Collect Aire Models
Charles Robert Jordan
particular thier Martin XB-51 kit.Condidering the price of these kits I
wanted to get all your comments as possible as these have proved more
valuable than any magazine.
Charles Jordan
NA73X
Draw your own conclusion. :-)
Steve
Dan
However, I recall seeing some pretty mixed reviews on Collect Aire in the
newsgroup, so I can suggest you use the following URL:
http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml
to do a power search on Deja News. You should be able to pull up a lot of
posts on the topic if you type "Collect Aire" as the key words and restrict
the forum to rec.models.scale.
Dan
Dmcmodels
I have several of Collect-Aire's kits, and think I can give an honest opinion
of his kits.
I am almost done with Collect-Aire's XF8U-3 Crusader III, and absolutely love
this model!!! The fit of nearly all the resin parts was nearly like the latest
Tamiya kits, it was that good.
But, this isn't always the case. For example, I purchased the Collect-Aire
F-86H a few years ago, and I didn't have too many nice things to say about it.
I have notice with the kits I have chosen from Collect-Aire lately, the kits
are improving constantly. The last few kits I purchased from Collect-Aire, the
Mig-19, and Su-15, are very nicely done.
The XB-51, is a huge model. A friend of mine built that very kit from
Collect-Aire, and it is not a easy model to build, and has its problems. But,
where else are you going to find a 1/48 XB-51? Certainly Monogram or Hasegawa
won't ever make this model.
Well, hope this helps.
David Cooper
IPMS SIG Vacuform/Resin Kits
william Shuey
I notice you mention the MIG-19 kit. Since the much awaited 1/48th scale MIG-19
from out of the People's Republic has turned out to be a POS the Collect Air kit
looks to be the only game in town. I noticed it advertised in a recent magazine so
it is still available. I'd love a -19 but $139 is a jolt. Is it really a good
effort? A cousin tangled with them in Nam' and rated them the most dangerous
opponent. Fortunately, there weren't many of them.
Bill Shuey
RLGIRSCH
locate,i guess you have limited choices, i found an X-2 on e-bay at half the
price for a 1/48 scale kit, even at half price i thought it wasnt worth it,but
i had to have one, soooooooo........this wasnt my first resin, or multi-media
kit either, built a beautiful full resin 1/48 HO3/S-51 sikorsky from belcher
bits, and that was worth every dollar ,but im looking for X-planes in 1/48,,so
other than eduard,or lindberg in plastic, dont want vacs, i guess i got to keep
looking on e-Bay,or collect-aire has an advisor magazine that sells older
kits,havnt picked it up yet, but i really need an X-15 to go with my other 100
+ built a/c,copters, and spacecraft,
Eli Raphael
> Bill:
Yes it's worth it. I think from the last kits collect aire has come out
with, this one, is the best, better than the Su-15.
I recently finished the B-57G, and didn't know wether to throw it, burn
it or simply dump it!> But had to finish it and took a while, but, is
it worth it, I think so. Hopefully their Fencer comes nicer than the
rest!
> I notice you mention the MIG-19 kit. Since the much awaited
1/48th scale MIG-19
> from out of the People's Republic has turned out to be a POS the
Collect Air kit
> looks to be the only game in town. I noticed it advertised in a
recent magazine so
> it is still available. I'd love a -19 but $139 is a jolt. Is it
really a good
>
Eli
"There are no experts...only varying degrees of ignorance"
http//:www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/albatros
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Before you buy.
Jmarc
and BUCKEYE have terrible fit and very poorely detailbut there decal sheet is a
verygood .. Those 2 do not stand for the asking prices ! But the worst thing is
the fellow who run this limited run MFG as a very bad manner !You can read more
about this on my personnal website ! Here is the URL :
http://Pages.infinit.net/jmarcpe/
Just click on the link mentionning "BEWARE OF THESE MFG" and you will see that
I'm not the only one...
Hope this can avoid BIG $ deception ..
Jmarc
In article <20000619185815...@ng-fs1.aol.com>, dmcm...@aol.com
says...
HMills16
annoying and petty. Iif you don't like their stuff don't buy it but for God's
sake, enough of the bashing. Get a new story! I have built one Collect-AIre
kit, the OV-1. It was difficult for my average, kit assembler skills but it
was worth it and turned out beautifully. Don't know about the ohters but
Jmarc, you need a new crusade (is the J for Joan?). If you are not a producer
of resin products for the market then enough with the endless slams. Be
productive, not petty
Hugh Mills
KCMO
Fotios Rouch
The XB-51 is a difficult but not impossible model to build.
I have it (not completed yet) and I have seen it built from
three different people. It is mostly accurate. There are
some concerns about the rear end representation.
I do not believe it is the perfect candidate for someone's
first full resin kit.
