AttackMX Scammer Revealed !!
sgou...@motocross.com
Phoenix and even though it was supposed to be a Novice Class race, it
seems everyone from ex-pro's to foreign competitors wanted a shot at
driving the top prizes home. Literally.
In a series that promised drama from the minute it was announced,
AttackMX officials simply stated "We want to help the sport of
motocross" and we believe them. We did realize there would be potential
issues with the AMA when the prize structure initially announced was
partly cash based.
Read the rest here:
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Also - from www.racerxill.com
February 15, 2005
Attack MX will DQ winner and give grand prize to runner-up
By Davey Coombs
Racer X broke the story yesterday that David Snow, the winner of the
$40,000 Ford F-350 pickup truck in the first-ever Attack MX race in
Arizona, was actually Alex Snow, a pro-caliber rider from Great
Britain who entered the 125cc Novice class for this high-profile race.
A positive ID was made of Alex Snow by several readers in England when
a photo of the Attack MX winner by Bobby Myers was posted on our
website.
Now, after following up with the information and speaking with several
parties—including the Snow family back in England and their hosts, the
Chatfields in Texas—Attack MX has asked that the truck be returned
immediately so that it can be awarded to the rightful winner, event
runner-up Nick Bussy of California. Short reiterated his company’s
pledge to be diligent in checking the backgrounds and qualifications
of all competitors at future Attack MX races. Attack MX also hopes the
truck is returned in brand-new condition in time to present to Bussy
at their next race, which is set for February 25-27 at Verde Valley
MotoPlex in Arizona. (For more information on that event, visit
www.attackmx.com.)
“Attack MX had bought a trailer to haul the truck from the dealership
to the event so that it would be brand-new, and they want it just like
that when we get it back to give to Nick Bussy,” said Short.
As for Snow, his father, David, expressed deep regret over the whole
situation when contacted at home in England. “I think it’s a bit of
naiveté on Alex’s part, and maybe as well as the others with him, but
boys will be boys, and we’re just really sad that it all happened like
this,” said Mr. Snow. “He’s a good boy, and he just wants to win. He
wanted to ride in America, and he had a deal to ride this one race.
I’m not sure he knew what he had gotten into, and we just want to set
the record straight.”
Mr. Snow also explained that the U.S. definition of what makes a rider
a “pro” is much different than what it is there. “We buy his bikes and
he gets no wages, and when he races for a little bit of prize money,
that’s really all he gets,” explained Mr. Snow. But he also explained
that Alex Snow is not a novice by any definition. “We really learned a
lesson, and we want to come back and do some more riding, maybe in the
fall. Only this time, we will make sure we have all of our facts
correct before we even leave the UK.
“We hadn’t done our homework, and we couldn’t believe it when Alex
texted us Sunday night at one in the morning and said, ‘Dad, I won a
pickup.’ We couldn’t believe it.” Mr. Snow stressed that Alex never
meant to keep the truck, that he was to give it to the people who got
him over to the U.S. in the first place. Now he fully expects the
truck to be handed to the rightful owner as soon as possible. “I
wouldn’t want Alex to have something that he did not deserve,” he
said. “We’re a little bit sad about it all, and the lad who finished
second deserves this prize.”
As for why Alex rode under the name David Snow, the father explained
that his son has a deal to race Suzukis in England this season and
that he did not want his sponsor to know he was riding a different
brand. Ironically, he later found out that it was not a problem to
ride a different brand outside the UK.
SC_Tom
<scrapeN...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On 16 Feb 2005 14:10:52 -0800, sgou...@motocross.com wrote:
>
> >The AttackMX race series held it's first event at Speedworld MX Park in
> >Phoenix and even though it was supposed to be a Novice Class race, it
> >seems everyone from ex-pro's to foreign competitors wanted a shot at
> >driving the top prizes home. Literally.
> >
> >In a series that promised drama from the minute it was announced,
> >AttackMX officials simply stated "We want to help the sport of
> >motocross" and we believe them. We did realize there would be potential
> >issues with the AMA when the prize structure initially announced was
> >partly cash based.
