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Raymond A. Morrissey

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Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
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A question for all you UK modelers out there. Many modeling how to
books and articles from England refer to plasticine. Aside from the
Beatles song I've never heard of it. Can anyone tell me what it is
and if there is a US equivalent. Thanks.

Frank Henriquez

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Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
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Plasticene *is* the US equivalent! I had brick of it as a kid. Over here
it's known as "modelling clay". Plasticene may be the name of the material
or the trademark of an oil based non-drying clay. The stuff has many uses!
I use it as either noseweights for airplanes (with or without embedded
lead shot) as a convenient moldable material to hold small parts for
painting, as a mold wall, etc. You should be able to find the stuff in
just about any arts store or even toy store.

Even though it's oil based, I've never had it seep out of a model. My
oldest model with a plasticene "nose job" weight is 10 years old, painted
with acrylic. Still looks great.

Frank

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Marc Bourque

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Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
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Raymond ,

The US equivalent is....... plasticine, available at most art stores. It's a
clay-like putty similar to play-dough but with a finer grain and available
in many colors. It's used by artists mostly as a reusable sculpting medium.

Marc.

Mike

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Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
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Raymond A. Morrissey wrote:
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> A question for all you UK modelers out there. Many modeling how to
> books and articles from England refer to plasticine. Aside from the
> Beatles song I've never heard of it. Can anyone tell me what it is
> and if there is a US equivalent. Thanks.

Man, you must have led a deprived childhood! You've never played with
plasticine as kid or made claymation movies of dinosaurs or naked well
endowed women in highschool?;)
Up here plasticine is available in most toy stores, craft store, hobby
shops and even some hardware stores. I know it available in the US
because I was just talking to someone from New York about using it as a
ballast for models. Play-Do may be a commercial name for it but I'm not
sure if it's the same stuff.

--
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Steve Bamford

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Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
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Play-doh is not he same as plasticine. Play-doh is non-toxic water based
stuff that dries out if left in the open. Plasticine is oil based and will
not dry out. Play-doh can be rehydrated to prolong it's life. I know all
this because my 3 year old and I have been huge play-doh fans for a year or
two now. And yes...Daddy gets the fun job of re-hydrating the stuff.
GROAN!!!

Steve Bamford
Rama Lama Do Dah Day
Official Temple Historian
Grand Creator of :-ş on RMS
Northern Temple
Canada

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CSRZ28

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Jun 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/24/99
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Mike wrote:
>Up here plasticine is available in most toy stores, craft store, hobby
>shops and even some hardware stores. I know it available in the US
>because I was just talking to someone from New York about using it as a
>ballast for models. Play-Do may be a commercial name for it but I'm not
>sure if it's the same stuff.
>
>--
>Mike Dougherty

Heres another one for you Mike, I have a package of plasticine (made by a co.
in Bathampton, Bath, England, named Harbutt, the creators of the stuff).
It came with a 'Miniature Model Motorng Construction Set' with 10 snap fit
autos. The scale is about HO and the kits range from 1899 Renault, to1904
Mercedes to a 1929 Bugatti type 35.
Have you any info on these?
Chuck Ryan

Ron Smith

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Jun 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/24/99
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Mike wrote:

> Man, you must have led a deprived childhood! You've never played with
> plasticine as kid or made claymation movies of dinosaurs or naked well
> endowed women in highschool?;)

> Up here plasticine is available in most toy stores, craft store, hobby
> shops and even some hardware stores. I know it available in the US
> because I was just talking to someone from New York about using it as a
> ballast for models. Play-Do may be a commercial name for it but I'm not
> sure if it's the same stuff.

Play-Doh is something else.........plasticine was usually just called
clay by kids.

Ron Smith
Rama Lama Whome Nawnotme
Temple of the Chartreaux, Hitchcockwise of the Pustule of Political
Sillyness
Maker of the Mysterious Black Boxes and Bender of the Sacred Tron Guides

CaptCBoard

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Jun 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/24/99
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Plasticine is a generic name for any kind of oil-based clay that remains
pliable. One brand I use is Leisure Clay. It comes in 5 pound blocks and
smaller 'sticks', in a zillion different colors. Finer grades of plasticine
are called 'Plastilina' (I may have the spelling on that wrong, though) and
come in various grades of hardness. One popular brand of this is Roma Clay.
This is preferred by sculptors because of the amount of detail possible, and
the fact it remains pliable. Plastilina usually contains sulfur, and as such
should not be used with RTV rubber because of the way sulfur inhibits the cure
of the rubber. It can be used safely if a 'barrier' is applied, such as Krylon
Crystal Clear. Plasticine usually does not contain sulfur and will not effect
the curing of RTV. Another interesting use for Plasticine is making
'temporary' molds. You can press a flat object into it to create a cavity into
which you can pour urethane resin. After it cures, a small amount of clay will
stick to it when you pull the casting out, but the clay cleans right off.


