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Bob Agee

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Mar 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/19/96
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While snow skiing recently, I was horse laughed when I made the
comment that riding my dirt bike was the only exercise I had lately.
I need help in finding articles (not from motorcycle magazines) about
cardiovascular fitness and how motocross riders rank against other
athletes. I've seen several of these articles over the years, but
need one from a nonbiased source.

Thanks for the help, Bob Agee


Mark O'Connor

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Mar 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/20/96
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ba...@opel.mindspring.com (Bob Agee) said:

>I was horse laughed when I made the
>comment that riding my dirt bike was the only exercise I had lately

Can't help you on the article search, but the same thing happened
to me recently... Someone asked me "How do you stay so fit?" When
I responded, "Well I ride my motorcycle..." they were puzzled.
"You mean you stay fit by merely rotating that throttle thingy?"
"Amazing, isn't it?" I quipped.

-mark

dojorat

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Mar 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/21/96
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Well, my mind's pretty rusty on this one, but you might check with
anyone you know that has a ton of MXA issues. I seem to remember them
doing a rather large article on it back in....hmmm...... I'd say
somewhere in the reign of RJ. I believe they quoted the study that puts
motocrossers right at the top of the fitness list, but I don't remember
who did the study or where. Seems like the only sport which was as
physically demanding (or more) as motocross was soccer. They tested
athletes from several sports, and the top ones seemed to be motocrossers
and cross-country runners. The major thing you need to remember about
our sport is the fact that (studies or not) it is by far the most
demanding sport out there. Just think - not only are you beating the
hell out of your body lap after lap, but you're working your mind the
entire time as well. I don't know of many other sports that can claim
the same thing. Mountain bike racing comes to mind.... and
also....hmmm.... Pretty short list, it looks like.

Astro

"Big hand's on 120, little hand's on 'E'. Hey Nyquil driver... It's
Nyquil drivin' time" - They Might Be Giants

Kerry Simmons

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Mar 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/21/96
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Bob,

Check out MotoPlex... go to the News Stand and read 'Motocross Info.'
Look for the heading "The World of Motocross"

Here you will find an article regarding the fitness of Motocrossers.
The article was sent to me by Mike Kidd Promotions, and was written
either by them or some other MXers, but the facts contained are straight
out of a study conducted by the National Athletic Health Institute
(NAHI). It is very interesting and something to impress every non-MXer
you run into!!

http://impactracing.com/mxinfo.html

Kerry Simmons
Impact Racing/MotoPlex
http://impactracing.com

Ken Murphy

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Mar 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/21/96
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Bob Agee (ba...@opel.mindspring.com) wrote:
: While snow skiing recently, I was horse laughed when I made the
: comment that riding my dirt bike was the only exercise I had lately.
: I need help in finding articles (not from motorcycle magazines) about
: cardiovascular fitness and how motocross riders rank against other
: athletes. I've seen several of these articles over the years, but
: need one from a nonbiased source.

Bob,

Just find an extra bike. Take Horse Laugher out for a short 70 mile
trail ride. ;)

: Thanks for the help, Bob Agee

--
O Ken Murphy aka ke...@array.com RMEC
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Jeff Keefe

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Mar 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/22/96
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Invite them on a ride, that should convince them!


SBroon

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Mar 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/22/96
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There was a study, I remember it too. Broc Glover and Hannah were among
those tested by a major university. That would put us in the 1978-1981
range. The people at the university that were used to football players
and such were blown away!!

Ken Murphy

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Mar 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/26/96
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dojorat (doj...@basinlink.com) wrote:

: Mark O'Connor wrote:
: >
: > ba...@opel.mindspring.com (Bob Agee) said:
: >

: hell out of your body lap after lap, but you're working your mind the

: entire time as well. I don't know of many other sports that can claim
: the same thing. Mountain bike racing comes to mind.... and
: also....hmmm.... Pretty short list, it looks like.