Al Superczynski used to have a link on his site that would
take you to Frank Mitchell's CA XB-51 and his not so
favorable comments. I am not sure what happened to this
link since Al changed his internet provider.
This is a unique subject and if your heart is into it I
think it is a great model to have.
Second, in reference to Collect-Aire.
As a company, they offer excellent service and they always
have a great collection of old kits. Their prices are high
and reflect the quality of their service.
The resin kits they make should be judged on a case by case
basis only. Even this is a twofold issue. On the one hand
you have to judge the quality and accuracy of the master.
On the other hand you have to consider the quality of the
resin copy (very important since this is what you end up
buying). Collect-Aire has a few different makers they
employ. Some are good, some are great and some do not work
for them anymore.
I have pretty much all of their creations and I can say that
they have to be judged on an individual basis. Some I have
bought doubles of. There are sometimes differences even
between copies of the same kit. We are talking big resin
pieces here and not injection molding. I am partial and I
like almost all of the CA kits I have. I have enjoyed
building every single one of them. I do not collect.
Yes they are expensive but I do not think that their prices
are out of line with what others are asking for comparably
sized kits. Can you only guess what it costs to produce a
kit the size of the XB-51? Besides, I think the makers are
paid quite well too. How else can they absorb the expenses
from 200 kits that they make.
Someone (I think it was BondoPhil) said sometime ago that
this is God's way of telling us that we make too much money!
I remember I laughed at that one.
Anyway, that is enough rumbling.
Just remember that it is companies like Collect-Aire that
can only bring cool and esoteric kits like these.
Fotios
Al Superczynski
<fotios...@isis2000.com> wrote:
>Al Superczynski used to have a link on his site that would
>take you to Frank Mitchell's CA XB-51 and his not so
>favorable comments. I am not sure what happened to this
>link since Al changed his internet provider.
It's been a *long* time since I switched from AOL! Anyway, all
of Frank's reviews and pics are still right where they belong in the
Guest Gallery on my site.
Al Superczynski, MFE
IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968
Check out my want and disposal lists at "Al's Place":
http://www.up-link.net/~modeleral
"Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to,
and the critics will flame you every time."
Fotios Rouch
The link for the XB-51 on Al Superczynski's site is :
http://www.up-link.net/%7Emodeleral/XB-51.html
Sorry Al, I misidentified the link.
The broken link is this one instead (The Big Red Aircraft
Picture Gallery! link).
http://modeleral.freeyellow.com/Al's Place/aircraftpics.html
Regards,
Fotios
Al Superczynski
<fotios...@isis2000.com> wrote:
>The broken link is this one instead (The Big Red Aircraft
>Picture Gallery! link).
>
>http://modeleral.freeyellow.com/Al's Place/aircraftpics.html
I dunno how your browser managed that Fotios, but the correct
link is http://modeleral.freeyellow.com/Al's%20Place/aircraftpics.html
and it seems to be working just fine. Maybe you need to clear the
cache? It could also be that FreeYellow is messing with us - they've
apparently done some "upgrading" that seems to have caused problems on
a bunch of the pages they host.
Jmarc
Well,Like you mention it as to be evaluated one by one!This I realy can't
comment on this !On the subject matter too ! But some of there kist have been
produce in resin and they were definitly way cheaper than what they are asking
for there prices .Here is an EXEMPLE:
FJ-1 FURY...COLLECT-AIR price is .....$90.(us)+post ,CZECH MDL as produce the
same kits and there is saling for $25.(us)
XP-77.......COLLECT-AIR price is......$39.95(us),CZECH MDL as produce the same
kit and it's sale for $15.(us)
X-15A.......COLLECT-AIR price is......$109.(us)+post , PEND D'OREILLE is selling
there as $69.(us)
and so on...
On the service ,Well here is an experience my friend as bought the F11F DEMON
acouple year back and he got the kit left fuselage and right fuselage did match
in they were 2 different sizes ! So he wrote back to COLLECT-AIR and they have
ask him to return the part and thet will send him a replacement part ! He did so
but before he mark the part in side the fuselage so he wanted to be sure he
won't get the same part back and in it's letter he as provided the size the the
other fuselage half .Well,guess what he got the exact same part back ! Well you
do not have to believe me or him ,but he keep all the correspondace in the box
and he show it to me
Well, not only this ..a couple month back I got a note from R.LETANOSKY asking
me if I could place a revion of COLLLECT-AIR kits on my "BEWARE" page so modeler
be aware of what to expect from there product ! About a month later got a very
interesting (non-constructive)letter from LOU MAGGLIO that you can read on my
site !
In conclusion , I defintly agree on the subject matter that they provide the
modeler community with ODD subject but price wise versus quality be aware that
it's another story ...
Jmarc
Jmarc
In article <38FF28E8...@isis2000.com>, Fotios says...
>
>First, in reference to your question.
>
>The XB-51 is a difficult but not impossible model to build.
