Revell JAS-39 Gripen 1/32 - is it worth buying??
Gunnar Olsen
Anyone who can tell me how accurate this model is?
Thanks!
Gunnar Olsen
Dave Williams
"Gunnar Olsen" <gun...@online.no> wrote in message
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Not very, but it does look like a Gripen, and it is the only choice in 1/32
scale.
Dave
Rufus
it's the only 1/32 Gripen on the market, and it looks like a Gripen, and
that's good enough for me! Not up to the standard of the new-tool
Tornadoes and F-4's, but not a bad kit if you're a Gripen fan. I wish
they would release a two-seater...
It's a small airplane, even in 1/32. There are a few prototype details
molded onto the kit (the canards have some counter weights) which must
be removed, and detail in the cockpit is lacking; but I don't mind
building up those details myself, so to me that's a plus. Same for the
landing gear and gear wells. It's a good starting platform for adding
detail to, so I can't really recommend against it if you like the big
Revell kits in general.
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Sten
Some pretty major shape problems with wings and canards (and more).
The built up kit looks like a Gripen, but that's about it.
Sten
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AlbertCherer
involve one plug or several?
TIA
Big Al Baltimore IPMS, AMPS
Iain Ogilvie
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Hmmm...
I have one on the 'to do' stash (along with over 400 other 1:32 kits!!) and
concur on all the comments made so far...
What I've been looking for is a really accurate set of drawings before I get
the razor saw out - can anyone help?
BTW - dropped Saab an e-mail a few years ago asking for info and they sent
me a nice 'marketing pack', but it didn't include scale drawings...
Happy Modelling,
Iain
32SIG
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Dave and Kim
it looks good in the case next to my Mig-21 from Trumpeeter, have it on
display at Tiger Hobby in Winnipeg.
I used the kit seat (modified), (the paragon Mk 10 seats were a little
wider then the cockpit well) with the belts from the Eduard 1/32 Tornado
etch set, scratchbult the side consoles, instrument panel, canopy detail and
radio boxes behind the cockpit. You will have to add APU inlet and exhaust
on left underside of the fuselage , add antenaes were needed, modify the
lights on the sides of the intake, fill and rescribe panel lines in certain
areas, remove the counterweight fairings on the canards and add the vortex
generators just aft of the canards (study your referances for sutle changes
that are needed to be made overall) I used some of the kit decals and allot
from a bunch of differant sheets ( roundels and stenciling from the Revell
sheet and fuselage numbers I searched forever to find the right match).
There is allot I did with this kit but you don't have to go that far to
have a nice looking Gripen on the shelf. The length was a little short but
not enough to notice truthfully (only one scale foot if that IIRC) and this
is according to what is quoted on the official SAAB Gripen C/D I have.
I think this model has always gotten a bad rap for not being accurate,
but why do the Revell F-15 and (especially)Mig-29 get away with it as being
nice kits(either is not accurate it has taken me weeks to modify the overall
fuselage and exhaust section on the Mig-29). They seem to have gotten most
of the Gripen correct, so why complain, I hardly used any putty on this
kit, it went together very nicely, has nice petite recessed panel lines. I
say its worth it, I have another I might modify into a Two Seater.
Cheers Dave
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Erik Piek
-ECM tail fairing too big
-tail fin too thick and too short
-canard size, shape and detail wrong
-canard fairings too high and bulky
-wing size, shape and outline wrong
-sidewinder rails too short and should point downwards
-overall lenght 15 mm short
-canopy too short
-all underside intakes wrongly placed
-underside fuselage too square
-main uc doors size and shape wrong
-wheel wells 10 mm short
-landing gear lenght 7 mm short
-wheel diameter too small
They complained about a few other things as well, concluding with the remark
that the kit is more like 1/35 instead of 1/32. Quote: "it's a pity that
the decals fit so well, because any attempt in correcting the kit's shape
will cause problems"....
I will build it however, and I will try to correct some flaws, because like
everybody says: it's the only game in town.
Erik
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Rufus
I had...
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2000/04/stuff_eng_detail_gripen.htm
How's that Hunter coming along...;)
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Rufus
snaps on-line?
I wish there was a two-seater, too...:)
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Dave and Kim
for me and I will post them. I will let you know on here when I do and
where... Dave
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Iain Ogilvie
> Me too...someone turened me onto this site not long ago...more info than
> I had...
>
> http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2000/04/stuff_eng_detail_gripen.htm
>
> How's that Hunter coming along...;)
Nag, nag, nag... ;-)
It isn't (at the moment anyway...)
