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Rick Sternbach

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Nov 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/20/97
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Okay, here's what a lot of you have been chomping at the bit for, the
colors of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-E. The shooting miniature has been
in town for a few days for a calendar shoot (ooh-la-la), and Mike Okuda
and John Eaves have pegged the hull paint scheme to close matches in
Pantone numbers. FS matches still to come.

*NOTE*, however, that all the fiddly little tape masks and teensy-weensy
plate details are NOT going to be called out. When ILM painted the model,
a lot of areas were simply misted to get variations in the surface
appearance, and simply can't be pegged as to color. That's up to you
hyperdetail fanatics to replicate.

Anyhow:

Overall Base Hull Color: Cool Gray 2U (U="uncoated;" somewhat matte)
Contrasting Hull Panels: Cool Gray 3U
Occasional Plates: Cool Gray 1U and 4U
Note: The Upper Saucer is mostly CG2U outboard of the registry number, and
mostly CG3U inboard number. This is due to the relative amount of masking
of the plating; more notes coming about this. For the moment, don't go
buying tons of masking film or tape.

Dark Gray Areas: Warm Gray 11U
Contrasting Lines/Panels: Warm Gray 9-10U

Lifeboat Surrounds: Cool Gray 10U
Sensors: Cool Gray 10U
RCS Quads: 131U plus flat black nozzles
Phaser Strips: 416U
Deflector Dish: Bronzish/Copper (better notes soon)

Nacelle Side Lobes: Flat Black and primer gray (b.n.s.)
Very Dark Pylon Vents: Flat Black with blue-gray trim (better notes soon)
Nacelle Nose Accent: Cool Gray 10U

That's it for the moment. Most of the *truly* dark details, and there
aren't many of them, are jet black. A few more are on the underside, and
I'll get to them soon. The medium dark stuff is the two levels of dark
gray, and the lighter stuff is the two or so levels of light gray. As I
say, ILM got a lot of other levels by misting the smallish panels, but
overall, we're looking at a fairly limited pallette.

Good luck!

Rick

--
Rick Sternbach
Senior Illustrator
Star Trek Voyager

"We've been doing so much for so long with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing!"

Chris Potter

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Nov 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/21/97
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I'd just like to take this opportunity of thanking Rick for all his
time and trouble in bringing us this sort of detail. I live in the UK
and you just can't get this sort of thing over here by any other
method.

Does anyone know whether there's any official source at Paramount etc
where one could obtain some close up detail photos of the various
Federation ships (and indeed some of the better known 'enemy' ships)
from the Star Trek series. In some of the photos on the Thomas Models
web site, I noticed in the background he has some incredible close ups
of particular areas of USS Voyager to aid in his detailing of the
special edition model. I wondered if this sort of material might be
available or was it something special for Thomas models to build this
particular kit ?

Any help would be appreciated.

Chris Potter
IPMS UK member

Richard Hopkins

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Nov 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/21/97
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Chris Potter wrote in message <3476d41b...@read.news.global.net.uk>...


>I'd just like to take this opportunity of thanking Rick for all his
>time and trouble in bringing us this sort of detail. I live in the UK
>and you just can't get this sort of thing over here by any other
>method.

Hear hear!

>Does anyone know whether there's any official source at Paramount etc
>where one could obtain some close up detail photos of the various
>Federation ships (and indeed some of the better known 'enemy' ships)
>from the Star Trek series.

Rick's planning to do something like this on hs homepage when he gets the
time...

>In some of the photos on the Thomas Models
>web site, I noticed in the background he has some incredible close ups
>of particular areas of USS Voyager to aid in his detailing of the
>special edition model. I wondered if this sort of material might be
>available or was it something special for Thomas models to build this
>particular kit ?

I can't get through to his www ATM, but I'd imagine the photos are the same
ones used in the instruction book of the new Revellogram Voyager kit, which
is, incidentally, the best source I've yet seen for detail pix of the
Intrepid class.

Anyway, I'm off now. If you have any idea how many windows there are on the
Enterprise-E, You'll understand that I'll have my hands full over the next
few days, as I'm opening them all out in preparation for lighting. Sixty
seven down, only a few hundred to go...