Scott
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Mike

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Jun 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/24/99
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CSRZ28 wrote:
>

> It came with a 'Miniature Model Motorng Construction Set' with 10 snap fit
> autos. The scale is about HO and the kits range from 1899 Renault, to1904
> Mercedes to a 1929 Bugatti type 35.
> Have you any info on these?

Nope. Never heard of them. But I do know about Mr. Bill! "Oh no! Mr.
bill!";)

Ron Smith

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Jun 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/24/99
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Steve Bamford wrote:
>
> Play-doh is not he same as plasticine. Play-doh is non-toxic water based
> stuff that dries out if left in the open. Plasticine is oil based and will
> not dry out. Play-doh can be rehydrated to prolong it's life. I know all
> this because my 3 year old and I have been huge play-doh fans for a year or
> two now. And yes...Daddy gets the fun job of re-hydrating the stuff.
> GROAN!!!

Hey daddy, here's a Play Doh hint........when it needs rehydrating, put
the can of PD (open of course) in a coffee can, put water in the bottom
of the coffee can and replace the lid. In a couple of days check the
PD, it should be just fine now.

Wayne C. Morris

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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CaptCBoard <captc...@aol.comXBLAHX> wrote:

> Plasticine is a generic name for any kind of oil-based clay that remains
> pliable. One brand I use is Leisure Clay.

No, Plasticine is a specific brand name. I checked an old Sax Arts &
Crafts catalog, and there's a registered-trademark symbol next to the
product name.

The generic term is "non-hardening modeling clay".

CaptCBoard

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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<<No, Plasticine is a specific brand name. I checked an old Sax Arts &
Crafts catalog, and there's a registered-trademark symbol next to the
product name.

The generic term is "non-hardening modeling clay".>>

Oh, SURE-- Look things up in a catalog!! And an old one at that! Plasticine
may be a registered trademark, but its use has fallen into the common
venacular, much like Kleenex has come to mean facial tissue, no matter what the
brand, or Xerox for photocopies.

"Don't get technical with me, you overweight glob of grease!" C-3PO in STAR
WARS (1977)

Tim Brimelow

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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In Australia we never get a Xerox, we get a photocopy. Kleenex is an
American term as well, we just ask for a tissue (usually after saying
atissue!).

One brand name I use a lot in Australia is "hoovering". Everyone thinks I 'm
weird because most people say vacuuming. It must be the English in me.

BTW why do Americans call their mobiles "cell phones"?

Tim Brimelow.

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Mike

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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Tim Brimelow wrote:

> BTW why do Americans call their mobiles "cell phones"?

Cellular phones. Even if they are not in all cases. The same as Xerox or
Kleenex except for that it's not a brand name.

DManton300

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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In article <Q2Hc3.681$vP....@ozemail.com.au>, "Tim Brimelow"
<xia...@ozemail.com.au> writes:

>BTW why do Americans call their mobiles "cell phones"?
>

Something to do with the way mobile phone transmitters are set up to cover a
"cell" each- each cell has it's own ID code i would imagine- something like
dividing a country by grid references. Think thats it in very basic terms, but
any phone engineers will doubtless fill you in on it!
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Drewe
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In a citizen of the world
Than the pride that divides
When a colourful rag is unfurled"

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Ron Smith

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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DManton300 wrote:
>
> In article <Q2Hc3.681$vP....@ozemail.com.au>, "Tim Brimelow"
> <xia...@ozemail.com.au> writes:
>
> >BTW why do Americans call their mobiles "cell phones"?
> >
>
> Something to do with the way mobile phone transmitters are set up to cover a
> "cell" each- each cell has it's own ID code i would imagine- something like
> dividing a country by grid references. Think thats it in very basic terms, but
> any phone engineers will doubtless fill you in on it!

Sort of, the repeater stations are what makes the "cells" and the phones
have very low powered transmitters making lots of repeaters neccessary.
True mobile phones have more powerful transmitters but require an
amateur radio operator's license and can use HAM repeaters unlike cell
phones. Cells are more like dividing a city into a honeycomb.

Steve Bamford

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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Thanks for the tip Ron....now if I can just find a coffee can in
Canada.......we're all tea drinkers up here :-) huuummmm I'll have to look
around for a jar with a lid....

Steve Bamford
Rama Lama Do Dah Day
Official Temple Historian
Grand Creator of :-ş on RMS
Northern Temple
Canada

Ron Smith wrote in message <3772532A...@dalhraidia.org>...