MiG21 F-13 atm - delayed 'cos I sat on the rear transparency :-(
Regards,
Iain
Gunnar Olsen
I guess I just have to buy one, after all it IS the only one in this
scale... and it's kind of OK when I know (most of) the faults before I start
( and not realize that it actually has faults after it is finished :o)
Gunnar
Sten
was even one of the co-authors. At the time I was working in the Swedish
defence industry and had access to *very* good drawings :o)
Don't even ask, I no longer live in Sweden and I do not have copies of those
drawings for natural reasons!
By all means build the kit as a representation of the Gripen, but I doubt it
is worth trying to correct all the problems to get a good scale model. Maybe
Trumpeter can be persuaded to release a scaled up version of the Italeri
kit? I am not saying they should copy it straight from the kit, but the
Italeri/Airfix/Revell(NEW) kits are the best and actually quite good. The
older 1/72 Revell (with prototype markings and a 1/48 scale landing gear) is
not so good.
Sten Sundelin
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Rufus
I'm spending way too much time (and money...) on a 1/32 Revell F-14A
right now myself...and I have two more Tamiya ones on the shelf - what
was I thinking?!?!?
You almost side-tracked me with your 109...beauty of a paint job you
did. I have both the G6 and G14 in waiting as well...they'd certainly
go together quicker than this Tomcat.
Keep pluggin'.
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Erik Piek
Bit harsh review I would say, but honest.
I hope Revell will do a remake of it as they did it for their Phantom and
Tornado. Having said that, a F-3 would not be difficult to conceive at all
from the second tornado kit, and we've been waiting for that one for quite a
while... Then again, an 1/32 AV-8B Harrier sounds even better... Isn't "wish
list" a phrase made up by a 1/32 modeller? ;-)
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Rufus
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Sten
Problem at the time with most kit manufacturers was that they would
oftentimes release objects of more or less pure imagination even though they
should have had access to decent information. (I think this has changed for
the better in later years.) Granted, information on new prototypes is scarce
and sometimes there is the time pressure to take into consideration. This
would be an excuse for Revell, but not for Hobbycraft with their 1/48
"Vampire"... ;o) Even so, who else would release a 1/32 Gripen at the time?
In any case, we wanted to point out the kit's good and bad features alike.
Unfortunately there were more of the latter. If you pay $5 for a kit you can
be more forgiving than if you pay $35 (or however much it would be today).
Just add the Gripen to the 1/32 wish list, and why not a SAAB 35 Draken and
a SAAB 37 Viggen in 1/32 as well? At least the Viggen splinter camo would be
easier to paint in 1/32 than 1/72. (Trumpeter, are you listening??)
Cheers!
Sten
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Erik Piek
years or so...I will definetely be the last one to say "how hard could it
be", but Revell has always come to the resque of 32nd scale guys before and
I hate it when a nice kit is only produced at least 40 years after it has
finally left active service. I have only some 50-odd years or so to live if
all goes well. When they finally release the thing it'll have to be 1/12
scale because of my poor eyesight by then...
We aim to please, but we're more pleased to aim...;-)
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Erik Piek
> Maybe we were a bit harsh, but you should have seen the first draft! LOL
I'm always in for a good laugh. Any chance of posting this draft?
> Problem at the time with most kit manufacturers was that they would
> oftentimes release objects of more or less pure imagination even though
they
> should have had access to decent information. (I think this has changed
for
> the better in later years.) Granted, information on new prototypes is
scarce
> and sometimes there is the time pressure to take into consideration. This
> would be an excuse for Revell, but not for Hobbycraft with their 1/48
> "Vampire"... ;o) Even so, who else would release a 1/32 Gripen at the
time?
Revell is to be commended for their ongoing courage, which is why I have
always loved the brand
despite their flaws. And as the choice for 32nd scale fans is so limited,
even a bad kit could be worth building.
> In any case, we wanted to point out the kit's good and bad features alike.
> Unfortunately there were more of the latter. If you pay $5 for a kit you
can
> be more forgiving than if you pay $35 (or however much it would be today).
Which is exactly why I tend to praise Revell in comparison to other brands
who release a kit with, for example, evidence of battle damage repairs...
;-) Although I have to say that even that is well-captured and faithfully
reproduced...
> Just add the Gripen to the 1/32 wish list, and why not a SAAB 35 Draken
and
> a SAAB 37 Viggen in 1/32 as well? At least the Viggen splinter camo would
be
> easier to paint in 1/32 than 1/72. (Trumpeter, are you listening??)
I'm sure they are, but are they acting as well? They seem to be
concentrating mainly on
former USSR-hardware these days. And they do it well, too! But a Revell
offering would probably not be half as bad but still at half the price...
Happy modelling,
Erik
Sten
Sorry, we destroyed for fear of never being allowed to buy another Revell
kit... ;o)
Sten
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