> >
> >
> >Read the rest here:
> >
> >http://www.motocross.com/story_2252.htm
>
> Also - from www.racerxill.com
>
> February 15, 2005
>
> Attack MX will DQ winner and give grand prize to runner-up
> By Davey Coombs
>
> Racer X broke the story yesterday that David Snow, the winner of the
> $40,000 Ford F-350 pickup truck in the first-ever Attack MX race in
> Arizona, was actually Alex Snow, a pro-caliber rider from Great
> Britain who entered the 125cc Novice class for this high-profile race.
> A positive ID was made of Alex Snow by several readers in England when
> a photo of the Attack MX winner by Bobby Myers was posted on our
> website.
>
> Now, after following up with the information and speaking with several
> Chatfields in Texas-Attack MX has asked that the truck be returned
Gee, I didn't know it was wrong to lie....
Tom
-jc
What a sandbaggin loser. Why can't folks compete at their own level? This
guys goes so far as to enter under another name ... what an idiot.
--
-Jeff
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-KTM200exc
....................... then again, what do I know.
sgou...@motocross.com
out.
And what the heck is the dealership helping him for anyway ??
dav...@mcihispeed.net
-jc wrote:
> What a sandbaggin loser. Why can't folks compete at their own level?
This
> guys goes so far as to enter under another name ... what an idiot.
The funny part is he only changed his first name. How hard was that to
track down?
david.
00 GasGas XC250
-jc
Darin
This taken from racerx.
The Attack MX Saga: The Mechanic Confesses!
By Bill Ursic; Kevin Kelly photos
Accusations have been swirling around like crazy regarding Alex “David”
Snow, the winner of the $40,000 Ford F-350 Dually last Sunday at the
first-ever Attack MX race last weekend. The British rider has been
called everything from a cheater to a sandbagger to a pawn in a bigger
scandal.
For those of you who aren’t familiar with Attack MX, last weekend they
held a race in Arizona limited to 125 Novice riders and offered a
remarkable $75,000 to the top 15 riders. The owners projected around one
thousand riders showing up, but the actual turnout was less than 70 for
the race, which included a $250 registration and license fee to
participate in the event.
Alex/David Snow is congratulated after his win
After all was said and done, “David” Snow came from behind to win by a
wheel-length over Nick Bussy, thus driving away with the brand-new
truck. After we posted pictures and results on racerxill.com, a few
online readers from England immediately got in contact with us to say
that David Snow is actually a top British youth prospect named Alex Snow
of South Molton, England. At first, this was just speculation, but with
some investigative journalism (and the help of a few British MX
websites), the truth emerged that the rider was indeed Pro-level UK
pilot Alex Snow.
Now, after following up with the information provided by Racer X and
speaking with several parties—including the Snow family back in England
and their hosts, the Chatfields in Texas—Attack MX has asked that the
truck be returned immediately so that it can be awarded to the rightful
winner, event runner-up Nick Bussy of California.
But what about Alex Snow? A naive rider just looking for a chance in
America who didn’t realize what he was doing, or a conspirator to
defraud Attack MX of their $40,000 prize? And what about his hosts here
in America, the Chatfield family—longtime friends who have been racing
within the U.S. system for years?
On Wednesday night, Kevin Kelly and David Izer of DMXSRadio.com
invited Racer X’s own Davey Coombs, who broke the story of Alex/David
Snow, and Attack MX’s Silver Fisher, on to the online radio show to
discuss what happened over the weekend, and the future of Attack MX.
The Attack MX win now belongs to Matt Bussy
“I’m happy with how the event went,” said Fisher during the live radio
show. “I still can’t believe what happened regarding David Snow, but I
want to give him the benefit of the doubt. Moving on, we just had a
meeting to discuss how we can get more prizes and help into the hands of
amateur riders. They want to race and compete. The more riders we get,
the more we’re going to give away.”