>
>
>Steve Bamford wrote:
>>
>> Play-doh is not he same as plasticine. Play-doh is non-toxic water based
>> stuff that dries out if left in the open. Plasticine is oil based and
will
>> not dry out. Play-doh can be rehydrated to prolong it's life. I know
all
>> this because my 3 year old and I have been huge play-doh fans for a year
or
>> two now. And yes...Daddy gets the fun job of re-hydrating the stuff.
>> GROAN!!!
>
>Hey daddy, here's a Play Doh hint........when it needs rehydrating, put
>the can of PD (open of course) in a coffee can, put water in the bottom
>of the coffee can and replace the lid. In a couple of days check the
>PD, it should be just fine now.
>

peter frearson

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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It is simply modelling clay.
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Ron Smith

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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Steve Bamford wrote:
>
> Thanks for the tip Ron....now if I can just find a coffee can in
> Canada.......we're all tea drinkers up here :-) huuummmm I'll have to look
> around for a jar with a lid....

You're welcome Steve......but you lie about Canadians only drinking
tea......all the Canadians I know personally drink coffee......but then
they do travel down here a couple times a year, maybe we've corrupted
them.......:)

Steve Bamford

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Jun 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/26/99
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I drank a couple of cups of coffee tonight at work (I'm a tea
drinker....coffee keeps me awake)...and here I sit at 2am wide awake...and
the worst part is my 3 year old will want me to get up when she does at
7:30.....but I'm too tired right now to do any modeling......sigh....

Steve Bamford
Rama Lama Do Dah Day
Official Temple Historian
Grand Creator of :-ş on RMS
Northern Temple
Canada

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Ron Smith

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Steve Bamford wrote:
>
> I drank a couple of cups of coffee tonight at work (I'm a tea
> drinker....coffee keeps me awake)...and here I sit at 2am wide awake...and
> the worst part is my 3 year old will want me to get up when she does at
> 7:30.....but I'm too tired right now to do any modeling......sigh....

Hah! Serves you right for not acclimating first!

Jonathan Mock

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Jun 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/27/99
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Plasticine is the brand name of a type of oil based modelling clay
invetnted by Harbutts of Bath, England. I'm told that Harbutts are now
owned by... Humbrol.

And you wonder why there are no new kits in Airfix's 50th year..?

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Lafimprov

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Jun 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/28/99
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As many previous posters have pointed out, Plasticine is the non-hardening
modeling clay we played with as kids. In Britain, there has been much more use
of it for modeling purposes. Today it's usually used temporarily (such as for
mold making), or where it won't be seen (like in an aircraft nose). But I
remember articles in old British modeling magazines in which it was sculpted
and even painted. Of course, the oil tends to seep out through the paint, and
any pressure on the surface would crack the skin of paint over the soft
plasticine. One clever fellow found that he could harden the surface of
plasticine by brushing it with banana oil (!) and claimed it produced a
paintable surface (one wonders just how he stumbled on this technique,
anyway--do all Englishman keep jars of banana oil in their cupboards, and if
so, why?). In any event, when epoxy putty (Milliput, Duro, etc.) became widely
available, there was little reason to bother with plasticine (apart from it
being cheap).
As for Play-doh, it is a water-based non-toxic sculpting medium (meaning little
Johnny can eat it and not expire--apparently it actually is dough). It is
cheap, it does harden after it dries, and it takes a coat of paint. A few years
ago, I figured, hey it's cheaper than Milliput, why not model accessories for
my diorama with it? Of course I live in southeast Florida, between the Atlantic
Ocean and one of the Earth's biggest swamps. Can you say humid, boys and girls?
Imagine my joy a few weeks later when I noticed spectacular fungal blooms
appearing all over my Sherman's sandbags. I switched back to Milliput...

Mat Irvine

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Jun 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/30/99
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ne.co.uk>, Jonathan Mock <jonathan.m...@ukonline.co.uk> writes

>Raymond A. Morrissey wrote in message
><3770dc95...@news.mindspring.com>...
>>A question for all you UK modelers out there. Many modeling how to
>>books and articles from England refer to plasticine. Aside from the
>>Beatles song I've never heard of it. Can anyone tell me what it is
>>and if there is a US equivalent. Thanks.
>
>Plasticine is the brand name of a type of oil based modelling clay
>invetnted by Harbutts of Bath, England. I'm told that Harbutts are now
>owned by... Humbrol.
>
>And you wonder why there are no new kits in Airfix's 50th year..?

Yes there are - Wallace and Gromit - originated in ----- Plasticine...
>

mat

MAT IRVINE <m...@smallspace.demon.co.uk>
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Jonathan Mock

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From: Mat Irvine <m...@smallspace.demon.co.uk>

> >And you wonder why there are no new kits in Airfix's 50th year..?
>
> Yes there are - Wallace and Gromit - originated in ----- Plasticine...
> >
>
> mat
>
> MAT IRVINE <m...@smallspace.demon.co.uk>
> URL http://www.smallspace.demon.co.uk - now updated - 'bout time too

And the irony is that it's easier, quicker and more authentic to make the
W&G figures out of Plasticene that it is to try and use those injection
moulded figures in the Airfix kits...

Michael Hanlon

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