FS: 85 KLR 250
kelsay
For sale
85 Kawasaki KLR 250 Dual Sport
Middle Georgia area
Good Condition
Features
Only 2912 miles!
New battery
New plate/tag
This bike has not been ridden hard. Engine starts quick
and runs strong. Dependable transportation and lots of fun!
Garage kept.
Price: $1000 OBO
email if interested
Rob King
Hi fellow dirt riders.
My uncle's got an old beater Kawasaki dual sport bike and we can't figure
out what model it is. The serial number is unreadable and the information
on the front of the frame has worn off so you can't tell what year/model
it is. I do know it's 175cc's, it's got a black and grey paint, full
instrumentation, dual shocks, oil injection, and a two spark plug head.
He's also got a '71 350cc Kawasaki enduro bike which is simler to the 175.
I'd guess the bike is around a 70 to 75, but I need to know the model and
year because the throttle cable broke and I need to order another one (If
I still can!). Both these bikes have some goofy carb set up, where the
carb is actually inside the engine case were the clutch should be.
Thanks
Rob
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Rob King
E-mail: rld...@astral.magic.ca
Oakville, Ontario
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SSmyers102
Sounds like a KE175 as the KD didn't have lights, although I don't see why
any of the rotary valve 175's made in the '70's would have different
throttle cables. Have your dealer look at the part #'s for the KE175 for
the years you think it is and see if they aren't the same number.
Scott Smyers '74 Penton 125 + 74 Penton 175 + 74 Penton 250
OHIO 82 Suzuki GS650 + 92 KTM 250T/XC +
93 Yamaha XT225 Serow + 74 Hodaka Wombat +
AHRMA 68 Suzuki TT125 Project Bike< :-o
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Bev
| My uncle's got an old beater Kawasaki dual sport bike and we can't figure
| out what model it is. The serial number is unreadable and the information
| on the front of the frame has worn off so you can't tell what year/model
| it is. I do know it's 175cc's, it's got a black and grey paint, full
| instrumentation, dual shocks, oil injection, and a two spark plug head.
| He's also got a '71 350cc Kawasaki enduro bike which is simler to the 175.
| I'd guess the bike is around a 70 to 75, but I need to know the model and
| year because the throttle cable broke and I need to order another one (If
| I still can!). Both these bikes have some goofy carb set up, where the
| carb is actually inside the engine case were the clutch should be.
I had a 197x Kawasaki F7 with a 175 engine, carb inside the case, etc.
Black and sort of dirty caramel-color, though. Built sort of like a
trials bike, but nowhere near good enough. Can Kawasaki tell from a
photograph and the engine serial number?
Bev bas...@ktb.net
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Does traveling faster than warp 4.7 REALLY cause pollution of the
space-time continuum, or are they just saying that so they don't
have to fix the potholes?
mhv.net
In <4u90rt$i...@dns.ktb.net>, bas...@ktb.net (Bev) writes:
>| My uncle's got an old beater Kawasaki dual sport bike and we can't figure
>| out what model it is. The serial number is unreadable and the information
>| on the front of the frame has worn off so you can't tell what year/model
>| it is. I do know it's 175cc's, it's got a black and grey paint, full
>| instrumentation, dual shocks, oil injection, and a two spark plug head.
>| He's also got a '71 350cc Kawasaki enduro bike which is simler to the 175.
>| I'd guess the bike is around a 70 to 75, but I need to know the model and
>| year because the throttle cable broke and I need to order another one (If
>| I still can!). Both these bikes have some goofy carb set up, where the
>| carb is actually inside the engine case were the clutch should be.
Actually, for a two-stroke, this is not goofy at all. On 2strokes, the carbs
feed into the cases (below the cylinder) and fuel is pushed up
to the combustion chamber through transfer ports (this assumes a
twostroke where the piston is the "valve", not some of the
new hybrid two strokes that actually have separate valves).
Now to the reason that having the carb on the side of
the case is not goofy: On some models the outer flywheel weight
has a hole in it, through which the air/fuel mixture is ported, allowing
more precise timing of the blast of intake. Now, isnt that clever?
Larry
Joerg Settemeyer
Hi there,
it might be a KE 175. The carb is inside the engine, cause it is slot controled
(?)
In article <rldking-0608...@elysium4.magic.ca>, rld...@astral.magic.ca (Rob King) writes:
|>
|>
|> Hi fellow dirt riders.
|>
|>
|> My uncle's got an old beater Kawasaki dual sport bike and we can't figure
|> out what model it is. The serial number is unreadable and the information
|> on the front of the frame has worn off so you can't tell what year/model
|> it is. I do know it's 175cc's, it's got a black and grey paint, full
|> instrumentation, dual shocks, oil injection, and a two spark plug head.
|> He's also got a '71 350cc Kawasaki enduro bike which is simler to the 175.
|> I'd guess the bike is around a 70 to 75, but I need to know the model and
|> year because the throttle cable broke and I need to order another one (If
|> I still can!). Both these bikes have some goofy carb set up, where the
|> carb is actually inside the engine case were the clutch should be.
|>
|> Thanks
|>
|>
|>
|> Rob
|>
|>
|>
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|>
|> '93 DR 350 P #187
|> Rob King
|>
|> E-mail: rld...@astral.magic.ca
|> Oakville, Ontario
|> robert...@magicbbsont.Canada Canada
|>
|> !Hey Southern Ontario Off-road riders!
|> Check out: http://cgi.idirect.com/index//chorleyg.html |>
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Joerg Settemeyer
sep...@iastate.edu
Josh Harmon
Bev wrote:
> | I still can!). Both these bikes have some goofy carb set up, where the
> | carb is actually inside the engine case were the clutch should be.