The DMXS crew then took a call from a surprise caller, a 35-year-old
from California. “Hi, my name is Donny Fish, and I’m Adam Chatfield’s
mechanic,” he began. “I’ve been working with Adam since the Mini O’s
last season, and I just wanted to say that I’m responsible for Alex’s
action here in the States. He came over last Sunday, and we’ve been
riding up in the hills in California. Anyways, I made the decision that
he should ride the Novice round. I even rode the race, as well. I’m the
one behind all of this. I put Alex in the terrible position, and I
really feel bad.”
After an awkward silence, the DMXS crew was stunned. “You know, Donny,
Adam Chatfield is on the chopping block for this,” said DMXS’s David Izer.
“I know he is, but it’s completely not his fault,” explained Fish. “And
the truck is actually mine. The deal was that if I helped him [Snow] out
and he won, it was going to be mine so I can use it to haul him and Adam
around to go practicing and racing. I just don’t know what to say. It
was my fault, 100 percent.”
So did Donny know what Alex’s background really was, or was this an
honest mistake? “I guess over there [in England], he raced the adult
class and did win money, but after watching him ride, I didn’t think he
was that fast,” said Fish. “We were going to ride the Intermediate
class, but I don’t’ think he was up to speed, so I decided to see how he
would do in the Novice class. But for it to turn out like this, I just
feel terrible.”
So why did they use a different name to sign him up? “Well, since he was
riding a Honda here, we didn’t want to risk putting his Suzuki contract
in jeopardy,” claimed Fish. “And I also thought it was a good idea to
use his middle name instead of his real name to sign up.”
What did Attack MX’s Silver Fisher, who was intently listening on the
other end, have to say about this? “Donny, everybody in this world has
been forgiven, nobody’s perfect, “ said Silver. “And there is nothing
personal against Adam. I embraced him. I love the kid. There is some
reconciliation that has to happen, but don’t take this on by yourself.
All I have to say is that there is a lot of grace for you. Don’t take
this burden on yourself.”
You could hear the empathy in his voice as Donny Fish replied,
“Honestly, I feel worse than anyone. I wish we could step back two
weeks. I apologize to everyone. To Attack MX, you guys have a great
thing going, and for me to mess it up, it was totally uncalled for.”
The next Attack MX race will offer $75,000 in prizes and X-Card money
next weekend at Valley Verde Raceway, also in Arizona. It will be for
Intermediate and 85cc riders. For more information, visit www.AttackMX.com.
Rex McKinney
but that he barely won over someone else that is suppose to be a "novice"
rider. Was this race full of sandbaggers?
Rex McKinney
dlevy
leave it to the class to figure that out.
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Darin
Rex McKinney wrote:
I know around here the 125 "C" class ALWAYS has the most riders. You can
read into that whatever you want. These upcoming attackmx events should
be very interesting.
Darin
Rex McKinney
"Darin" <sor...@work.com> wrote in message
>>
>
> I know around here the 125 "C" class ALWAYS has the most riders. You can
> read into that whatever you want. These upcoming attackmx events should be
> very interesting.
No doubt the most riders but how many of them can loose by a wheel to a
kid riding Pro back in England? The novice classes are pretty full around
here too running qualifiers at some events but the winning rider in a novice
class would get spanked in the pro class.
Rex McKinney
dlevy
would you jump out front and win by an rc margin?
The whole premise for this thing is dumb. You can't pay the novice class
and expect it to be novice. Duh.
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-keith
>The really interesting thing here is that Davey Coombs broke the story. I
>leave it to the class to figure that out.
Was it a Non-Coombs sanctioned event/race?
-k
'97 KTM300MXC, '99 BetaTechno
dlevy
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>>The really interesting thing here is that Davey Coombs broke the story. I
>>leave it to the class to figure that out.
>
>Was it a Non-Coombs sanctioned event/race?
It was non-Coombs. Some guy from the southwest was doing it.
scrapeN...@nc.rr.com
>Wait a minute....... if you were a pro sandbagging a race to win a truck
>would you jump out front and win by an rc margin?
>
>The whole premise for this thing is dumb. You can't pay the novice class
>and expect it to be novice. Duh.
I think it's cool that someone is upping the ante, but pretty damn
naive about a lot of things apparently.