerry can, but I think it holds more than 10
> liters if you fill it right up to the nozzle. Am I being too fussy? Does
> anyone have a good way of mixing 2-stroke fuel?
I just look at the pump at the gas station to get 19.5 liters in the
can, then pour in 5 deciliters (measured from the scale at the side of
the bottle) of oil.
I don't think it's that important to be extremely accurate unless you
always jet your bike for like any 5 degrees change in temperature or
small changes in humidity and want to extract the last hp of power,
always.
--
Anssi
Dudley Cornman
> Hi!
>
> How accurate do you need to be when mixing fuel? My KDX needs 32:1 I can
> accurately measure the oil in a glass jug, but it's harder to measure out
> the gas. I use a 10 liter Jerry can, but I think it holds more than 10
> liters if you fill it right up to the nozzle. Am I being too fussy? Does
> anyone have a good way of mixing 2-stroke fuel?
I use the numbers on the gas pump... they are pretty accurate. When it
says 5 gallons (what I need to mix up one bottle of the pre-mix I use),
I stop pumping.
dsc - acssysdsc
Peter Patton
to fill his bike up while on the trailer at the gas station and then add a
'squirt' or two of oil. He never had problems either.
Peter
Brett wrote:
> Hi!
>
> How accurate do you need to be when mixing fuel? My KDX needs 32:1 I can
> accurately measure the oil in a glass jug, but it's harder to measure out
> the gas. I use a 10 liter Jerry can, but I think it holds more than 10
> liters if you fill it right up to the nozzle. Am I being too fussy? Does
> anyone have a good way of mixing 2-stroke fuel?
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
> '00 KDX200
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Eric Schaumburg
easy way of putting the correct ration of gas to oil. It has different
settings for 10:1 up to probably 50 or 60:1. It is so easy, even younger
kids can accuratly measure the oil if told how to.
"Brett" <bj...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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wink
go to your local bike shop (wherever you purchase your oil and tell them you
want a 'Ratio-Rite". Its a graduated container which has pints, ounces and
cc's on one side and a scale on the other showing the level of oil for
varying ratios i.e. 40-1, 50-1 etc,per 1,1.5,2 or 2.5 galon the other.Its
the most foolproof thing I've found for doing pre-mix.
Guessing or getting close may be ok for the weedeater or yard blower but
wont do when it comes to your bike.
32-1 is a pretty rich mixture, most of todays 2-stroke cycle oils are
designed to run at 40,50 or even 100-1.
Too much oil in the mix is as bad as not enough.
"Brett" <bj...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:01bfa43a$635163c0$81386ccb@brett-johnston...
> Hi!
>
> How accurate do you need to be when mixing fuel? My KDX needs 32:1 I can
> accurately measure the oil in a glass jug, but it's harder to measure out
> the gas. I use a 10 liter Jerry can, but I think it holds more than 10
> liters if you fill it right up to the nozzle. Am I being too fussy? Does
> anyone have a good way of mixing 2-stroke fuel?
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
> '00 KDX200
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|> My friend got me a little cup called a Ratio Rite, it is by far the most
|> easy way of putting the correct ration of gas to oil. It has different
|> settings for 10:1 up to probably 50 or 60:1. It is so easy, even younger
|> kids can accuratly measure the oil if told how to.
|>
|>
|>
|> news:01bfa43a$635163c0$81386ccb@brett-johnston...
|> > Hi!
|> >
|> > How accurate do you need to be when mixing fuel? My KDX needs 32:1 I can
|> > accurately measure the oil in a glass jug, but it's harder to measure out
|> > the gas. I use a 10 liter Jerry can, but I think it holds more than 10
|> > liters if you fill it right up to the nozzle. Am I being too fussy? Does
|> > anyone have a good way of mixing 2-stroke fuel?
|> >
|> > Cheers,
|> > Brett
|> > '00 KDX200
--
Don't know if they're still available, but there's a jug with graduations for
fuel on one side, and oil on a small compartment on the other side. It's
called an "accu-mix" if I remember right (I should, there's one in my shed).
It's really nice if you're paranoid about letting premix sit around to go
stale, because you can mix as much or as little as you need. Full capacity,
"10" on the fuel level, is about 1-1/2 gallons. Of course, it's a complete
waste of time if you regularly go through 4-5 gallons of gas each weekend.
Take the time to clean up the flashing on the faces of the spouts before using
it, or you'll get sprayed when you shake it around to mix it.
Wes
Motophile365
over the house. They work great for measuring and stay clean with the top on. I
think it also aggrivated the wife and that added enjoyment.
best solution go 4-stroke and pull up to the pump and fill - It is such a cool
perk.
Motophile365
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Snow and Dirt BB
Dudley Cornman
> My friend got me a little cup called a Ratio Rite, it is by far the most
> easy way of putting the correct ration of gas to oil. It has different
> settings for 10:1 up to probably 50 or 60:1. It is so easy, even younger
> kids can accuratly measure the oil if told how to.
PSST... You can get all sorts of ratios by doubling/trippling or
halving/quartering the amount of gas you add. Double the gas and the
60:1 amount of oil will make 120:1 ratio. Halve the amount of gas and
the 60:1 amount of of oil will give 30:1. Using this method you can
acheive about any ratio imaginable. :)
dsc - acssysdsc
Dudley Cornman
> Brett,
> go to your local bike shop (wherever you purchase your oil and tell them you
> want a 'Ratio-Rite". Its a graduated container which has pints, ounces and
If you do see if you can locate one that has the nice snap on lid...
> cc's on one side and a scale on the other showing the level of oil for
> varying ratios i.e. 40-1, 50-1 etc,per 1,1.5,2 or 2.5 galon the other.Its
> the most foolproof thing I've found for doing pre-mix.
The pre-mix I'm using is one complete bottle to 5 gals... pretty fool
proof. I do have a ratio rite too though.
dsc - acssysdsc
David Jones
"Brett" <bj...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:01bfa43a$635163c0$81386ccb@brett-johnston...
> Hi!
>
> How accurate do you need to be when mixing fuel? My KDX needs 32:1 I can
> accurately measure the oil in a glass jug, but it's harder to measure out
> the gas. I use a 10 liter Jerry can, but I think it holds more than 10
> liters if you fill it right up to the nozzle. Am I being too fussy? Does
> anyone have a good way of mixing 2-stroke fuel?
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
Brett,
Hope I'm not off base here with an assumption. You must store your
fuel in a larger container and then put it into the 10L can to mix?
If it were me, I'd take the time to put a measured 10L in the can,
then mark or remember the approximate level. For 32:1 divide the amt
of fuel by 32 (10L/32 = .3125L).
In answer to your second question, at 32:1 you have a little "fudge"
factor, if you aren't exactly right on. Suppose, in your can you
actually have the below amounts of fuel and simply add the correct
amount of oil for 10L at 32:1:
10.25L (10.25/.3125 = 32.8) ratio = 32.8:1
10.50L (10.50/.3125 = 33.6) ratio = 33.6:1
11.00L (11.00/.3125 = 35.1) ratio = 35.1:1
You could be off by an entire liter and I doubt you or your bike could
discern the difference.
Sometimes I think we get a little anal about things, as in:
"I think today I'll run 12.49338 lbs of pressure in my rear tire,
yesterday I had it at 12.49635 lbs and it wouldn't hook up
anywhere......."
David Y2KTM2E
Email: djo...@cyberhighway.net
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~djones/
Home of the "The Very Unofficial RMD Page"
wink
"Dudley Cornman" <acss...@acs.eku.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <38f50...@texas.uncensored-news.com>, "wink" <wi...@nod.com>
writes:
> > Brett,
> > go to your local bike shop (wherever you purchase your oil and tell them
you
> > want a 'Ratio-Rite". Its a graduated container which has pints, ounces
and
>
> If you do see if you can locate one that has the nice snap on lid...
>
extra.....
> The pre-mix I'm using is one complete bottle to 5 gals... pretty fool
> proof. I do have a ratio rite too though.
> How much is one complete bottle? What ratio are you winding up with?
Actaully I purchase my oil (Champion, formerly Duralube until they lost the
lawsuit with the additive manuf. of the same name) from my local KTM dealer
in gallon jugs. Its about half the price as compared to buying it by the
pint.
Cheers......
> dsc - acssysdsc
Brian McGarry
Mr. Jones what's your favorite mixing tip.
Brian
David Jones
wrote:
>Notice that only guys with KTMs replied to this thread.
>Mr. Jones what's your favorite mixing tip.
My reader shows my "tips" post just above this one........
>Brian
Chris
I was filling up my gas container a few weeks ago. I had the
plastic container sitting on the tailgate of my truck while I was
fueling up. A guy who was filling his car walked over and stated
that he worked for a petroleum company and that he has seen some
internal correspondence on the possibility of static-ignited
fires due to the difference in potential between the truck and
plastic container. He said that it was a topic of discussion
ONLY but wanted to pass it along. So, to play it safe, I now
place the container on the ground when fueling....
Chris
99kx250
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Dudley Cornman
> This is related to 'mixing fuel':
>
> I was filling up my gas container a few weeks ago. I had the
> plastic container sitting on the tailgate of my truck while I was
> fueling up. A guy who was filling his car walked over and stated
> that he worked for a petroleum company and that he has seen some
> internal correspondence on the possibility of static-ignited
> fires due to the difference in potential between the truck and
> plastic container. He said that it was a topic of discussion
> ONLY but wanted to pass it along. So, to play it safe, I now
> place the container on the ground when fueling....
I've heard something similar about filling up boats... that it to keep
the nozzel in contact with the fill spout to prevent a static spark.
dsc - acssysdsc
David Jones
<llandiN...@worldnet.att.net.invalid> wrote:
>This is related to 'mixing fuel':
>
> I was filling up my gas container a few weeks ago. I had the
>plastic container sitting on the tailgate of my truck while I was
>fueling up. A guy who was filling his car walked over and stated
>that he worked for a petroleum company and that he has seen some
>internal correspondence on the possibility of static-ignited
>fires due to the difference in potential between the truck and
>plastic container. He said that it was a topic of discussion
>ONLY but wanted to pass it along. So, to play it safe, I now
>place the container on the ground when fueling....
If you've got a plastic bedliner then watch out. I saw a ditty on the
news last year about this very thing. I think it had to do with a
static build up and discharge. They made the gasoline ignite w/o any
other apparent source of ignition.
>Chris
>99kx250
Igor
using imperial units (ounces, quarts, fathoms and other arcaic units).
If your using metric, it's much easier to mix at 30:1. I have done so for
the entire life of an '83 KX250 and never had a problem.
JR
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