>I have it (not completed yet) and I have seen it built from
>three different people. It is mostly accurate. There are
>some concerns about the rear end representation.
>I do not believe it is the perfect candidate for someone's
>first full resin kit.
>Al Superczynski used to have a link on his site that would
>take you to Frank Mitchell's CA XB-51 and his not so
>favorable comments. I am not sure what happened to this
>link since Al changed his internet provider.
Fotios Rouch
but I hold Collect-Aire close to my heart so here it goes.
The FJ-1 and XP-77 were released by Collect-Aire years
before Czech Model released theirs. I also never compare
injection product prices with limit run resin productions.
I do not have the X-15 from either source so I cannot
comment.
As far as service goes I have only good experiences with
CA. I have had some problems with some kits, like a part
was missing or was not salvageable. Lou Maglio was always
helpful and fast to react. I was never asked to send back a
damaged piece or was ever deceived.
I also red what you had on your website about Collect-Aire.
I will not comment on your email exchanges as I believe that
they were of a personal nature and they were not meant to
become public.
I will comment on the Buckeye though. Yes, this is not the
best Collect-Aire kit ever made. It does need allot of
work. It certainly does not require you to be superman
though. I built it and I am certain I am not Superman! It
was my sixth resin kit I built.
Lastly, I can offer a personal favorites list if anybody is
interested in CA kits.
These are kits that I have built or I am building
currently. They are accurate, very smooth, light, very much
like if they were injection molded and they go together very
nicely.
4840 F-94C Starfire
4841 T2V-1 Sea Star
4842 F9F-8/8P Cougar
4847 FJ-3/M Fury
4849 AF-2S/3S/2W Guardian
4850 T-34C Turbo Mentor
4852 S-2E Tracker
4854 Mig 19S Farmer C
4855 F8U-3 Super Crusader
4856 Lockheed F-90 Penetrator
I also posted some pictures on alt.binaries.models.scale of
my completed CA kits just to show that they are buildable
with love and patience even by non-masters.
Regards,
Fotios
RLGIRSCH
selling it, not even on e-Bay....................
Dominique Durocher
wrote:
> X-15A.......COLLECT-AIR price is......$109.(us)+post , PEND D'OREILLE is
selling
> there as $69.(us)
The Pend Oreille (ex-Phoenix) kit is an X-15. I need one of these.
The Collect-Aire kit is an X-15A-2, the longer & faster version. A
beautiful kit, BTW.
Dom
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Jmarc
Ihave seen one 3 weeks ago in AVIATION WORLD in TORONTO ! They have a website
and you can order true the WEB !
Jmarc
In article <20000621214440...@ng-cp1.aol.com>, rlgi...@aol.com
says...
John O'Farrell
John O'Farrell
RLGIRSCH
John O'Farrell
RLGIRSCH wrote:
> any usa dealers selling the 1/48 pend-oreille X-15 kit
Doesn't Aviation Usk carrying them? I thought I saw a blurb either on
their website or one of the catalogs I've received from them.
John O'Farrell
mgba...@my-deja.com
any comments on their XP-55 Ascender?
Thanks,
Matt Bailey
william Shuey
Czech Models has announced a 1/48 scale P-55 in their line soon. APC
hobbies says it will be $22.50.
Bill Shuey
Dominique Durocher
> Ihave seen one 3 weeks ago in AVIATION WORLD in TORONTO ! They have a website
> and you can order true the WEB !
> Jmarc
Darn! I was there and didn't see it :(. Well, I'll be back in a few weeks
and will be looking.
Thanks
Dominique Durocher
<jo...@synopsys.com> wrote:
> Does the PO X-15 provide options for building the XLR-11(2) engined version?
If it does I may have to get 2. i could then build all of them (oh no! not
again!).
Jmarc
Tu aurais du me le dire !
Jmarc
In article <draken35-250...@hse-montreal-ppp34179.qc.sympatico.ca>,
drak...@sympatico.ca says...
>
>In article <8it785$q...@drn.newsguy.com>, Jmarc <Jmarc_...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> Ihave seen one 3 weeks ago in AVIATION WORLD in TORONTO ! They have a website
>> and you can order true the WEB !
>> Jmarc
>
>Darn! I was there and didn't see it :(. Well, I'll be back in a few weeks
>and will be looking.
>
>Thanks
>
Jmarc
Tu aurais du me le dire ! Il se trouve dans le showcase arriere ou il y as toute
la resin pour les avions..Bonne chasse
Dominique Durocher
wrote:
> Tu aurais du me le dire !
Si seulement j'avais su! Ou etait-il? Si tu veux voir l'autre, je peux
l'amener au prochain meeting.
René van der Hart
Waarom leren jullie niet een beschaafde taal. Nederlands bijvoorbeeld.
Translation: the first sentence.
Dominique Durocher schreef:
