Fellow Riders/Racers... Sanity Check!
TMaxel
put your feet up and think... You all know how much I hate to think! ;-)
Seriously... Lisa and I have been trading some EMail on how to deal with your
kids racing. Hey, its a tough sport and injuries are a part of it. Lisa has
the same questions Sherry and I were asking one a nother back about 2 yrs ago.
Its all a part of racing... I think of it as the reality of racing.
On top of this... We go to Taylbon's house for the weekend. Yep, he's doing
fine. He is still sore, but not too sore for he and Sherry to go a few
rounds... Man, those two have NO MERCY! <LOL>
Eric "At least my injuries were at Kenworthy's... Troy's were in his BACK
YARD!"
Troy "HEY! I was doing a double!"
Sherry "Yeah, at least he was off the ground, hell you were going around a
turn... Even I can do THAT!"
<LOL> Man, it was D E A P !
Eric is in good spirits... Well... Somewhat. He is doing the usual talk of
giving up riding. Folks, for those of you that haven't riden with Eric, he is
a pretty good B rider.
Can't blame him much, he has two daughters (2 and 1 yr old), the medical bills
are starting to roll in... That damn rod they put in his leg... The titanium
rod was $2400!!! Shoot, they didn't use that many dollars worth of titanium
in Doug Henry's YZ last year! (OK, they probably did, but I am sure there was
10 times the amount of metal... You get the picture) And this was just a
small fall! Last year he broke his neck, this year his leg, teeth and he is
getting some numbness back in his arm... You got it!
He is catching a lot of heat... 'You shouldn't be riding', 'You should be
thinking of your family', 'You don't think of your little girls futures when
you are doing these things'... Man, in front of company and all! Now, his
wife is pretty cool with it... His wife is understanding, but she too is
getting... Should we say, concerned. I guess they (Eric and his wife) have
been joking about "Yamaha for sale". :-( I kept coming back with 'Oh, in a
couple weeks you will be ready to tear some sod! You will be trying to figure
out how to ride with your broken leg up on the bars'... Lets put it this
way...
Before we left, he wanted to know if we could work out a deal on trading his
bike as partial for our boat! The bike is still at our house, but I hate to
see him get out of it. :-(
On the other hand... Its his call... I can understand the questions, wanting
to sell the bike, etc. I just hate to be involved in his decision making.
But, that is Eric.
As for me... All this REALLY makes me question whether or not I should be
riding. On one hand I am thinking... If I sold my bike I could put the money
towards a lot of things... Like the kids' racing... Should the kids be
racing? Am I a good father for letting them get on the track? Shoot... This
is all BS! I will take that YZ out to Kenworthy's this week for practice and
see if I want to trade it towards that boat! But... Its blue! ;-)
Its funny how God puts us to the test some times. You have to follow your
heart, follow your instincts. If you love to race, ride, whatever, you have to
follow it. I have seen a lot of injuries in the past four years, I haven't
seen many people quit.
You should see the kids practicing at Kenworthy's! Man, they are tearing up
track! I get so pumped watching them and I loving riding that track with
them... Doubt I could really get the kahunas to ride the track with 30 other C
riders... Too tempting to try that double that I just haven't been able to do
yet. Shoot the boys are doing it! Nah... Gotta know my limits.
Bingo! There is the point to this whole post! Gotta know your limits... Its
as I have said many times on this group and I said it to Lisa. You have to
know your limits! But, Eric's accident was in a turn... Hmmmm... Oh well, I
have rattled long enough... See ya at the races this weekend! :-)
TMaxel
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Cbake777
I'm sure many riders have struggled with this issue. I have been a participant
in "High risk sports" for over 20 years. I have suffered many injuries that
were a result of these sports. I have questioned what about my kids, what would
happen if I were unable to work, maybe I should stop, I'm too old for
this....etc, etc. I believe that the first order of business for anyone
involved in a high risk sport is to make sure that your family and your
financial position is secure in the event of a catastrophic injury. I never
felt as comfortable as I have when I knew that my disability, life, and health
insurance policies were up to date. That way I can enjoy riding and racing,
knowing that if I am injured, I won't create a hardship for my family. They
understand that this is more than a hobby, it is a lifestyle and the sanity
that we all need. I hope he doesn't leave the sport forever, maybe just take a
sabattical to gain perspective. Life is for living!!
