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MACFARB
Jul 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/29/00
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Just got the reissue and the painting guides have me scratching my head. they
seem a little conjectural. Were the gun carriages brown? Were the guns painted
gray?The only photo I've seen of the Alabama shows Raphael Semmes next to the
pivoting gun and the carriage looks awfully black.Was there a painted water
line? I don't have any experince with 19th century wooden ships. What are the
correct colors for this monster?
seem a little conjectural. Were the gun carriages brown? Were the guns painted
gray?The only photo I've seen of the Alabama shows Raphael Semmes next to the
pivoting gun and the carriage looks awfully black.Was there a painted water
line? I don't have any experince with 19th century wooden ships. What are the
correct colors for this monster?
AMPSOne
Jul 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/29/00
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I don't think anyone knows for sure. Most helpful place I've found is run by
the University of Alabama and gives the intelligence reports from Union spies
in England during 1862. They give pretty good details of the color, other than
you have to figure out "Bright" appears to be clear lacquered wood and "Drab"
is seasoned but unlacquered wood.
the University of Alabama and gives the intelligence reports from Union spies
in England during 1862. They give pretty good details of the color, other than
you have to figure out "Bright" appears to be clear lacquered wood and "Drab"
is seasoned but unlacquered wood.
Here is the URL:
http://www.slis.ua.edu/tgtest/cssala/
Enjoy!
Cookie Sewell
AMPS
Steveccis
Jul 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/29/00
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In reading the spy reports and the testimony by the "Brilliant's" captain, I
had assumed that "bright" meant white and "drab" perhaps grey. Could this be
the case since the ship itself is described as "painted black outside and drab
inside" by the Brilliant's captain?
had assumed that "bright" meant white and "drab" perhaps grey. Could this be
the case since the ship itself is described as "painted black outside and drab
inside" by the Brilliant's captain?
Steve
AMPSOne
Jul 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/29/00
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Not when you look at the contemporary paintings and many preserved ships. The
items like the deck were holystoned clean and thus had no finish nor OSHA
approved non-skid surfaces on them, whereas most of the parts which did not
bear such traffic were polished and protected from the elements with paint or
varnish.
items like the deck were holystoned clean and thus had no finish nor OSHA
approved non-skid surfaces on them, whereas most of the parts which did not
bear such traffic were polished and protected from the elements with paint or
varnish.
Cookie Sewell
AMPS
David Graf
Jul 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/29/00
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Definitely not my area of expertise, but I recall reading that Confederate
naval guns made of iron were often painted grey as an anti-corrosive
measure. Unpainted bronze guns were also used, but I believe they were less
common.
Dave
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Adakian
Jul 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/30/00
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I have found some color references in the Ordnance Instructions for the U.S.
Navy, 1864 that may be applicable, at least to the ship's weaponry. The U.S.
Navy used a combination of lacquers and paints to cover a variety of metal and
wood surfaces. The lacquers would have left the cast iron in its natural dark
metallic gray finish. The Navy also had formulas for a black paint for metal
parts of gun carriages (and I would presume other metal surfaces on board
ship). The Instructions also have formulas for black paint for gun carriages
(mentioned as British practice) and olive paint to consist, in part, of 68
pounds of yellow ochre (pulverized) and 1.1 pounds of lampblack. Some other
parts of the cannon, such as the elevating screw and the compressors for the
carriage would have had a "bright" (i.e. almost chrome) finish.
Navy, 1864 that may be applicable, at least to the ship's weaponry. The U.S.
Navy used a combination of lacquers and paints to cover a variety of metal and
wood surfaces. The lacquers would have left the cast iron in its natural dark
metallic gray finish. The Navy also had formulas for a black paint for metal
parts of gun carriages (and I would presume other metal surfaces on board
ship). The Instructions also have formulas for black paint for gun carriages
(mentioned as British practice) and olive paint to consist, in part, of 68
pounds of yellow ochre (pulverized) and 1.1 pounds of lampblack. Some other
parts of the cannon, such as the elevating screw and the compressors for the
carriage would have had a "bright" (i.e. almost chrome) finish.
Hope you find this helpful. Good luck!
A. J. Daverede
Lanham, MD
IPMS 33505
Steveccis
Jul 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/30/00
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Yes, in retrospect this makes more sense. Also, I found a reference to
"bright" as being varnished wood on one of the ship modeling sites.
"bright" as being varnished wood on one of the ship modeling sites.
Steve
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