>
> I had a 197x Kawasaki F7 with a 175 engine, carb inside the case, etc. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ok, I gotta bite. Why did they put the carb inside the case? How
accessible is it, and where does the air enter the carb?
Josh Harmon DoD#1137
96RMX
88GSX600
ml...@scvnet.com
@mhv.net wrote:
>Actually, for a two-stroke, this is not goofy at all. On 2strokes, the carbs
>feed into the cases (below the cylinder) and fuel is pushed up
>to the combustion chamber through transfer ports (this assumes a
>twostroke where the piston is the "valve", not some of the
>new hybrid two strokes that actually have separate valves).
>Now to the reason that having the carb on the side of
>the case is not goofy: On some models the outer flywheel weight
>has a hole in it, through which the air/fuel mixture is ported, allowing
>more precise timing of the blast of intake. Now, isnt that clever?
>Larry
>
Not the flywheel weight. These bikes had a separate disc valve that spun
in a tight housing. Some of them had a long intake tract that allowed
the carb to be put in the "conventional" position.
The main problem with disc valve engines was that the cases had to be
wider than piston-port engines. The advent of case-reed engines pretty
much killed the disc-valve.
George
ATVDSOT
In article <320A6E...@digisys.net>, Josh Harmon <jcha...@digisys.net>
wrote:
The F7 had a rotary valve intake. While the Rotax engines of today put the
carb up on top of the cases, in the old days they just stuck the carb
right on the intake. The airbox, as I remember, is where the carb would
normally be and a hose runs down to the carb.
The F7 was around from probably about '68 to '75, though don't hold me
exactly to the dates.
- Don
Jeffrey A. Miller
Josh Harmon wrote:
>
> Bev wrote:
>
> > | I still can!). Both these bikes have some goofy carb set up, where the
> > | carb is actually inside the engine case were the clutch should be.
> >
> > I had a 197x Kawasaki F7 with a 175 engine, carb inside the case, etc. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Ok, I gotta bite. Why did they put the carb inside the case? How
> accessible is it, and where does the air enter the carb?
>
> Josh Harmon DoD#1137
> 96RMX
> 88GSX600
Valve Motors. The carb was mounted opposite the ignition, and flowed
through a round disk attached to the crank shaft call a Rotary Valve. At
the time it worked very well, the fuel mixture went directly into the
crankcase, and allowed an extra transfer port in the back of the
clyinder. On a 1970 Kawasaki G4 100 with the dual range transmission
that I owned, the air filter was mounted atop the cases, behind the
cylinder. There was a small, easyily removable carb cover, and the air
actually flowed through a passage in the cases.
The F7 Model sound correct for an early 70's vintage Kawi, I dont thing
the KE models came out until the mid to late 70's
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SSmyers102
This thread started as discussion about a KE175 and migrated to a
discussion about rotary valves.
One of those "throwing out the baby with the bathwater" things though,
because the big advantage with the rotary valve engine was that fuel
timing could now be somewhat independant of piston position.
Ever ride a 1974 Can Am 250 ?? ever wonder what if felt like on the
enterprise when they went into warp speed and the ship stretched out like
a rubberband and went wooooshhhhhhhhh !!!!
Now imagine something twice as fast, with no brakes and no
suspension----LOL
Mark Klein
> Ever ride a 1974 Can Am 250 ?? ever wonder what if felt like on the
>enterprise when they went into warp speed and the ship stretched out like
>a rubberband and went wooooshhhhhhhhh !!!!
> Now imagine something twice as fast, with no brakes and no
>suspension----LOL
I raced one in the vintage nationals. The motor was box stock (ok, no
head gasket) and I could pull Maico 400's on looonnngg straightaways!
With Works Performance shocks, it would hook up better than some
modern bikes! I would race it at the local mx in the +30 class and
have holeshot a moto or two. Even trophied in the +30 class. It
actually had oretty good brakes, too. Thats one of my favorite
plaques- won the national at Ocala,FL in '93. Memories....
MX Tuner
SSmyers102
Boy it must have been great to race on of the Can- Ams . They are on the
short list of "must Haves"
If anybody cares, heres what I would like to have to round out my
collection:
1974 Can-Am 250
1975 KTM 400
19741/2 Maico 440
1974 Elsie with Don Emler 100cc kit
Hodaka 250 Thunderdog
1976/77 Suzuki RM370
1993 KTM 300 E/XC
1997 KTM R/XC
Any year KDX200
Any Year Yamaha IT175
Last but not least --- 1972 Honda CL360 converted for MX use to
run in vintage twin class ( will probably keep electric start) with
vintage Maico forks, Works Performance shocks, twin up pipes with
SuperTrapps, Plastic Tank, Ceet seat cover, white Acerbis plastic, and
proper gearing for MX (2nd Gear for starts and corners, , 3rd for long
straights.. (yes I have thought about this) will probably have to tuck the
front end in a bit for cornering....naaah, will have lots of weight on the
front wheel.
Would like to hear about your dream bikes ( we can dream, anyways)
See Ya
Mark Klein
Yeah, the Can Am was a blast. It got to where I would pull into the
pits and guys would shake their head like "oh, no". It was great!
If I get back into vintage, I would definitely get either a Penton 250
or 400. Its the closest thing to the Can Am but with alot better parts
availability.
I know where there is a certain sleeved down CR125 cylinder with FMF
engraved on the underneath side and one of the most beautiful porting
jobs I have ever seen. This might possibly be had for a price.......
MX Tuner
SSmyers102
Hmmmmm....... a sleeved CR125 Cylinder ? Could it be an FMF 100cc Elsie
?
Geez, all I would need is the pipe .........