Chris Baker
94 RMX 250
88 Z50R (The Beast)
WittSR
broken one bone while on a dirtbike.
Most of my bad injuries were on mountain bikes and playing Baseball and
football.
I have gotten into big crashes too ran into the back of a bike at 70 miles an
hour and hit my back on a big rock. Rode home from that just fine.
Then i did a backflip while jumping my mounttain didn't know how i did but i
landed on my back from 10 feet in the air with the bike on top of me. i could
barely ride home after that.
scott
>towards a lot of things... Like the kids' racing... Should the kids be
>racing? Am I a good father for letting them get on the track? Shoot...
This
>is all BS! I will take that YZ out to Kenworthy's this week for practice
and
>see if I want to trade it towards that boat! But... Its blue! ;-)
>
<SNIP>
If you put that blue thing in your garage I will NEVER speak to you again!
:)
Scott
'98 RM250 #819***Thanks to Shipps Yamaha-Suzuki
Tim - fusion1
>As for me... All this REALLY makes me question whether or not I should be
>riding. On one hand I am thinking... If I sold my bike I could put the money
>towards a lot of things... Like the kids' racing... Should the kids be
>racing? Am I a good father for letting them get on the track? Shoot... This
>is all BS! I will take that YZ out to Kenworthy's this week for practice and
>see if I want to trade it towards that boat! But... Its blue! ;-)
Has anyone here that's old enough to be aware of their own mortality
not wrestled with these issues?
I don't have kids yet, so I haven't dealt with that yet, but its a
toughie...
There are probably going to be broken bones from roller blading, tree
climbing, bicycle riding regardless of what you do to protect them.
Would I want my child on a MX track? Right now I'd say no.
Would I keep my child off of dirt bikes? I doubt it.
Would I ever want my kid to get a street bike? No way.
Would I let my daughter on a boyfriends streetbike? (!!!)
Lets just hope I have boys, huh?
I read about some of the guys in RMD trail riding with their children,
and it sounds great. The family is together doing something the kid
loves. That's not always an easy thing as kids move from 10 toward
their early teens.
I've been riding for a long time -off and on for about 20 years.
I had a couple of bikes as a kid, got out of it before I started
driving, then got back into it years later in my late 20's.
I'm not even competitive about it. I just like going out and
exploring/trail riding.
To me, that is the way I will get the most benefit and longevity from
the sport.
If I start fearing that I'm going to get hurt in a way that is going
to affect my livelyhood, or maybe come back to give me problems in my
later years, as much as I'd miss it, I'd give it up.
I've had some cartiledge removed from one knee already (non cycle
related), and I wonder if that knee is going to give me a problem as I
get older. I'd definitely like to have full use of my joints when I'm
in my 60's, whether it be for walking the golf course (doubt it), or
chasing the grand-kids.
I've had more than my share of bruises and stitches, but if I suffered
some of the injuries I've read about here, I think I'd be having a
sidewalk sale. Neck injury?
Nothing scares me more.
Bad enough that if it even happened to a friend I might not ever feel
the same about riding again.
I suppose you never know till it happens, though.
Makes me feel like kind of a puss to admit all that, but Troys post
was pretty compelling.
CR250 DR350se XR600
http://www.users.fast.net/~fusion1
(trail riding, rat bikes, rental car abuse...)
Jay C
>If I start fearing that I'm going to get hurt in a way that is going
>to affect my livelyhood, or maybe come back to give me problems in my
>later years, as much as I'd miss it, I'd give it up.
Puss.
o_
Jay O\-O
'98 xr400r - '84 mx250lc - '86 xv1100 - '93 klr250
Lisa Horn
TMaxel <tma...@aol.com> wrote in article
<199808101705...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
> Man, All the crap happening lately... Sometimes you just have to sit
back,
> put your feet up and think... You all know how much I hate to think! ;-)
>
> Seriously... Lisa and I have been trading some EMail on how to deal with
your
> kids racing. Hey, its a tough sport and injuries are a part of it. Lisa
has
> the same questions Sherry and I were asking one a nother back about 2 yrs
ago.
> Its all a part of racing... I think of it as the reality of racing.
>
> On top of this... We go to Taylbon's house for the weekend......
