Klingon Bird of Prey-painting
John Stealey
Has anyone tried painting their BoP pale green? That seems alittle too
green to me. What are some other greens that have had good results? What
about British green? what about a metallic green with a black or gray
wash? The instructions suggest using a black wash over the entire model,
but I still think pale green is too bright. Any body else used pale green
and how did it turn out?
Also, what color is DS9? the show has the space station as kind of a grey
and the box has it as a sand brown color, what's correct?
thanks for any help,
john stealey
John Douglass
John,
For painting Klingon ships I'm kinda fond of FS 34079 Dark Green or
FS 34092 European I Dark Green with blotches of FS 34227 Pale Green.
The black wash does a magnificent job of toning-down the brightness
AND blending together the greens. This is the way I'm painting the
Klingon Frigate I'm taking to ScaleFest this coming weekend.
As for DS9, as anybody will tell you concerning Star Trek stuff, paint
it the way it looks, NOT necessarily the way the original sfx was
painted. To me it looks METAL. If you can figure out a way to make
Cardassian Tan look like metal, that would be ideal!
Hope this helps...
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The pale green for th Bird-of-Prey is correct. I have seen a lot of
episodes for research when I built mine, and the green really stands out.
DS9 is the sand brown color on the box. The lighting on the show does not
do it too much justice. Then again, the picture on the box is not
weathered or detailed in any way.
-Brad
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I found Olive Drap to be perfect for that small Klingon Bird of Pray, and it's
looks a LOT better if you do some dry-brushing in gray.
As for DS9, I really think it looks light tan, but I didn't want to paint it Dark
Tan or Wood, because on the side of the box it looked really ugly. So I opted for
Gloss Brown, which was MUCH worse. Once I put a layer of DULLCOTE, it looked a lot
better. Actually, it looks suprisingly good. Though John also has a point, doing
it a dark gray or something could work also. It's a hard call to make. If you
have an airbrush then your choices are much larger since you could mix your own
perfect blend, but if your stuck with spray cans, then there is nothing between
Dark Tan/Wood and Gloss Brown. Oh well.
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Troy Downen
John Stealey <ste...@nr.infi.net> wrote:
>Has anyone tried painting their BoP pale green? That seems alittle too
>green to me.
The pale green is a very good match for all the reference pictures I
can find of the BOP. If you want to see what the BOP looks like with
a painting as per the instructions, take a look at the Modeler's Home
Page at:
in the Photo Gallery section. That BOP was finished according to the
instructions, and then washed with burnt sienna oils.
--Troy
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Dominique Durocher
In article <4m5ief$s...@nw002.infi.net>, John Stealey <ste...@nr.infi.net>
wrote:
> Has anyone tried painting their BoP pale green? That seems alittle too
> green to me. What are some other greens that have had good results? What
> about British green? what about a metallic green with a black or gray
> wash? The instructions suggest using a black wash over the entire model,
> but I still think pale green is too bright. Any body else used pale green
> and how did it turn out?
I'll have to recheck what that pale green is, but, as I recall, it may
seem a little light. Do what looks best to you.
> Also, what color is DS9? the show has the space station as kind of a grey
> and the box has it as a sand brown color, what's correct?
The box top is the shooting model, it's as good a source as you'l find.
The model built for the box sides is completely off, ignore it.
Dom
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John Stealey (ste...@nr.infi.net) wrote:
: Has anyone tried painting their BoP pale green? That seems alittle too
: green to me. What are some other greens that have had good results? What
: about British green? what about a metallic green with a black or gray
: wash? The instructions suggest using a black wash over the entire model,
: but I still think pale green is too bright. Any body else used pale green
: and how did it turn out?
: Also, what color is DS9? the show has the space station as kind of a grey
: and the box has it as a sand brown color, what's correct?
: thanks for any help,
: john stealey
: ste...@nr.nifi.net
DS9 is purple.
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Dominique Durocher
> I painted DS9 using Tamiya Gloss Aluminium (TS17) oversprayed with
"Smoke" (PS31) to darken the overall colour. This also gives it a "battle
scarred" finish if you are too heavy in places with the smoke! The picture
on the box is obviously wrong qv the opening sequence of each episode.
That depends which picture you mean. The one on the box top *is* the
shooting model. It's the largest available picture (actually, I think
there may be a poster as well, but it's the same picture) and the standard
beauty shot most often published. There can be no better reference than
the box top.
The built model on the side of the box, on the other hand, is completely off.
ro...@primenet.com
dra...@odyssee.net (Dominique Durocher) wrote:
>In article <4m5ief$s...@nw002.infi.net>, John Stealey <ste...@nr.infi.net>
>wrote:
>> Has anyone tried painting their BoP pale green? That seems alittle too
>> green to me. What are some other greens that have had good results? What
>> about British green? what about a metallic green with a black or gray
>> wash? The instructions suggest using a black wash over the entire model,
>> but I still think pale green is too bright. Any body else used pale green
>> and how did it turn out?
I hate to add a question to a question but since this is a subject of
Klingon spacecraft painting. I need to find out what the color is for
a Klingon Battle Cruiser of the 'Kirk' era. Best I can figure out it
looks alot like a very blue grey. I almost used some old Panzer grey
but it seems too dark. Any Ideas ??????
