HELP - Weathering with pastels

[Pedro Nuno Soares]

Hi Gang,

I'm always coming across references to weathering using pastel powder.
I want to try it but I'd appreciate if one of you weathering gurus
would tell me how the heck are we suppose to ground the pastels. I'm
using oil pastels and I've tried the classical approach - rubbing the
pastel stick on wet and dry sandpaper - but the paper will immediately
clog and instead of pastel powder all I get is a muddy coat on the
paper that is impossible to apply to anything. Am I using the right
pastels? If so, what am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advance

Happy modeling

Pedro

[R. J. GOLDMAN]

WELL OLD BUDDY TRY DRY PASTELS AND SEE HOW THEY WORK OUT!!!
I' so sure that htey will that I'll nbet my right leg on it !!
Whoops sorry I don't have a right leg anymore *G*
Rob

[silver]

Pedro Nuno Soares wrote:
>
> Hi Gang,
>
> I'm always coming across references to weathering using pastel powder.
> I want to try it but I'd appreciate if one of you weathering gurus
> would tell me how the heck are we suppose to ground the pastels. I'm
> using oil pastels and I've tried the classical approach - rubbing the
> pastel stick on wet and dry sandpaper - but the paper will immediately
> clog and instead of pastel powder all I get is a muddy coat on the
> paper that is impossible to apply to anything. Am I using the right
> pastels? If so, what am I doing wrong?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Happy modeling
>
> Pedro

Make sure you have chalk pastels and not oil. I rub my pastels on 600
grit paper to produce the powder,mix shades according to what you are
looking for. I have a package of earthtones,graytones, and a mixed
package with primary colors and such. It sounds like you are using oil
pastels,no good get chalk, no water is involved in the use of pastels.
After I have proper shading I simply brush onto model, use different
strokes for the effect you are looking for. Pastels go on best to a flat
finish, gloss gives little for powder to adhere to. Clearcoats will dull
the pastels, many leave them uncoated.
Good luck, Steven Spach

[Paolo Pizzi]

Pedro Nuno Soares wrote:
>
> Hi Gang,
>
> I'm always coming across references to weathering using pastel powder.
> I want to try it but I'd appreciate if one of you weathering gurus
> would tell me how the heck are we suppose to ground the pastels.

I use "soft" pastels, the dry type. I don't crush it, I just
gently rub the handbrush on the pastel and remove the excess
with a tissue.

--
Paolo Pizzi
Cypress, CA
IPMS #35423
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[Nacht Wulf]

I'm always coming across references to weathering using pastel powder.
> I want to try it but I'd appreciate if one of you weathering gurus
> would tell me how the heck are we suppose to ground the pastels.

Make sure first that you are using chalk pastels!

-Dale-

[VITKUSJ]

silver <sil...@Infoave.net> writes:

>Pastels go on best to a flat
>finish, gloss gives little for powder to adhere to. Clearcoats will dull
>the pastels, many leave them uncoated.

And a clear overcoat will make the pastels darker, too. At least this was
my experience with chalk pastels and PollyScale Flat. I had what I
thought was a nice, subtle weathering edge to the panel lines, and then I
sprayed on the flat coat to seal the pastels and prevent fingerprints.
Now I have a dark, fuzzy grid superimposed on the camo scheme. One learns
by one's mistakes; I'm learning a lot!.

John Vitkus
IPMS/USA 30013