Man Troy it's tough when you care isn't it? I'm sure it is difficult to
see Eric in a different light then your own, knowing it could just as
easily be you. And children racing ... well as you said we've talked about
it. (Jeffrey, my son, has tread marks on his back from getting run into
and run over at VC this past weekend - lucky he was hurt and I couldn't
see it)
But I think you've hit the nail on the head when you talk about knowing
your limits. And Its probably good to scare yourself now and then because
it kind of brings you back to reality. The problem with racing and/or
riding around a bunch of dim witted no accounts (like those guys that
zoomed past me on both sides) makes it about more then your own limits.
Chris Baker has some really good points on this, I think. I always say
myself that life is way too short so make the most of it. Look at some of
the people that died recently, not from a motorcycle accidents. The Quality
of life isn't about how long or short or in what condition. It's what you
make of it. We waste so much of our lives, sometimes just wishing it away
for something better to happen.
I understand that the people who care about Eric don't want to feel that
pain anymore and he doesn't want to go through it or put them through it
either. But you are right to think it should to be his own decision. It
has to be or he will be miserable in the end. And chances are if he is
goated into quitting motorcycles he will replace it with something with
just the same amount of danger. (Geez, I'd rather be on a dirt bike then a
boat any day.)
As far as children go. There are many times with many subjects I just sit
and think Geez, I wish these kids came with a manual. Or hummm I wonder if
I can return this one because they seem to be malfunctioning. <G> Raising
them in this day and age has so many frights. Kids lack the maturity to
focus many times and that is why the lay prey to the undesirable traits of
the world. After having so much trouble with my teenage daughter we would
have done anything to keep hold of our son. Yes, this is why I'm so
involved. You have to keep them busy 24/7. The rude awakening in our case
was when my husband was away on a flight and my son and his new "older"
rock band friends disappeared from our backyard pool without a word.
Normally he is very good about letting me know what's going on but he was
so blindsided by "Being Cool" it didn't cross his mind that evening. It
started getting late. It was reaching 11 p.m., which was his curefew, and
still no word. Then the magic hour passed and nothing. This wasn't not
like him. Never any trouble, even had a job at a grocery store at 14 years
of age. Litterally aces the taas test at school besides having grades of 95
or above in all his classes. And him and I could talk about most
everything. Anyway, I was extremely worried calling everyone and anyone.
At midnight I get this phone call from a mother of one of the boys he went
out with. She said her son came home after they brought and left Jeffrey
at a party lacking parental supervision. To make a long horrible story
shorter; Jeffrey, never having experienced Alcohol before consumed 8/9
straight shots of Vodka within 20 minutes on a dare. This after being in
the pool all day and eating only a light dinner. He weighs 130 pounds.
After puking and passing out, falling and hitting his head on a table, the
kids threw him first into an iced bathtub and then a very hot one. When I
showed up on the doorstep the kids denied Jeffrey was even in the house and
when I shouldered my way through the door past them I found him
convulsing, shivering in wet clothes, blue faced on the floor. (I've seen
drunk before and I've seen things in death's grip.. this was serious) I
immediately called 911. The whole time these kids denied what it was that
he taken or drank let alone that he'd gotten it there just to save
themselves from being in trouble.
The paramedics worked on for awhile and he stablized a bit. But the last
thing they said before they made route to the hospital was "if he codes
and we have to go fast ... don't try and follow us". Man the tone of that
mans voice will forever be imprinted in my brain. Anyway, our son almost
died from alcohol poisoning. He made the decision to go and partake in
this within an 1 1/2 after leaving my home. Why? because he wanted to fit
in and be cool. A mind full of mush... litterally.
My point with sharing this story is that maybe there are worse things than
"somewhat controlled excitement". Dirt Bikes/trails and racing builds
character, responsibility, confidence, self esteem and focus. As a mom and
the wife of a happy husband, I feel the benefits outway the risks.
Lisa
97KDX200
bill lawrence
topic. locally weve had a track (hillside raceway in waterford PA)
threatened with closure by local zoning authorities. its zoned
agricultural, and basically, the neibors didnt like the noise or dust.
someone knew how the land ws zoned and proceeded to put a stop to "those
damn dirt-bikers". now, mind you, the nearest house is a good 1/4 mile
away on the other side of the main road, and woods separate the houses
on the same side. well it went to court, and thier argument was that its
dangerous! the land owner and everyone else responded with basically,
"its a controlled situation with an ambulance and paramedics on the
site" sure its dangerous, but so is driving to work, mowing the grass,
cleaning your gutters, ect. lukily the landowner won the right to keep
the track open. if kids werent so interested in dirt bikes what would
they be interested in? drugs? alcohol? unprotected sex? COME ON! its
good clean fun. weve got a local pro named timmy pustelak, who has
broken his neck twice and his wrist once while crashing. when asked why
he still rides he replies because i love to ride. another friend of mine
who rides has a father who is always miserable, works 16 hrs a day and
is always wondering where the next dollar is coming from. ive never seen
him smile. life is meant to be lived, sure you have to accept
responsibility, family, home, society, ect., but im gonna have me some
fun, and you can bet nothing brings a bigger grin to my mug than a big
ole roostin 4th gear wheelie....................
