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ch1...@earthlink.net

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Mar 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/12/98
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cb...@flash.net wrote:
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> Has anyone built the Pro Modeler BF-109G in 1/48 scale?
>
> Is it a new kit with recessed panel lines?
>
> how is the cockpit/wheel well detail?
>
> are there any cool features like positionable control
> surfaces?
>
> how is the fit?
>
> coyote


Hey Coyote,

Ass-u-me'ing we're both talking about the kit: 3-MO5225, I was
interested in the same question as this has been released -twice- in a
given space of 2-3 years as both a K (hard to find) and a G-10. It's
SMO sale listed as $7.97 just about every month.

Someone here on the Group mentioned that it was the basis of the
Hobbycraft molds (i.e. HC only 'cleaned them up a little') which implies
that they are recessed lined and actually pretty durn nice for a late
Gustav if you can't afford a Fujimi Foreign Debt.

John Huggins over at Squadron on the other hand says that they are
direct descendants of the OLD Revell USA kit (now a Revell Germany
release as RG4522 with metal) which was supposedly the best G on the
market for many many years until Fujimi and now Hasegawa started up. He
maintains that this kit is raised-line.

Now if you're talking about kit #: MO5940 (PM 1/72nd) that is also a
Revell (Germany, molded in Poland or Czech Republic) offering, simply
reboxxed for U.S. sale.

I heartily agree with whoever said that the difference between
$4.99-$5.99 for a blue-box special (RG /import/) and eleven bucks and
change for the Monogram is absolutely criminal but finding the RG 109
(or the 190 or the 262) is getting to be pretty hard now. Having built
the Swallow, I can say that it had no droopables but the cockpit was
great for the scale (raised details and something like six or seven
separate parts!:) and the recessed lines were also pretty superb.

Fine Scale Modeller has a review of the PM Bf-109 in it's September 1997
'past reviews' online at-

http://www.kalmbach.com/fsm/finescale.html


if you want a better idea. Side view pic looks spot on to me, even the
gear angle looks right and without a centerline tank the Augsburg Eagle
is still one of the meanest looking WWII interceptors out there.

Jim Terry says it may need some cockpit stuff if you 'solve' the
too-narrow canopy fit problems by opening it up and ARIES had a
(Hasegawa EA7008) 109G detail set on sale last month for only $3.99...


Kurt Plummer

cb...@flash.net

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CharlieH

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cb...@flash.net wrote in article <350991b6...@news.flash.net>...

AFAIK the Pro Modeller Me109G is 1/72nd scale. Unless they have snuck one
in that is not listed. If it is the 1/72nd scale kit it is a Revell Germany
original that is quite good (except for odd propellor) and originates from
the Check republic and is vastly cheaper from revell.

The other one it may be is a misprinted Me110G

regards
charlie

Dave Williams

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Mar 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/13/98
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cb...@flash.net wrote:
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> Has anyone built the Pro Modeler BF-109G in 1/48 scale?
>
> Is it a new kit with recessed panel lines?
>

The new ProModeler Bf-109G is in 1/72 scale.

Todd Enlund

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Mar 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/13/98
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On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:19:51 -0700, ch1...@earthlink.net wrote:

>John Huggins over at Squadron on the other hand says that they are
>direct descendants of the OLD Revell USA kit (now a Revell Germany
>release as RG4522 with metal) which was supposedly the best G on the
>market for many many years until Fujimi and now Hasegawa started up. He
>maintains that this kit is raised-line.

The old Revell kit is still (as of March 13th, 1998) the best
G-10 on the market.


Todd Enlund

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Skyhawk318

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Mar 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/13/98
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i believe that this is a 1/72 scale kit? i have never seen a promodeler 1/48
scale kit of the 109 yet.......is there one?

Todd Enlund

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Mar 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/14/98
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On 13 Mar 1998 23:53:49 GMT, skyha...@aol.com (Skyhawk318) wrote:

>i believe that this is a 1/72 scale kit? i have never seen a promodeler 1/48
>scale kit of the 109 yet.......is there one?

The 1/72 kit is Pro Modeler, the 1/48 G-10 is Revell, circa
1980.