If only the windows were a little bigger. :-(

Richard Hopkins,
richh(at)dial(dot)pipex(dot)com
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom.
(Note: Replace .nospam with .com in auto-reply address!!)
Now here's one for those dumb spambots: ab...@microsoft.com

Rick Sternbach

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Nov 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/21/97
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In article <653895$bd0$1...@plug.news.pipex.net>, "Richard Hopkins"
<ri...@dial.pipex.nospam> wrote:

If the Voyager photos are similar to the ones in the new instruction
booklet, they're not all of the studio model; some are the kit, which has
some well-known problems (which I'm also getting to shortly back at the
home page).

I'm looking into posting a few details of the E ship; the scans will be
deliberately a bit contrasty to show the shading differences.

TrekFX

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Nov 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/22/97
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>>Anyway, I'm off now. If you have any idea how many windows there are on the
Enterprise-E, You'll understand that I'll have my hands full over the next
few days, as I'm opening them all out in preparation for lighting. Sixty
seven down, only a few hundred to go...<<

Let's petition ERTL to mold a limited run in *clear* for all parts. Those who
light 'em up (and we know who we are...), understanding fully the immense
investment of time required to do "windows", and would probably pay the extra
50 or hundred bucks to save a week of extra work (and ultimately, get better
results!) Comments?

Richard Hopkins

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Nov 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/22/97
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TrekFX wrote in message <19971122115...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

Good idea. Any chance of it happening? Well maybe we'd have a chance with
Revellogram...

Is the er...@harwoodmarketing.com email address anything other than a black
hole?
I've sent two messages with Ent-E comments to it so-far, but haven't got any
acknowledgement yet. Got a better one?

Mind you if Ertl had made the Ent-E a decent size in the first place,
cutting the windows out wouldn't be such a nightmare job, would it?

One hundred and sixty nine down...

Jeff Bond

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Nov 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/22/97
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Richard Hopkins wrote:
>

>
> Mind you if Ertl had made the Ent-E a decent size in the first place,
> cutting the windows out wouldn't be such a nightmare job, would it?
>
> One hundred and sixty nine down...
>

I finally got my Enterprise-E, and I'm completely satisfied with the
size. If ERTL wants to produce something 6 inches longer somewhere down
the line, fine, but this kit is impressive enough.

Torsten Wendt

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Nov 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/23/97
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At *21.11.97* from *Do 20.11.97*, *11:00*,
*rsternbach-20...@pool019-max17.la-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net*,
*Rick Sternbach* wrote *Enterprise-E Color Info*:
RS> and John Eaves have pegged the hull paint scheme to close matches in
RS> Pantone numbers. FS matches still to come.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What are Pantone numbers (colours?)? I'm not familiar with this kind of
colours. Here in Germany we only know FS and our own system RAL. Any help
with this, e. g. where I can get a Pantone colour card, would be very
helpfull. I appreciate any kind of help with this. One note, I have no
webaccess, so please send me an email. Thank to everyone who can help!

Regards,
_____ Torsten Wendt (T.W...@TBX.BerliNet.De)
__...---'-----`---...__ President Science Fiction Model Builders'
============================= Association Deutschland (SFMBA'D)
`---..._________...---' S.F.3.D NetWork Founder Germany 1994
*TOBEORNOTTOBE* Berlin, Germany

Richard Hopkins

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Nov 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/24/97
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Torsten Wendt wrote in message <6iRuO...@wendt.tbx.BerliNet.DE>...

>What are Pantone numbers (colours?)? I'm not familiar with this kind of
>colours. Here in Germany we only know FS and our own system RAL. Any help
>with this, e. g. where I can get a Pantone colour card, would be very
>helpfull. I appreciate any kind of help with this. One note, I have no
>webaccess, so please send me an email. Thank to everyone who can help!

Pantone is a colour matching system used throughout the professional
graphics, design and art worlds.

You should be able to get some Pantone matching sheets from a technical
drawing or art supplies store near you.

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