Favorite Rocket for Level 1 Certification
Pete Howarth
certification and what motors they used with it for certifing? Are
there any su 'h' motors? Or only reloads? I've been doing reloads for
years, but never had anybody stand over me watching me put it together
so I'd rather use a Single Use 'h' if I can.
Pete
Dave
(or more) responses to this post.
As far as motors, yes, there are single-use "H" motors, but because of
the legal issues involved with buying and using them, it is much
easier to use reloads.
Try the Cesaroni Pro-38 H153. The Pro-38s are nearly as convenient as
single-use motors, without the legal issues. Contact Magnum or Rocket
Silo and ask about them.
For rockets, try a 3- or 4-inch Public Missiles Kit. A lot of folks in
my area have used the Small Endeavour with great success.
Dave
On 28 Jul 2002 16:48:16 -0700, howa...@space.com (Pete Howarth)
wrote:
Phil Stein
BlackJack motors were available I liked to fly it with the H97 (38mm),
It makes a nice not to fast easy to track flight. It's built without
any mods (I use rail buttons instead of lugs) to PML's instructions.
Many people will stear you away from the piston but, I like it. For
it to operate properly, you have to make sure it moves freely in the
body tube. Sand the piston if it doesn't.
Phil Stein
On 28 Jul 2002 16:48:16 -0700, howa...@space.com (Pete Howarth)
wrote:
>I was wondering what rocket kits others have used for level
John Davies
Builds easy--Flies GREAT !!!
Certified on an H123-M
Also flies great on an H124-M
Thomas Parson
COOL!!!!!!! Pics on website.
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PHITS Member NAR Section #565
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David
flexible enough to fly from G64 up through I284. It might hold together on
a J350 without any modifications, but I haven't tried it yet. My L1 was on
an H73. The rocket is just so stable it is hard to go wrong.
-- David
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Steve Wolfe
Scratch-build yer own. : )
I211 and J350. At HellFire, it'll fly on a J570.
steve
John DeMar
>
> One of my favorite H Motor kits is the PML Small Endeavor, When AT
> BlackJack motors were available I liked to fly it with the H97 (38mm),
You've inhaled too much blackjack smoke... that's a 29mm motor. ;)
-John
Chuck Rudy
Peter Stanley
the help) I have since added an 18" payload extension, and an altimeter bay.
I will attempt my level 2 with it this September, in Orangeburg.
Peter Stanley
TRA 8993
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Dickinson's
the 29mm case and "won" a reload from Aerotech during LDRS99 in Argonia. I
used the crayon bank from Toys R Us, and made the parachute out of an old
golf umbrella. You can find the plans for building this in the latest Sport
Rocketry, Thanks to Bob Kaplow. I uploaded a Windows Media Format video of
one of my flights on my rocket web page, under "Other" . There are also
still photos of it as well as my larger crayon. Hope this helps!
http://members.cox.net/shortckt4/main.htm ( for frames) or
http://members.cox.net/shortckt4/Rockets1.html (no Frames)
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Phil Stein
J that I forget. It was a 38mm though.
Phil Stein
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:52:51 -0400, John DeMar <jsd...@syr.edu>
wrote:
Phil Stein
yea you have to use it to have a problem.
BTW you left your dog barf in with my stuff at NY Power. Please take
it.
Phil Stein
Anthony
LOC kits, but as for your post I like the LOC IV for L1 flight, flew mine on
an H128.
Anthony
John Davies
AN H242-M is what I ment.
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Gary
used...
I also love the design. I built mine to make it easy to include or
omit the payload section (without it, it has the overall dimensions of
the Excel). Flew it with Payload to cert on an H180. Flies on
smaller H's and big G's without the Payload, and now that I've added
an altimeter bay, it's great fun on big I's. If I had access to a
larger field, I could have done my level 2 cert with it (but I built a
5.5" scratchbuilt instead).
I'll be flying it again at the METRA launch on Sat.
Gary
Justin Helbig
Chuck Pierce
wrote:
>I was wondering what rocket kits others have used for level
>certification and what motors they used with it for certifing?
