Decals for Faith, Hope, or Charity?
Ken Durling
Malta. In 1/72 scale. Are/were there aftermarket decals?
Thanks
Ken Durling
IPMS NorCal
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Just Plane Crazy
Albatrosdv
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>
Well, since they didn't really exist in real life, why do you think there would
be decals of them?
The closest you can come is to pick up the Aeromaster 1/48 sheet for the
Gladiator and then do the one on that sheet out of your decal dungeon. All
that is is a Sea Gladiator that was allegedly at Malta in the summer of 1940.
The names were the invention of a British PR guy.
Tom Cleaver
Ken Durling
>would
>be decals of them?
>
>The closest you can come is to pick up the Aeromaster 1/48 sheet for the
>Gladiator and then do the one on that sheet out of your decal dungeon. All
>that is is a Sea Gladiator that was allegedly at Malta in the summer of 1940.
>
>The names were the invention of a British PR guy.
Really! Well, I stand corrected. Coulda sworn I saw a pic. Just goes to show
how dim the halls of memory become sometimes...
William H. Shuey
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> No no, I'm willing to pay for them - I mean for the Gladiators that held
>
> Thanks
> Ken Durling
> IPMS NorCal
> PPSEL
> Just Plane Crazy
>
> http://hometown.aol.com/kdur597268/myhomepage/profile.html
The Malta Gladiators were actually 6 Sea Gladiators left at Malta as
spares for the Royal Navy's Aircraft carriers. When the Malta Air
Cammander found himself facing a war with no fighter defense he borrowed
four of them to establish a "fighter flight". There is a good history of
the siege of Malta, published in England by Grub Street and in the U.S.
by Squadron Press. The Authors were Chris Shores, Brian Cull and Nicola
Malizia. It's a good history of the siege in two volumes. The first is
"Malta, the Hurricane Years" and the second is "Malta, the Spitfire
Year". Then there is "Faith, Hope and Charity" by Kenneth Pooleman,
published by Kimber.
As far as I know there is only one picture in existance that
shows the markings of one of the Malta Sea Gladiators. It's markings are
covered in the Aero Master 1/48 Gladiator sheet, which one of the other
respondents mentioned.
Bill Shuey
Ken Durling
>Cammander found himself facing a war with no fighter defense he borrowed
>four of them to establish a "fighter flight". There is a good history of
>the siege of Malta, published in England by Grub Street and in the U.S.
>by Squadron Press. The Authors were Chris Shores, Brian Cull and Nicola
>Malizia. It's a good history of the siege in two volumes. The first is
>"Malta, the Hurricane Years" and the second is "Malta, the Spitfire
>Year". Then there is "Faith, Hope and Charity" by Kenneth Pooleman,
>published by Kimber.
> As far as I know there is only one picture in existance that
>shows the markings of one of the Malta Sea Gladiators. It's markings are
>covered in the Aero Master 1/48 Gladiator sheet, which one of the other
>respondents mentioned.
Ah, thank you, Bill. Now that brings the story back into focus. It's that one
picture that I must have seen, and I must have it around here somewhere.
I just pulled out my Heller Gladiator last night, and it's such a lovely little
kit that I thought I'd move closer to the top of the build list and build it as
a Malta Gladiator, as I seem to remember that is quite a story. I also
remember a sort of corny war-cum-love story movie about Malta, too. What was
it called . . . ?
Ken
Sten Ekedahl
Story" made in the UK in 1953, directed by Brian Desmond Hurst. Alec Guinnes
plays the leading character of a quiet Spitfire recce pilot. Supporting
actors are among others Jack Hawkins. Anthony Steele and Muriel Pavlov. It
is surely not an award-winning move but very interesting as aviation history
since they used a lot of actual footage from the war, e.g. Spitfire V's
taking off, Beauforts, Wellingtons, etc.. However this mixture of authentic
and post-war footage creates some silly effects, for example the Spitfire
squadron takes off in Mk V's and when in the air they are flying F.24's.
Some non-aviation related authentic footage is also of interest, like when
the very severely damaged tanker OHIO enters Valetta harbour with 2 inches
of free-board, saving the the virtually depleted fuel stocks on Malta.
Sten Ekedahl
IPMS Sweden #071
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Tom Cervo
>little
>kit that I thought I'd move closer to the top of the build list and build it
>as
>a Malta Gladiator, as I seem to remember that is quite a story.
I think the Heller Glad is in the markings of 263 Squadron during the Norway
campaign. You can look up THEIR story in the Gladiator profile, or the
MacDonald Gladiator monograph, or "Fledging Eagles" by Grub Street. There is no
dispute about the story, and it's surely the most gallant fight of the
Gladiator's history.
Ken Durling
>campaign. You can look up THEIR story in the Gladiator profile, or the
>MacDonald Gladiator monograph, or "Fledging Eagles" by Grub Street. There is
>no
>dispute about the story, and it's surely the most gallant fight of the
>Gladiator's history.
