OT writing a book
Jules
airbases i visited, Cottbus and Rothenburg....i took loads of fotos, some
aimed at modellers, some general shots
I had always thought of sticking them on a cd and selling em for a couple of
quid....
now been thinking of writing a book, i noticed on Huperscale, someone doing
if on Luftwaffe Starfighters, but im more of a DDR era guy..
Has anyone got a rough idea of cost of say doing a 100 book run, the
pitfalls etc etc.
Im gonna go back to the bases, museums for more pics
http://www.julianhales.co.uk/aircraft_quick.htm
just a rough few i took last year.
i have perfect english/german speaker friends, and i thought a bit of
history and research with captions, and at the back a quick kit/plane
listing of who did what.
ta
Hawkeye
I would talk to those who have published books and find out how they
got 'published'. Fronting the money yourself could turn out to be a
loosing proposition. Talk to the various magazine publishers to see if
they are willing to do an insert of your work into their magazine. You
may get a several issue run, but your going to have to have your
materials ready for them to review. It is just a matter of
organization.
Don Stauffer in Minnesota
I agree. If you go with a regular publisher, rather than the so-
called Vanity press, the publisher puts up the money. The vanity
press makes their money from the authors, not the selling of books.
That being said, modern technology has greatly eased the cost of self-
publishing. I attended a seminar about a year ago on doing so. There
is an organization of folks doing self-publishing. Google on self
publishing.
The people in the seminar used concerns in Asia for low cost
printing. When you self publish, printing and advertising are your
big buck things. They recommended hiring local English majors in
colleges to do editing and page makeup.
I have not gotten the nerve yet to do the printed book, but have been
selling a CD. Minimal cost to "publish" a CD.
flak monkey
"Don Stauffer in Minnesota" <stau...@usfamily.net> wrote in message
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You might find that your local council has a graphic design department that
will take on private layout work for a very reasonable price. When I worked
in a council graphic design department some time back, a fair amount of our
work came from private individuals. These folks also tend to be well
connected with printers and publishers and might be able to give you some
pointers.
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Jules
"flak monkey" <steve...@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
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Im due to leave England in the summer, move to Germany, which of course
gives me local access again to the aircraft and more info...wooooo Just
means i dont think i will have access to anyone back home.
I had thought of a cd for many months, aimed at modellers. but then had a
idea of a book....ok it makes sense to do a cd for modellers, then what cash
i can get push towards a book...
Will have to speak to my German friends...
Jules
"Don Stauffer in Minnesota" <stau...@usfamily.net> wrote in message
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i had thought of doing the book along this format
http://www.hyperscale.com/reviews/books/airdocadjp001reviewkb_1.htm
then thought maybe in 3 books, early, mid and late.....with small articles
on bases themselves and support vechiles, hell i have some great pics of a
runway snow blaster truck....powerd with a T34 engine!!!!! now thats one
beast
>
Jules
"Hawkeye" <haw...@hawkeyeshobbies.com> wrote in message
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well i know Jon Freeman and Neil Robinson who publish stuff over here....so
i will talk to them next time i see them
As its stands i have noooooo cash, hell im having to sell my stash for the
move to Germany in the summer.
good thinking though, worth looking into!
Flying Frog
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"Jules" <julia...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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CD? That way, if you decide later to publish it in a printed form, you don't
have to do the work again. Any printshop can go to press from a pdf as long
as it's done correctly. Whichever route you take, it's a great idea you have
there.
Jules
good thinking....that way i can get feedback on it, before it would hit
paper.......
Jules
"Flying Frog" <flying-frog_NO_SP@M_PLEASE_ffsmc.com> wrote in message
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> If you need a French translator... ;o)
>
> --
> Chris
i dont think people would want to buy it in english or german...never mind
french ;-)
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Flying Frog
> i dont think people would want to buy it in english or german...never mind
> french ;-)
If you need, I'm ok... if you don't need, I'm ok also... lol
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Jules
"Flying Frog" <flying-frog_NO_SP@M_PLEASE_ffsmc.com> wrote in message
> Jules a émis l'idée suivante :
>
> > i dont think people would want to buy it in english or german...never
mind
> > french ;-)
>
> If you need, I'm ok... if you don't need, I'm ok also... lol
>
thanks Chris
I have seen books with english/polish 4+ books (or maybe Cz not Polish) and
some books english/german....but i thought all people in france could write
read english :-) ok maybe only model people lol
i love Mig and SU planes....a SU22 is BIG when stood next to
> --
> Chris
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Flying Frog
> thanks Chris
>
> I have seen books with english/polish 4+ books (or maybe Cz not Polish) and
> some books english/german....but i thought all people in france could write
> read english :-) ok maybe only model people lol
>
> i love Mig and SU planes....a SU22 is BIG when stood next to
Unfortunatly French people is often unable to read English, German or
other foreign languages. It is often a real handicap moreover. One
could think that young generations speak better English for example
than the older ones, but it is not case. It is necessary to say that
the education of languages in France suffers from an education of very
poor quality.