Kurt, oh Kurt, where ist thou list o' recommended L1 rockets? :-)
I really like the BSD Horizon for L1 certs. I actually cert'd with an
H128, because it's all that I could get my hands on at the time. A
3.3-lb Horizon does about 1200 feet with an H128, which is a good cert
altitude; however, in stock configuration (no altimeter), I think that
the I161 and I357 are my favorite motors though. With the altimeter
bay, it's got 6-grain Pro38 written all over it. <grin> I also cert'd
L2 with it BTW, after I'd added in a modular electronics bay. To this
day, it's still one of my favorite rockets, logging two 6-grain Pro38
flights at LDRS this year.
Chuck
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cpierce_AT_knology.net
David
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Pete Howarth
The BSD site shows the Horizon 3in. and 4in, I'm assuming the one you
mention here is the 4in. rocket correct? Does it come with the decals that
the 3in. Horizon does? I don't care for the scheme on the rocket in the pic
on the page with the kid holding it.
Pete
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Bob Kaplow
> Kurt, oh Kurt, where ist thou list o' recommended L1 rockets? :-)
Well, since he hasn't responded yet, here's what I've collected of his posts
and others. Sorry, tere are some duplicate entries...
Alex Mericas - PML Eclipse on a J-350 (electronic deployment)
Andrew Waddell - PML AMRAAM-4
Andrew Waddell - PML AMRAAM-4 on H123
Andrew Waddell - PML Bulldog on a J275W
Andrew Waddell - PML Tethys <<ADW correction 9/19/00; actually it was our
BJamesSr. - Binder Excel Plus cloned from LOC parts, with H123 reload
Bill Davenport - PML Endeavor 4", stock on a J-350 medium delay.
Bill Davenport - PML Pterodactyl Jr
Bill Horner - LOC Forte on H128-M
Bill Muth - PML Endeavor H123
Bill Nelson - Loc Lil' Nuke on an H238
Bob Chmara - Stretched Minie Magg on a J350m
Bob Kaplow - LOC IV on a Ravenna H89
Bob Kaplow - Thoy Falcon on J350
Bob Wiersbe - PML Endeavor J350
Bruce Kirchner - 4" scratch built phenolic tubes and g10 fins on a J350.
Bruce Kirchner - PML Pteradactyl Jr on an H242 ( Public Enemy 4" Bullpup
Charlotte Potter - PML Bull Puppy on a H238
Chip Jenkins - Public Enemy 4" Bullpup on H238
Chris English - PML Type 'A' Eclipse, J350
Christopher Deem - Streched THOY Falcon. J350-M, motor ejection
Chuck Walden - 3x Centuri Groove Tube on an H238M.
Chuck Walden - 3x upscale Centuri Groove Tube on an H238
Connery Carroll - Modified Aerotech Strongarm
Connery Carroll - Rocket Dynamic Systems 54mm Northstar J350 with altimeter
ejec
tion
Curtis Scholl - Cluster-R 4" Skyraider on a 54mm J-180
Curtis Scholl - PML Callisto on an H97
Dale Emory - LOC EZI-65 with a J180-10T
Dale Windsor - AAA Magnum Pennsylvania Crude on a Vulcan H142 HF
Dale Windsor - LOC Magnum on an Aerotech J350
Dan Ledenican - PML Arial
Darrel Waller - LOC EZI-65 with an H123
Darren J Longhorn - Modified PML Miranda on J350
Darren Longhorn - PML Arial
Dave Barber - Yank Enterprises 3" IRIS on an H-123
Dave Lyle - Rocket R&D 2.6" Sandhawk on an H128-M
Dave Rose - Modified Loc Warlok on J275
David Urbanek - modified Public Enemy Psycho on Kosdon J280
David Wallis - LOC IV on Aerotech H128W
David Weinshenker - PML X-Calibur on Aerotech H128W
Delay.......Wahoo!!!
