[CAR] '34 Ford pickup colors
Jim McKim
includes options for a tow truck, stake bed, or street rod versions. I'm going
to build a stocker and finish it as working truck, though I haven't yet decided
whether to use the regular box or go with the stake bed. Anyway, I'm at the
point of being ready to paint subassemblies and I'm trying to determine the
correct colors for the following:
Body - factory color coices? (though as a commercial vehicle, any vintage color
goes)
Underhood - inner fender panels, firewall, hood underside
Interior - cab interior roof (headliner?) & doors
Dash - maybe same as '34 Ford cars?
Chassis - pretty sure this should be black, probably semi-gloss new, flat old &
dirty
Wheels (wirespoke) - ?? same trim color options as cars, maybe?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I prefer e-mail responses and will be
glad to post a response summary. My e-mail address is mc...@p-d-g.com
TIA
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AAMRESIN
>to build a stocker and finish it as working truck, though I haven't yet
>decided
>whether to use the regular box or go with the stake bed. Anyway, I'm at the
>point of being ready to paint subassemblies and I'm trying to determine the
>correct colors for the following:
>
>Body - factory color coices? (though as a commercial vehicle, any vintage
>color
>goes)
>Underhood - inner fender panels, firewall, hood underside
>Interior - cab interior roof (headliner?) & doors
>Dash - maybe same as '34 Ford cars?
>Chassis - pretty sure this should be black, probably semi-gloss new, flat old
>&
>dirty
>Wheels (wirespoke) - ?? same trim color options as cars, maybe?
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated. I prefer e-mail responses and will be
>glad to post a response summary. My e-mail address is mc...@p-d-g.com
Jim,
My reference book on Ford Commercials is loaned out to another modeler at
the moment, but here goes (from memory)
34 Ford commercial paint colors:
Standard paint called for black fenders and splash aprons.
body colors--Cab & Bed
Black, Gray, Dark Blue, Vermillion (Red), Yellow.
Other colors could be had as a special order.
Wheels were almost always black, as were the tires.
Ford Chassis is semi-gloss black overall, with the engine in dark green.
BTW, most modelers are not aware that Ford pickup beds from 1931-51 had NO
exposed wood in the floor. Ford covered the wood flooring with sheet metal
pressed to give the effect of skid strips.
As for the choice of beds, the "stake body" in the 34 Ford pickup body was a
"street rod" addition to the tooling in the 1970's. Ford did not offer a
1/2-ton stake body for the pickup chassis until 1937.
Art Anderson
Brooks Moses
> BTW, most modelers are not aware that Ford pickup beds from 1931-51 had NO
> exposed wood in the floor. Ford covered the wood flooring with sheet metal
> pressed to give the effect of skid strips.
Did this sheet metal also have woodgrain pressed into it, or is the
woodgrain in the Lindberg '34 Ford bed incorrect? If it is incorrect,
any advice for how best to remove it?
Thanks,
- Brooks
Brooks Moses
Hmm. Actually, the Monogram '50 Ford has woodgrain in it as well, if
memory serves true. I wonder if they are _all_ incorrect.... Art?
Anyone?
- Brooks
John Mathieson
AAMRESIN
>Hmm. Actually, the Monogram '50 Ford has woodgrain in it as well, if
>memory serves true. I wonder if they are _all_ incorrect.... Art?
>Anyone?
>
>- Brooks
Brooks,
If a late 1931 to 1951 Ford pickup has exposed wood in the bed floor, yes,
it is incorrect, according to Ford Flathead V8 pickup expert, Mack Hills
(Hills makes reproduction sheet metal, including beds, and has published a very
good reference book on these years of Ford pickups)
Now, why the woodgrain in the various model kit pickup beds? Simple. The
sheetmetal floors rusted out, and many owners and "restorers" did not replace
it when redoing the box. Lee Baker and I attended the "Early Ford V8 Meet" at
Dearborn in July, saw a number of pickups of this era--guess what? Sheet metal
bed floors--judged to be factory correct.
Art Anderson
John Mathieson
Art:
How about the 37 1/2 ton stake? Does it have a wood or metal
floor?
John Mathieson
AAMRESIN
> How about the 37 1/2 ton stake? Does it have a wood or metal
>floor?
>John Mathieson
>
John,
The sheet-metal floors for Ford trucks were only in the pickups. The
platform stake bodies all had conventional oak planking, with separate steel
skid strips.
Art Anderson
AAMRESIN
>I'm working on a 1/24 scale Lindberg kit of a 1934 Ford pickup, the one that
>going
>to build a stocker and finish it as working truck, though I haven't yet
>decided
>whether to use the regular box or go with the stake bed. Anyway, I'm at the
>point of being ready to paint subassemblies and I'm trying to determine the
>correct colors for the following:
>
>Body - factory color coices? (though as a commercial vehicle, any vintage
>color
>goes)
>Underhood - inner fender panels, firewall, hood underside
>Interior - cab interior roof (headliner?) & doors
>Dash - maybe same as '34 Ford cars?
>Chassis - pretty sure this should be black, probably semi-gloss new, flat old
>&
>dirty
>Wheels (wirespoke) - ?? same trim color options as cars, maybe?
>Jim McKim
Jim,
Here is a further clarification of 1934 Ford Commerical Car (truck) colors:
(From Ford Factory Sales Brochure)
Standard Truck Colors:
Vermillion Red (dark red)
Mountain Brown (a chocolate brown)
Golden Orange (a yellow-orange)
Blue Rock Green (a dark, blue-green)
Standard Passenger Car Colors (available in
trucks):
Duncan Blue (a medium-dark blue, dusty in
character)
Coach Maroon
Old Chester Gray (a "battleship gray" shade)
Black
Fenders, running boards and splash aprons were black (standard)
Any combination of the above colors up to three colors was available at no
additional cost.
Wheels came from the factory painted black only. (Dealers likely painted them
other colors if the customer requested)
Interesting note:
Ford did not "polish" the paint on trucks and commerical vehicles, unless the
customer ordered it, then at extra cost.
Hope this helps!
Art Anderson