OldFart
>He is catching a lot of heat... 'You shouldn't be riding', 'You should be
>thinking of your family',
>
>As for me... All this REALLY makes me question whether or not I should be
>riding.
>yet. Shoot the boys are doing it! Nah... Gotta know my limits.
A lot of us have faced the same questions. And they are questions you SHOULD
be asking yourself.
I, for one, simply quit racing motocross.
I could not justify the accidents, costs, and suffering my family would ensue
should I die or get cripple racing. And don't think it doesnt happen. It
seems like weekly you read about this guy broke his back, and that guy died.
So I quit racing and riding for a few years and realized that I wasn't really
happy. I was able to come to a compromise and get back into riding but not in
a competitive way.
Do I enjoy it as much as when I raced MX every weekend? Actually yes. I have
met some super people and get to ride with them without the 'pecking order'
thing of MX.
I simply do not get hurt anymore. That alone is pretty cool coz I got tired of
being banged up. I ride way more than I used to because I am not waiting for
my 20+2 times however many classes I was in. Now I ride for hours and hours,
see great scenery, and bring back a bike that doesn't need a boatload of
maintenance.
Good luck with your tribulation. Some dude said "That which doesn't kill us
makes us stronger". He was full of crap and a masochist. Pain sucks.
Mike
OldFart
>I believe that the first order of business for anyone
>involved in a high risk sport is to make sure that your family and your
>financial position is secure in the event of a catastrophic injury. I never
>felt as comfortable as I have when I knew that my disability, life, and health
>insurance policies were up to date. That way I can enjoy riding and racing,
>knowing that if I am injured, I won't create a hardship for my family.
That is all good and well up to the point where you check out. Then no amount
of money is going to compensate your family, especially your kids, for
their loss.
To me it is just like quitting partying and running around with your hair on
fire. That is fine for a single person. But it is not the actions of a person
who has taken on the commitment of a family.
This is, of course, just MY philosophy, and certainly no more than that. I am
not so arrogant as to be trying to tell someone else they should live their
life this way just because that is how I decided to live mine. In other words,
I'm not a Democrat.
WHOA NELLY!!!, that ought to get me the flame attention I have been looking
for!!
If not, how about this:
LIBERALS AREN'T
OF
Tim - fusion1
>Puss.
Hah!
Maybe I'll take one more ride after I get hurt.
I'll douse the old CR with gas, set it on fire, and ghost ride it at
your bike hangar/ammo dump. =8^P
Tim
Ghost Rider
>Man, All the crap happening lately... Sometimes you just have to sit back,
>put your feet up and think... You all know how much I hate to think! ;-)
Everyone does at one time or another.......
>
>On top of this... We go to Taylbon's house for the weekend.
<SNIP>
>Eric is in good spirits... Well... Somewhat. He is doing the usual talk of
>giving up riding. Folks, for those of you that haven't riden with Eric, he is
>a pretty good B rider.
<snip, bummer, but expected>
>
>Can't blame him much, he has two daughters (2 and 1 yr old), the medical bills
>are starting to roll in... That damn rod they put in his leg... The titanium
>rod was $2400!!!
<SNIP , LOTS O MONEY!>
>
>He is catching a lot of heat... 'You shouldn't be riding', 'You should be
>thinking of your family', 'You don't think of your little girls futures when
>you are doing these things'...
<SNIP<
People who are not around the sport and have never felt the feeling us
riders feel, just don't know!! And alot of them are PUSSIES, they
play Golf for fun........... Baaaahhhhh Waaaaaa!!!
> I kept coming back with 'Oh, in a
>couple weeks you will be ready to tear some sod! You will be trying to figure
>out how to ride with your broken leg up on the bars'... Lets put it this
>way...