Jonathan Mock

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Mar 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/14/98
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From: ten...@earthlink.net (Todd Enlund)

On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:19:51 -0700, ch1...@earthlink.net wrote:

>John Huggins over at Squadron on the other hand says that they are
>direct descendants of the OLD Revell USA kit (now a Revell Germany
>release as RG4522 with metal) which was supposedly the best G on the
>market for many many years until Fujimi and now Hasegawa started up. He
>maintains that this kit is raised-line.

The old 1/48 Me 109 G-10 was first released by Revell Germany nearly 20
years ago. It has since been rereleased by Revell Germany as a 109 K (sic),
by Monogram and then by Revell Germany (again) with some white metal parts
as part of their rather bizarre 'Hi-tech' range (or something).

This kit has recessed panel lines. Always had.

For a 20+ year old kit its pretty darn good and builds easily into a nice
replica of a late 109.

--
Jonathan

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Kyofu

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Mar 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/14/98
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The ProModeler Bf 109G-10 is 1/72, not 1/48. It is accurate with fine recessed
lines but has some crude details like a short-shot prop and thick canopy.

The Revell/Monogram 1/48 Bf 109 G-10 is ancient but good. All panel lines are
recessed except a couple of minor access hatches and the like. A lot of folks
think it is STILL the most accurate late "refined-cowl" 109 in quarter-inch.

ProModeler has announced the release of a 1/48 Fw 190 G this year; I think the
rumor mill transposed the "190" to "109" and this has caused some confusion.
This is supposedly a former Trimaster/DML effort. The 190 G was a long-range
ground-attack variant built in small numbers.


Mike Driskill

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Skyhawk318

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Mar 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/14/98
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why in hell would they want to do a G-9? why not put out an A-8, this was one
the most widely used of the plane, and only dml/trimaster has done one...

john

Jonathan Mock

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From: ky...@aol.com (Kyofu)

> The ProModeler Bf 109G-10 is 1/72, not 1/48. It is accurate with fine
> recessed
> lines but has some crude details like a short-shot prop and thick canopy.

This has also been released under the Revell Germany banner for the
European market. Instruction sheets and decals are inferior IMHO.



> The Revell/Monogram 1/48 Bf 109 G-10 is ancient but good. All panel lines are
> recessed except a couple of minor access hatches and the like. A lot of folks
> think it is STILL the most accurate late "refined-cowl" 109 in quarter-inch.

I like the kit - it's aged well.



> ProModeler has announced the release of a 1/48 Fw 190 G this year; I think the
> rumor mill transposed the "190" to "109" and this has caused some confusion.
> This is supposedly a former Trimaster/DML effort. The 190 G was a long-range
> ground-attack variant built in small numbers.

I'm confused - has there been a rumour that Promodeler were releasing a 109
G or a 190 G? Matt Irvine's report in Scale Models International on the
National Model and Hobby in Chicago last year has a photo of the box top
which is labelled as a FW 190 G-3 and shows a pic of a Butcher Bird.

Sorry if I'm asking the obvious - I'm writing in this haste while waiting
for the rice to boil!

Skyhawk318

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Mar 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/14/98
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revell is putting out a fw-190g-3........i saw the box cover today at a model
hobby expo......WHY?????? why not a good fw-190a-8? only one available is the
dml/trimaster butcher

Kyofu

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98
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The list of new kit releases in the last FineScale Modeler confirms the
upcoming ProModeler is a 1/48 Focke-Wulf 190 G.

The 190 G was basically nothing more than a 190 A with a bunch of stuff hung on
the wings, anyone who needs another 1/48 A model should not find it a difficult
conversion.

Todd Enlund

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98
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On 14 Mar 1998 18:31:08 GMT, skyha...@aol.com (Skyhawk318) wrote:

>why in hell would they want to do a G-9? why not put out an A-8, this was one
>the most widely used of the plane, and only dml/trimaster has done one...

If they kit a correct G-3, then we finally have a 190 that can
be built as an A-5.

Skyhawk318

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98
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hmmm? good point....didn't think of that

thanks

Azzz1588

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98
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In article <350bfecd....@news.earthlink.net>, ten...@earthlink.net (Todd
Enlund) writes:

> If they kit a correct G-3, then we finally have a 190 that can
>be built as an A-5.

With or without inner gear doors ?? <G>


Allan
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