I am very aware with my big gaps to write English, but at least, I read
it almost without any trouble. I would love whether it is case for my
kids.
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Jules
"Flying Frog" <flying-frog_NO_SP@M_PLEASE_ffsmc.com> wrote in message
ah.. ok in germany young speak and write ok english, i can see your small
mistakes....but i can understand what you mean.
ok what is French for 'Mig21 MF, Cottbus' ;-) maybe French text would
be good for the writen articles. i plan a summer of taking images, then to
design how to write and layout the images, although i am english my written
english is poor.....
the book is more referance for images of aircraft, small history and
airbases and of course correct dates etc.
i still have to think, should i do early DDR to end of DDR or type of
aircraft, say fighters only, MIG21 and SU22's etc etc
i saw many old MIG and SU's that were many times painted in differant
places, so you could see new patches of paint, and over painting of
markings....
yes i have many many walk around MIg21 books, but i still had to look at the
real planes to find the info i needed.
Flying Frog
> ah.. ok in germany young speak and write ok english, i can see your small
> mistakes....but i can understand what you mean.
You're too kind!
> ok what is French for 'Mig21 MF, Cottbus' ;-)
For me, the MiG 21MF is simply a Fishbed...
maybe French text would
> be good for the writen articles. i plan a summer of taking images, then to
> design how to write and layout the images, although i am english my written
> english is poor.....
>
> the book is more referance for images of aircraft, small history and
> airbases and of course correct dates etc.
>
> i still have to think, should i do early DDR to end of DDR or type of
> aircraft, say fighters only, MIG21 and SU22's etc etc
>
> i saw many old MIG and SU's that were many times painted in differant
> places, so you could see new patches of paint, and over painting of
> markings....
>
> yes i have many many walk around MIg21 books, but i still had to look at the
> real planes to find the info i needed.
There are a lot ok books, but books made by modellers are always more
interesting for me, mecause a modeller knows what the modellers need...
;o)
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Jules
"Flying Frog" <flying-frog_NO_SP@M_PLEASE_ffsmc.com> wrote in message
> Jules avait énoncé :
>
> > ah.. ok in germany young speak and write ok english, i can see your
small
> > mistakes....but i can understand what you mean.
>
> You're too kind!
i cannot write much in french, if any, at school i did german
>
> > ok what is French for 'Mig21 MF, Cottbus' ;-)
>
> For me, the MiG 21MF is simply a Fishbed...
but very differant from a UM :-)
>
> maybe French text would
> > be good for the writen articles. i plan a summer of taking images, then
to
> > design how to write and layout the images, although i am english my
written
> > english is poor.....
> >
> > the book is more referance for images of aircraft, small history and
> > airbases and of course correct dates etc.
> >
> > i still have to think, should i do early DDR to end of DDR or type of
> > aircraft, say fighters only, MIG21 and SU22's etc etc
> >
> > i saw many old MIG and SU's that were many times painted in differant
> > places, so you could see new patches of paint, and over painting of
> > markings....
> >
> > yes i have many many walk around MIg21 books, but i still had to look at
the
> > real planes to find the info i needed.
>
> There are a lot ok books, but books made by modellers are always more
> interesting for me, mecause a modeller knows what the modellers need...
> ;o)
>
yes, i have maybe 8 books on Mig21, all good, but none had the pictures i
needed, esp for a 32nd Trumpeter kit, so i had to take my own fotos, and
also of rocket pods etc etc
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> Chris
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Mad-Modeller
much covered. ISTR an article in AI years ago before the Wall came
down. Obviously the author would not have had as much access to info
and hardware as you've had, Jules.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Jules
"Mad-Modeller" <checkr...@nextline.com> wrote in message
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Well i went through some other pics i had, some unusual and wierd stuff....i
know some people in the German IPMS, so next time i go and soon i will find
list of all ex airbases and start putting some rough ideas together.
frank
IMHO, the problem with self publishing is you end up with books
that look like they were written by 6th graders.......or worse. Of
course, from some 'editing' I see, some editors aren't so hot either.
On Feb 24, 9:05 am, "Don Stauffer in Minnesota"
Jules
"frank" <famv...@canufly.net> wrote in message
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>
> IMHO, the problem with self publishing is you end up with books
> that look like they were written by 6th graders.......or worse. Of
> course, from some 'editing' I see, some editors aren't so hot either.
um im not too good either, so will have to get it proofed etc and take a lot
of rewriting i guess, but should be fun...and let me check out loadsa cool
planes again.