Yeah, keep on him troy, Remember my friend who broke both of his
legs on the triple at my local track, well, he got 2 rods, lots of
cutting, both lower bones in his leg <Tibia, and fibula> were broken,
and he sprained his ankles.......
Now in my opinion his injuries were much worse than taylbons<not
insinuating anything> but after he got off of crutches<still a limped
walk> he got on my bike at the track and took a slow lap.....
He talked the same talk, but after pricing his bike WAY high
<intentionally i think> and no one buying the bike, he is already
talking of just riding the bike for some recreational fun....... YEAH
RIGHT........ once a racer, always a racer!!
>Bingo! There is the point to this whole post! Gotta know your limits... Its
>as I have said many times on this group and I said it to Lisa. You have to
>know your limits! But, Eric's accident was in a turn... Hmmmm... Oh well, I
>have rattled long enough... See ya at the races this weekend! :-)
>
BINGO, i watched taylbon ride alot........ he pushes the limit
everytime he rides....... thats what makes him fast, and is why he
gets faster........ Maybe its time to slow down a little?
>
>TMaxel
Ghost Rider
96'KX 125 #88
Special thanks to Sunstar sprockets, JEFF@MXSOUTH,UFO plastics,
Smith Goggles, and MxMikeeep<the man!>
MX Tuner
>Has anyone here that's old enough to be aware of their own mortality
>not wrestled with these issues?
Sure. That's why I quit racing MX and bought a woods bike.
Funny how a reconstructive surgery has a persuasive power.
If I don't ride, I'll go postal.
MX Tuner
docto...@msn.com
"Jay C" <stumpy....@mci2000.com> wrote:
> Tim - fusion1 wrote in message <35cf5478...@news.fast.net>...
doctorolds wrote: I have a 3 year old and a 2 year old both boys. I plan
on bringing them up riding bikes. I ride a 96 KX250. If you keep in mind
how many million other things in this world will kill or maim you the fear
diminishes. I have several friends now dead from other things far less
rewarding. Dirt bike riding is the pursuit of skill and technique in a
challenging environment. To me, its not about gooning before friends to be
the baddest one on the block. Leave that for other stuff. Besides, It's a
great opportunity for prayer asking for God's protection just like Ezra and
Greg Albertyn. Me, I'll probably die getting hit by a drunk driver running
from the cops. That just happened to a friend of mine 2 months ago. He
wasn't even riding a dirt bike, go figure... doctorolds
>
>
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Rob Shafer
WittSR wrote:
Are you made of "DerRubber"? Not everyone is.......:-)
WittSR
Guess i must be I've found you get hurt more when your tense and riding
dirtbikes relaxes me so i just kind of bounce off of things without noticing.
ted
Geoffrey Anderson
>tma...@aol.com (TMaxel) wrote:
>
>If I start fearing that I'm going to get hurt in a way that is going
>to affect my livelyhood, or maybe come back to give me problems in my
>later years, as much as I'd miss it, I'd give it up.
>I've had some cartiledge removed from one knee already (non cycle
>related), and I wonder if that knee is going to give me a problem as I
>get older. I'd definitely like to have full use of my joints when I'm
>in my 60's, whether it be for walking the golf course (doubt it), or
>chasing the grand-kids.
>
>I've had more than my share of bruises and stitches, but if I suffered
>some of the injuries I've read about here, I think I'd be having a
>sidewalk sale. Neck injury?
>Nothing scares me more.
>Bad enough that if it even happened to a friend I might not ever feel
>the same about riding again.
>I suppose you never know till it happens, though.
>
>Makes me feel like kind of a puss to admit all that, but Troys post
>was pretty compelling.
>
All this from a known Ratbike rider. Sheesh. :-)
Geoff
Lisa Horn
OldFart <mh...@rmci.net> wrote in article <35cf3...@news.rmci.net>...
No, if you want a real flame war you have to mention "Rush Limbaugh"
....... Don't look at me, I think he's a hoot!
Lisa (tired of paying) Horn
Does that help?
P.S. Send all your liberal hate mail to "old Fart".... he's the one that
should know that methane and flames don't mix well. <VBG>
Tim - fusion1
>All this from a known Ratbike rider. Sheesh. :-)
I retract it all! I'm getting my ass whipped via e-mail too. =8^P
TMaxel started it. He got me thinking, and that's never a good thing.