Thanx
Robb
David Sare
> I hate to add a question to a question but since this is a subject of
> Klingon spacecraft painting. I need to find out what the color is for
> a Klingon Battle Cruiser of the 'Kirk' era. Best I can figure out it
> looks alot like a very blue grey. I almost used some old Panzer grey
> but it seems too dark. Any Ideas ??????
>
> Thanx
> Robb
Robb,
Have you looked at Testor's 'Intermediate Blue'? I painted a small Cruiser
Gunship Gray. It's a little too dark, so I thought Intermediate Blue would
be a little lighter and a little bluer.
Dave
Dominique Durocher
> I hate to add a question to a question but since this is a subject of
> Klingon spacecraft painting. I need to find out what the color is for
> a Klingon Battle Cruiser of the 'Kirk' era. Best I can figure out it
> looks alot like a very blue grey. I almost used some old Panzer grey
> but it seems too dark. Any Ideas ??????
Bluish grays is close. The instructions for the current release mention
three shades: FS36307, FS36440, and FS36022. It seems it actually has
three shades, but the accuracy of the choices is unknown to me. I'm
building one almost straight (opening impulse) and another updated halfway
from original to movie configuration (movie style impulse engines, lighted
warp engines and simpler plating job).
James A. Crews
ro...@primenet.com wrote:
>
> dra...@odyssee.net (Dominique Durocher) wrote:
>
> >In article <4m5ief$s...@nw002.infi.net>, John Stealey <ste...@nr.infi.net>
> >wrote:
>
> >> Has anyone tried painting their BoP pale green? That seems alittle too
> >> green to me. What are some other greens that have had good results? What
> >> about British green? what about a metallic green with a black or gray
> >> wash? The instructions suggest using a black wash over the entire model,
> >> but I still think pale green is too bright. Any body else used pale green
> >> and how did it turn out?
>
> Klingon spacecraft painting. I need to find out what the color is for
> a Klingon Battle Cruiser of the 'Kirk' era. Best I can figure out it
> looks alot like a very blue grey. I almost used some old Panzer grey
> but it seems too dark. Any Ideas ??????
>
> RobbThe pail green is the appropriate color. A photo of the original ILM
model apprears in "The Art of Star Trek." It also shows the massive
amounts of weathering that were done to the model itself, which makes
it look darker than the plain "pale green" base color. Look for this
book at Walden Books or your nearest bookstore. And by the way, it also
has a picture of a representative model of an original Klingon
Battlecrusier. I just restored one original issue KBC and used Model
Master Dark Ghost gray, which was the closest thing I could come to with
the reference photo (from the aforementioned book as well). The model
had a "blue gray color on the series due to the different lighting (how
many tints of the Enterprise did you see in your years of watching the
series?). The original box art showed a blue color, but according to
references, Matt Jefferies used an overall gray for the first model.
Contact Niche Marketing (or better known as the Dark Empire, P.O Box
15553, New Orleans, LA 70175-5553). They carry original Starship Grey,
Starship Blue, and Battlecruiser Green. Their email is nmi...@aol.com
and ask to speak to Charles Many.
V/R
Tony Crews
Roger Sorensen
> ...I need to find out what the color is for
> a Klingon Battle Cruiser of the 'Kirk' era. Best I can figure out it
> looks alot like a very blue grey. I almost used some old Panzer grey
> but it seems too dark. Any Ideas ??????
>
> Thanx
> Robb
Anyone remember those "Giant Poster/books" that were published many years ago? At
one time I had a copy of one of the ST issues which reported on the Smithsonian's
acquisition of the original Trek models - and it included a bee-yoo-tee-full photo
of the original Klingon model. As I recall (an iffy proposition!), the color was a
slightly greenish neutral gray on the neck & aft body, and a slightly darker or
greener grey on the head. Then again, that may have been the lighting. If anyone
has this publication in their archive, it's worth checking.
Roger Sorensen
rsor...@csbsju.edu
Lonnie Misner
In article <draken-1405961312070001@pool2_1.odyssee.net>, dra...@odyssee.net
says...
>> a Klingon Battle Cruiser of the 'Kirk' era. Best I can figure out it
>> looks alot like a very blue grey. I almost used some old Panzer grey
>> but it seems too dark. Any Ideas ??????
>
>
gray with brick red and dark gray deflector panels. Even more interesting is
the photo-etched brass adorning the bridge and forward part of the ship. The
neck also has the raised squares along either side done in what looks like gold
leaf, but could be painted gold. One piece of trivia, Greg Gien stated that
the original Klingon battle cruiser was done in two shades of purple in a Shamu
style pattern! FWIW.
Hope this helps,
Lonnie Misner
atiberi
i seem to recall the original minatures were shot with a blue background
board under intense lighting. while the model may appaer dull metal/gray
it was probably darker. This effect is quite evident when original
uniforms are on display; engineering red while quite bright is acutually
a deep dull red, almost burgundy. good luck, al
Dominique Durocher
In article <4nnoc8$g...@chaos.dac.neu.edu>, atiberi
<ati...@emerald.tufts.edu> wrote:
This is the typical blue screen technique for matting models into shots.
Possibly because of this, models often lose a lot of blue from their
original colors to their screen appearance. This is why TIE figters look
almost white when they're a pretty dark blue-gray.