Thanks Tom - great to have a lead on another "lesser known" chapter of the
war's history.
Les Pickstock
albat...@aol.com (Albatrosdv) wrote:
>
> Well, since they didn't really exist in real life, why do you think
there would
> be decals of them?
I think you should read some of the excellent books on the role of
Malta during WWII. Not only did these aircraft exist but performed
Stirling service in the defense of the island. The trio of Gladiators
that were eventually christened "Faith,Hope and Charity" were the remnants
of 12 Sea Gladiators that were put ashore from H.M.S. GLORIUS and were to
be shipped back to the U.K. in crates. Naval personel opened the crates
and reassembled 4 of the aircraft by combining parts from all of them.
It is said that the Admiralty was very displeased that Naval aircraft were
placed in the hands of the RAF.
The remains of 1 of these aircraft is on display in a musem on Malta.
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Les Pickstock Son of Fun and Triumph Herald owner.
"I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy!" Tom Waites
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hol...@ibm.net
> Well, since they didn't really exist in real life, why do you think there would
> be decals of them?
Steady on, old chap.
My Father worked on them in Malta in late 1940. The Faith, Hope and
Charity monikers came later but the Gladiators (and one short-lived
'Bleriator') were there alright.
Best wishes,
Guy Holroyd
Richa5011
'Bleriator')<<
Shores et al mention this aircraft in their book Malta the Hurricane Years. By
combining the fuselage, tail undercart, etc., of a wrecked Gladiator with the
engine and cowling of a Blenhiem and the wings of a Swordfish...the local
enginering officer created this one off aircraft. Apparently it was destroyed
on the ground before anyone had a chance to fly it (probably much to the relief
of the test pilot<VBG>).
The above mentioned book is great reading and gives a pretty good account of
the early days of the siege of Malta, in which the Gladiators played an
important role.
Nat Richards
James B
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>>>(and one short-lived
>'Bleriator')<<
>
>Shores et al mention this aircraft in their book Malta the Hurricane Years. By
>combining the fuselage, tail undercart, etc., of a wrecked Gladiator with the
>engine and cowling of a Blenhiem and the wings of a Swordfish...the local
>enginering officer created this one off aircraft. Apparently it was destroyed
>on the ground before anyone had a chance to fly it (probably much to the relief
>of the test pilot<VBG>).
>
Now, that's interesting! Just by coincidence, today I was flipping throught the
old Gladiator Profile (#98) and on page ten there's a pair of photos of Sea
Gladiators based on Malta. One of them "shows a Sea Gladiator fitted with an
ex-Blenheim Mercury engine and Hamilton propeller." This one seems to have the
proper wing, so must not be the same one.... FWIW, there's an Imperial War
Museum photo negative reference no. for these two pics, Nos. MH3992 and
ZZZ3915E, if anyone cares.
James B
Rosemary & Chris Hayward
>
> >I just pulled out my Heller Gladiator last night, and it's such a lovely
> >little
> >kit that I thought I'd move closer to the top of the build list and build it
> >as
> >a Malta Gladiator, as I seem to remember that is quite a story.
>
Yes, but on return to England they converted to the Westland Whirlwind
Fighter.
Regards Chris. ( Whirlwind MK1 rules O.K.) :-)
Antonio Maraziti
I just found an interesting web page on the siege of Malta.
It might be of some interest to you...
http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/iwai/malta.html
There are also some interesting pictures (no Gladiators,
unfortunately):
http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/iwai/maltapic.html
The site is about Italian Air Force but it's in English.
Antonio
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Adrian Warburton, a Maryland pilot based in Malta who shot down 10 enemy aircraft
in air to air combat, and there was an additional reference to a Maryland devoted
to nightfighting duties.
Daniel
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Richa5011 wrote:
> >>(and one short-lived
> 'Bleriator')<<
>
> Shores et al mention this aircraft in their book Malta the Hurricane Years. By
> combining the fuselage, tail undercart, etc., of a wrecked Gladiator with the
> engine and cowling of a Blenhiem and the wings of a Swordfish...the local
> enginering officer created this one off aircraft. Apparently it was destroyed
> on the ground before anyone had a chance to fly it (probably much to the relief
> of the test pilot<VBG>).
>
jthm...@aracnet.net
kdur5...@aol.com (Ken Durling) wrote:
> No no, I'm willing to pay for them - I mean for the Gladiators that
held
> Malta. In 1/72 scale. Are/were there aftermarket decals?
>
> Thanks
> IPMS NorCal
> PPSEL
> Just Plane Crazy
>
> http://hometown.aol.com/kdur597268/myhomepage/profile.html
>
Ken -
You might want to check:
http://www.faasig.org/colors/malta.htm
if you haven't already. Excellent website for FAA information!
John Thompson
Ken Durling
>
>http://www.faasig.org/colors/malta.htm
>
>if you haven't already. Excellent website for FAA information!
>
John -
Thanks very much! Just knowing they were probably de-navalised is quite a leg
up!
Appreciate the link.