Tim
jdro...@my-dejanews.com
of doubts. Always ride with someone you know is slower than you. When you are
riding through the woods at a slugs pace, and you still have to stop and wait
for your buddies, you feel much faster and you don't have to do really
dangerous things to prove you're a "fastguy". When your buddies catch up to
you and say "man, could you slow down" or "geez, I hope I can keep up with
you some day" , you get all the self-confidence you will ever need (except
when that 12 year old whizzez by on his kx60).
When my buddy Mark (fastinus-extremus) rides with us, I find myself looking
for 7th gear on my XR250. This guy is FAST. The thing is, he's old like me.
He hasn't reached that "regard for personal health" stage that I hit a couple
years ago. i just don't understand it. He is a posterchild for "NO FEAR". I
envy him. He is my best pal. But I'm not ridin' with him anymore, cuz he
doesn't make me feel fast. I guess my current ridin' buddies (the ones that
DO make me feel fast) won't be my ridin' buddies for much longer. They'll be
selling their PW50's and they'll probably be faster than me too after that.
--
J.D. Fitzpatrick
'95 XR250R
Sons '87 KX125
"Keep kickin', It'll start!"
Dennis Mesward
questions you've raised in this post. I've been wrestling with these
thoughts lately myself.
Last Monday morning, my wife picked up the paper and read that a 20-yr-old
rider had died a few hours after we left SRAC's race at Wild Rat Raceway in
Co. Spgs. My boys are novices (this was their 2nd ever MX), so we were
done by noon, but we hung around so my 10-yr-old could watch the 80cc
A/B's. We left about 4:30. The news article said the young man died at
about 7:30 after crashing while leading his race.
Linda and I talked about our fears and whether or not we should allow our
boys to ride motorcycles. We reached no conclusions. There's no denying
that there is risk, but the only time we'll know if the risk was "worth it"
is when we can look back years from now and know that they were able to
enjoy the sport without serious injuries. Only God knows that now.
Therefore, we are searching for an answer that does not yet exist.
I think Dr. Olds hit on some good points. I pray frequently for my kids'
protection in all that they do. Praying for them is much more important
than worrying for them. As the saying goes... Life is short - pray hard!
Denny
Daniel - age 10 - RM80
Joshua - age 4 - SX50
Micah - age 2 - Tyke Bike00
Rob Shafer
WittSR wrote:
> Guess i must be I've found you get hurt more when your tense and riding
> dirtbikes relaxes me so i just kind of bounce off of things without noticing.
>
Well, I've been racing some type of motorcycle since 1973 and I still get tense
on the starting line. What's your secret? :-) Yoga? I like the kind with the
fruit at the bottom! Maybe that's my problem! :-)
Rob
Jay C
MX Tuner
>Lisa (tired of paying) Horn
I would never make you pay.
MX Tuner
Lisa Horn
MX Tuner <mxt...@mindspring.com> wrote in article
<35d2ab81...@news.mindspring.com>...
>
> >Lisa (tired of paying) Horn
>
> I would never make you pay.
>
> MX Tuner
>
Mark honey...... BITE ME!!!!!! (..... ooops I forgot .. that's Jeff's job)
<G>
Lisa
MX Tuner
>> >Lisa (tired of paying) Horn
>> I would never make you pay.
>> MX Tuner
>Mark honey...... BITE ME!!!!!!
How soon we forget....
Remember, paybacks can be hell.
That wasn't it.
More later.....
MX Tuner
Lisa Horn
MX Tuner <mxt...@mindspring.com> wrote in article
<35d1ce71...@news.mindspring.com>...
Mark sweetie.... STILL BITE ME!!!!!!!! <VBG>
So are you coming to the Tx spodefest?
Lisa
MX Tuner
>Mark sweetie.... STILL BITE ME!!!!!!!! <VBG>
>So are you coming to the Tx spodefest?
Only if I can bite you.
MX Tuner
JOKERKX250
>boys to ride motorcycles. We reached no conclusions. There's no denying
>that there is risk, but the only time we'll know if the risk was "worth it"
My feeling/faith/belief is....our time here is set....your gonna go when the
"Big Man" says its your time....regardless of what your doing...so ....may as
well do what we love to do while we can....and keep praying that those you
love can too!!....The only thing to fear...is fear itself!!....This is so
true!...because its all good.