Hmmm, don't race enduro's do you Mark? Ever tried, "Ok, my odo says,
88.4, roll chart says , hmm need to roll that up, ok, look out-TREE!,
ok, roll chart says 88.8, turn left, now odo says 88.6, where's that
damn clock?... " I'm certainly not belittling motoX, just stating
that to ride enduro's you have to have math skills after 80 miles. ;)

Mark O'Connor

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Mar 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/27/96
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ke...@array.com (Ken Murphy) writes:


% dojorat (doj...@basinlink.com) wrote:
% : Mark O'Connor wrote:
% : >
% : > ba...@opel.mindspring.com (Bob Agee) said:
% : >
%
% : hell out of your body lap after lap, but you're working your mind the
% : entire time as well. I don't know of many other sports that can claim
% : the same thing. Mountain bike racing comes to mind.... and
% : also....hmmm.... Pretty short list, it looks like.
%
%Hmmm, don't race enduro's do you Mark? Ever tried, "Ok, my odo says,
%88.4, roll chart says , hmm need to roll that up, ok, look out-TREE!,
%ok, roll chart says 88.8, turn left, now odo says 88.6, where's that
%damn clock?... " I'm certainly not belittling motoX, just stating
%that to ride enduro's you have to have math skills after 80 miles. ;)

You talking to me Ken? I believe you've got yer attribution a bit mixed
up. That wasn't me. Besides, everyone knows I'm merely a MX weenie,
you know, always wadding meself up senselessly. Everyone laughed at me
when I showed up to my first enduro with my HP43 ducted-taped to the bars.
"What!?" I said, "I thought a computer was req'd!"

-mark

Russ Schooley

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Mar 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/28/96
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MerfMan writes:

> I'm certainly not belittling motoX, just stating

> that to ride enduro's you have to have math skills after 80 miles. ;)

So, Merf, does this mean that there is something that differentiates you
from the rest of us........do you have a 80 toes and fingers? Just curious
as to what makes numbers beyond "80" require math skills. :) LOL

Russ Schooley
Allen, TX
'94 KX-250 #67

Astro Moondoggie

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Mar 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/28/96
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Ken Murphy wrote:

>
> : hell out of your body lap after lap, but you're working your mind the

> : entire time as well. I don't know of many other sports that can claim

> : the same thing. Mountain bike racing comes to mind.... and

> : also....hmmm.... Pretty short list, it looks like.
>

> Hmmm, don't race enduro's do you Mark? Ever tried, "Ok, my odo says,

> 88.4, roll chart says , hmm need to roll that up, ok, look out-TREE!,

> ok, roll chart says 88.8, turn left, now odo says 88.6, where's that

> damn clock?... " I'm certainly not belittling motoX, just stating


> that to ride enduro's you have to have math skills after 80 miles. ;)
>

Well Ken, first off you got the wrong guy. I'm the one who wrote what
you quoted. And to paraphrase what you said, *I* didn't mean to belittle
enduro racing. I know what enduros are like since my Dad raced them when
I was little (on a Can Am no less) Why do you think I picked motocross?
:) Basically when I wrote what I did, I was thinking of all off-road
motorcycling in general. Since MX was the topic of the subject, that was
what I went with. By "other sports" I meant "Other activities not
involving motorcycles". I'm sure road racers could hound me on the same
thing, what with all that tight leather they wear and stuff ;)

Astro...

Ken Murphy

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Mar 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/28/96
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Mark O'Connor (oco...@Glue.umd.edu) wrote:

: ke...@array.com (Ken Murphy) writes:


: % : Mark O'Connor wrote:

^ ^ ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: % : hell out of your body lap after lap, but you're working your mind the
^ ^ ^

: You talking to me Ken? I believe you've got yer attribution a bit mixed


: up. That wasn't me. Besides, everyone knows I'm merely a MX weenie,

I suppose I could have gotten the attributions wrong, but doesn't this
look right? I got hammered by the 'other' guy too!

: -mark

In any case, I wasn't trying to 'offend' anyone, just pointing out that
to race enduro's you need math skills while racing a motoX. ;)

Tis all.

Ken Murphy

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Mar 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/28/96
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Russ Schooley (scho...@bnr.ca) wrote:

: MerfMan writes:

: > I'm certainly not belittling motoX, just stating


: > that to ride enduro's you have to have math skills after 80 miles. ;)

: So, Merf, does this mean that there is something that differentiates you


: from the rest of us........do you have a 80 toes and fingers? Just curious
: as to what makes numbers beyond "80" require math skills. :) LOL

I must not be reading my own stuff correctly. Let me try to clarify. After
you have ridden 80 miles, in an enduro, you still need to be able to have
adequate math skills to do long division, if you don't have a computer.

Example: Speed avg is 24mph (.4 mpm). Odo reads 90.3 Jart sez 94.9.
((94.9 - 90.3) / .4 = x ) x = how far ahead/behind you are.