JOKER....(Steve)
'98KX250
'88KX250
spod...@rubicon.off-road.com
docto...@msn.com wrote:
> If you keep in mind
> how many million other things in this world will kill or maim you the fear
> diminishes. I have several friends now dead from other things far less
> rewarding. Dirt bike riding is the pursuit of skill and technique in a
> challenging environment. To me, its not about gooning before friends to be
> the baddest one on the block. Leave that for other stuff. Besides, It's a
> great opportunity for prayer asking for God's protection just like Ezra and
> Greg Albertyn.
I think you have hit it on the head!
In 1992 I collapsed at work after asking someone to call an ambulance -
something wasn't right. They thought I had an brain embolism - but after
surgery I found that I had a non-cancerous brain tumor that was growing on the
brain stem. The blood vessel blowing out was a warning. Needless to say, a
tumor growing into the brain stem will kill you just as surely as a car
accident, but it will do it slowly and turn you into a drooler first - Sharp
mental faculties but gradually losing control of your body until you stop
breathing. The doctor told me it was inoperable and that I had a seven year
median survival time. Fuck that!
What the fuck was I playing it safe for anyway? I didn't matter what I had
done before, because I WAS going to die this shitty death - eventually. After
getting over the denial and anger, I realized - Yes, this happens all the
time, that many are not near as lucky as I. That was when the wife left,
couldn't deal with my mortality. The worst part is she left me for an older
woman ;)
My family was incredibly supportive and got me moved back out to Colorado. My
parents are very religious and prayed for me. My brother introduced me to his
religion - Dirtbiking. He hadn't gone in a long time - but figured we would
have some good times together, roaming Utah and Colorado - places you only see
land, not people. It was a very spiritual experience.
A strange thing began to happen. I was having the time of my life, beginning
to see some of the things my over-cautious lifestyle had caused me to miss.
Risk taking is life, allows you really live. As the doctors continued to
monitor the tumor it looked as if it was beginning to enlarge drastically.
During continued followup they theorized instead that the tumor had died and
that it was actually detaching from the brain stem. I continue to get it
checked out, but I know in my heart that what has changed things around for
me is the joys of life - not medical science. I continue to ride, and though
I will never be as fast as Ty Davis, I love riding!
You HAVE to do what it is that you really enjoy, whether that is a job,
family, or recreation. If you don't, something dies inside - and the quality
of your life is for shit. For me, riding and my new wife Rebecca fill those
needs, joy.
Now. Lets just see what Spodeboy will do to the environmentalist who tries to
dictate his will on our public lands...
Stepping off bike stand...
____________________________________
William "Spodeboy" Perry '90 RM 250
AMA # 606929 RMEC # 2409
spod...@rubicon.off-road.com - remove _
http://www.off-road.com/~spodeboy/
spod...@rubicon.off-road.com
mh...@rmci.net (OldFart) wrote:
> LIBERALS AREN'T
Politics suck! Always feeling out the candidate with views least unlike our
own - no matter which party. But I am getting pretty sick of constant attacks
on personal freedoms which seem to be attached to current political liberal
thought.
____________________________________
William "Liberal" Perry '90 RM 250
spod...@rubicon.off-road.com
"Lisa Horn" <lisa...@flash.net> wrote:
> Chris Baker has some really good points on this, I think. I always say
> myself that life is way too short so make the most of it. Look at some of
> the people that died recently, not from a motorcycle accidents. The Quality
> of life isn't about how long or short or in what condition. It's what you
> make of it. We waste so much of our lives, sometimes just wishing it away
> for something better to happen.
> My point with sharing this story is that maybe there are worse things than
> "somewhat controlled excitement". Dirt Bikes/trails and racing builds
> character, responsibility, confidence, self esteem and focus. As a mom and
> the wife of a happy husband, I feel the benefits outway the risks.
This the post I wanted to make... Thank you so much Lisa!
____________________________________
William "Spodeboy" Perry '90 RM 250
Scott Wilson
[snip]
> something wasn't right. They thought I had an brain embolism - but after
> surgery I found that I had a non-cancerous brain tumor that was growing on the
> brain stem.
Man. I've always told myself I'd live the way I wanted as you
described. But I've never been DIRECTLY faced with my mortality and I
can't imagine my wife leaving me. I guess life's only a matter of
perspective.
My helmet's off to you, dude.
Scott
"SpodeKill"
95 Kawasaki KLX-250
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TMaxel
>I guess my current ridin' buddies (the ones that
>DO make me feel fast) won't be my ridin' buddies for much longer. They'll be
>selling their PW50's and they'll probably be faster than me too after that.
<LOL>
Good one JD! I like your thinking. :-)
TMaxel
<ddme...@market1.com> writes:
>
>I don't think we're doing our job as parents if we don't ponder the
>questions you've raised in this post. I've been wrestling with these
>thoughts lately myself.
>
I think this is the situation I am in... I know all the arguements against
riding, I know all the arguements for riding... I KNOW we will not give it up!
Its just that at times, (after seeing a few buddies (or yourself) rolled up in
a ball) you wonder if its the R I G H T thing. I know it is. :-)
Oh, and thanks to everyone for the responses... Sorry for making you think Tim
(fusion1), it hurts me too. :-)
Lisa Horn
spod...@rubicon.off-road.com wrote in article
<6qsfft$omh$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
(snipped an incredibly gutsy story)
> You HAVE to do what it is that you really enjoy, whether that is a job,
> family, or recreation. If you don't, something dies inside - and the
quality
> of your life is for shit. For me, riding and my new wife Rebecca fill
those
> needs, joy.
>
> Now. Lets just see what Spodeboy will do to the environmentalist who
tries to
> dictate his will on our public lands...
>
> Stepping off bike stand...
>
Truely inspirational! Thank you for sharing....
Lisa
Tim - fusion1
> My feeling/faith/belief is....our time here is set....your gonna go when the
>"Big Man" says its your time....regardless of what your doing...so ....may as
>well do what we love to do while we can....and keep praying that those you
>love can too!!....The only thing to fear...is fear itself!!....This is so
>true!...because its all good.
So God did that to Christopher Reeve, and not the Superman Curse?
Or was it maybe Chris's time, but God's clock was wrong?
Basically, dying in a motorcycle accident isn't what I'm afraid of...
CR250 DR350se XR600
http://www.users.fast.net/~fusion1
(trail riding, rat bikes, rental car abuse...)
CJonesn
>
>>So are you coming to the Tx spodefest?
>
>Only if I can bite you.
>
>MX Tuner
--
Good Gosh!!!! I'll bet the turn out is good for the Bite-a-thon!
Craig Jones
'87 YZ250 enduroized
'96 XR400R
WittSR
have my permission to sell your bike and become a couch potato for the rest of
your life.
WittSR
Someone here says it best in their signature.
Poli=many
tics=bloodsucking parasites
Kenneth Murphy
: I think this is the situation I am in... I know all the arguements against
: riding, I know all the arguements for riding... I KNOW we will not give it up!
I just read something, and immediately thought of this thread. The quote
went something like "Life is risk. You avoid the risk only by being dead"
: Its just that at times, (after seeing a few buddies (or yourself) rolled up in
: a ball) you wonder if its the R I G H T thing. I know it is. :-)
Yea, I wonder that stuff too, but I've also seen people rolled up in a
ball from stick-n-ball sports too. And car wrecks. And cancer.
Unfortunately RIGHT and WRONG are usually different depending on
the point of view. :-|
IMHO, it's your line to draw, and no one should make/want you draw it
their way. As always, YMMV.
: TMaxel
--
"I'm gonna go for it" Lisa WRT the Matador Enduro (Lest we forget! ;) )
O aka Ken Murphy (kmur...@ford.com) Owner/Operator: 98YZ250
<M>erfman Thanks to: Jen, Erin, Apex Sports, DNA Racing, FMF Racing,
_/ \_ Boyesen/Twin Air, Sprocket Specialists and Works Connection
Disclaimer: Don't even pretend you thought I spoke for Visteon
Kenneth Murphy
: Put it this way......do the gains outweigh the losses.....If you said no you
: have my permission to sell your bike and become a couch potato for the rest of
: your life.
Why be so defensive and negative? Everyone will decide what's right
or wrong for themselves. Why should it bother you what they decide?
WittSR
d...@injersey.com
>
> So God did that to Christopher Reeve, and not the Superman Curse?
> Or was it maybe Chris's time, but God's clock was wrong?
>
> Basically, dying in a motorcycle accident isn't what I'm afraid of...
>
> CR250 DR350se XR600
> http://www.users.fast.net/~fusion1
> (trail riding, rat bikes, rental car abuse...)
After talking to a lot of people who have broken their necks because of
motorcycles, I UNDERSTAND YOUR FEAR !!!