: Russ Schooley

Craig Danczyk

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Mar 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/29/96
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Endurance has always been my strong point in Motocross. I run a lot
of 10 K's (6.2 miles) during the year to stay in shape. Last year I
ran the Vicksburg Run Thru History in 45:07. This course is 6.2 miles
of the gnarliest hills in Mississippi. I also love to work out on the
stairmaster at my local gym (Wyatt's Gym Vicksburg,MS). Last week
I went 5.2 miles on the machine which was the equivalent of 249 flights
of stairs in a 40 minute work out. Yall have shown me the light!
Long division and addition will also incorporate my MX workouts!

Craig Danczyk #46


(94 YZR 250)


TEidam

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Mar 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/29/96
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In article <4jcdo1$2...@mariner.umd.edu>, oco...@Glue.umd.edu (Mark
O'Connor) writes:

>ke...@array.com (Ken Murphy) writes:
>
>
>
>Hmmm, don't race enduro's do you Mark? Ever tried, "Ok, my odo says,
>88.4, roll chart says , hmm need to roll that up, ok, look out-TREE!,
>ok, roll chart says 88.8, turn left, now odo says 88.6, where's that

>damn clock?... " I'm certainly not belittling motoX, just stating

>that to ride enduro's you have to have math skills after 80 miles. ;)
>
>

Pefect description of riding an enduro except I have 2 problems with it.
First, after the about 50 miles I don't bother with the roll chart, I'M
LATE. Second, math skills at 80 miles, hell, I'm using survival skills at
80 miles. I take that back, I do use the roll chart at 80 miles to see how
many miles I have until my first beer!!!. Part of that survival thing :-)

BTW: When trying to convince my wife that off-road motorcycle racing is
the world's toughest sport, she claimed doing my laundry while listening
to my bullshit (without laughing) is tougher.

TEidam
"When in doubt, GAS IT!!!"

TEidam

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Mar 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/30/96
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In article <4jffs7$k...@news.vicksburg.com>, Craig Danczyk
<cdan...@vicksburg.com> writes:

> I also love to work out on the
>stairmaster at my local gym (Wyatt's Gym Vicksburg,MS). Last week
>I went 5.2 miles on the machine which was the equivalent of 249 flights
>of stairs in a 40 minute work out. Yall have shown me the light!
>Long division and addition will also incorporate my MX workouts!
>
>Craig Danczyk #46

You are a glutton for punishment, that stairmaster is a killer ! To be
serious. . . I try to ride my mountain bike 2-3 times a week. Good for the
legs and lungs, also helps keep reactions sharp and develops good line
selection.

For my arms, I use a 10lb weight on a 4ft. rope with the other end through
a 1in wooden dowel rod (or broomhandle). Hold the handle at shoulder level
(elbows locked) and twist the handle to roll up the weight on the rope.
Then, (slowly) roll the weight back down. This helps my hands, wrists, and
forearms. While doing this I try to convert miles to minutes for each
speed average (15mph, 18mph, 24mph) in my head. If I'm feeling really
sharp I'll calculate compound interest rates for my next dirt bike
purchase. This keeps my mental math skills sharp for loooooooong enduros.
:-)

jfradaford@nwkjfr-8580

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Apr 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/1/96
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In article <4jffs7$k...@news.vicksburg.com>, <cdan...@vicksburg.com> writes:

> Endurance has always been my strong point in Motocross. I run a lot
> of 10 K's (6.2 miles) during the year to stay in shape. Last year I
> ran the Vicksburg Run Thru History in 45:07. This course is 6.2 miles
> of the gnarliest hills in Mississippi. I also love to work out on the

> stairmaster at my local gym (Wyatt's Gym Vicksburg,MS). Last week
> I went 5.2 miles on the machine which was the equivalent of 249 flights
> of stairs in a 40 minute work out. Yall have shown me the light!
> Long division and addition will also incorporate my MX workouts!
>
> Craig Danczyk #46


Rad>> I'm impressed!!! My fitness program consist's of switching from
Bud to Bud Light!!!


Famous last word's....Sand doesn't hurt as much when you fall!!!!


Ken Murphy

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Apr 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/1/96
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TEidam (tei...@aol.com) wrote:
: In article <4jcdo1$2...@mariner.umd.edu>, oco...@Glue.umd.edu (Mark
: O'Connor) writes:

: >ke...@array.com (Ken Murphy) writes:
: >

: BTW: When trying to convince my wife that off-road motorcycle racing is


: the world's toughest sport, she claimed doing my laundry while listening
: to my bullshit (without laughing) is tougher.

Buy her a bike! My wife said she thought it looked like fun. She
started racing, kicked butt, but commented that it is the toughest
thing she's ever done. ;)

: TEidam


: "When in doubt, GAS IT!!!"

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