Dick Stafford - 6 foot long, 8 1/4 inch diameter scratch build - J350
Dick Stafford - Scratch-built 8 inch sonotube rocket (The Great Googly
Moogly),
J350-S,
Duane Cole - LOC Minie Magg
Dwight Brown - LOC EZI-65
Gary R Goldenbaum - Pml Ariel on a H238
Gene Constanza - ARG EV-3 on an H128-S
Gene Costanza - ARG, Ltd. EV-3
Hank Ball - Scotglas 3.9" Nike Smoke on J180, motor ejection
James L. Marino - Scratch built 3X Cherokee "J" on a J350L using magnetic
apogee
sensor
James Marino - PML Small Endeavor
Jane Piette - Modified LOC EZI-65 on a H123-S
Jeff Martin - Rocket R & D 2.6" Army Hawk on an H128W-M
Jeff Potter - PML Little Lunar Express
Jeff Potter - PML Phenolic Sudden Rush, Fiberglassed, scrapped the CPR and
pisto
ns
Jeff Potter - PML Sudden Rush on a J460
Jeffery Potter, Sr. - PML Small Endeavor
Jeffrey M Jones - PML Calisto on an H123
Jeromy ? - PML Callisto on H112J
John F. Stein - modified for dual deployment LOC EZI-65 on a J350-L with
John Hattan - Scratch "I Go Wooosh" (2.5" x 7') on a J570
John Marvin - Slightly modified Aerotech Mirage on an H180-M
John O'Donnell - LOC Caliber ISP, stock, H70 or 90 (can't remember which
John O'Donnell - Rocket R&D ARCAS on a J350 with an Adept ALTS2 for dual
deploym
ent.
John Stein - EZI-65 (minor mods) on H128-6
Kathy Miller - LOC Wqrlok on a Pro38 J300
Kevin Mcgrath - Modified LOC Magnum on a 54mm J460, motor ejection
Kurt Kesler - Binder Excel Plus with 38mm motor mount, H123 motor.
Kurt Kesler - LOC Magnum on J350
Larry akazilla? - THOY Phoenix on an I 211
Les Kurz - Binder Excel Plus
Les Kurz - Binder Excel Plus on H128-S
Lewis Garrow - Amraam 4 with an I211....yeeehaaa!
Lewis Garrow - LOC Syonic on a J390 Turbo-hybrid, redundant altimeters
Mark B. Bundick - Phantom 4000 HD with a forgotten Vulcan Systems H motor
Mark Daughtry SR. - Loc Minie Magg w/mods on H220
Mark Havener - Binder Design Sentinel w/ 54 mm mount on I-161
Mark Recktenwald - H97J-S in my CR4, a scratch-built 4"x46" rocket with
Mark Saunders - BSD Horizon on an H123W
Mark Simpson - LOC IV on an H97
Mark Simpson - TCB Thunder on a J350
Matt Stum - Highly modified LOC Magnum (4 trapezoidal fins,
zipperless-baffle),
K550, motor ejection.
Michael Naunton - PML Sudden Rush on an I211
Michael Naunton - PML Ultimate Endeavor on a J800
Mike Bear - Scratch Built 4" Upscale Mosquito on AT H128-S
Mike DIckinson - 4 inch crayon bank conversion
Mike Pearson - Binder Design Thug on an H128
Mike Toelle - Slightly modified Aerotech Mirage on a H238-10
Neil Tarasoff - Public Enemy Honest John on a J350-M
Neil Tarasoff - Public Enemy Honest John with an I-357T Med
Neil Tarasoff - Public Enemy Honest John with an I-357T Med
Nikita Piankov - PML AMRAAM-4 on a J350-M (electronic deployment)
Nikita Piankov - PML Small Endeavor
Norm Dziedzic - PML Small Endeavour H128W-M
Norman Heyen - LOC EZI-65 on H242
Paul Smith - NCR Archer on an H128-M
Peter Khor - Minie-Magg on a H128/H180/H238/H123/H242 (all short delay)
Peter Khor - PML Black Brant X on a J350W-Medium
Richard Fitzwell - Yank Concept One, J-275 motor ejection
Rick Dickinson - 6" scratch-built fiberglassed Sonotube crayon rocket on a
J350
Rick Dickinson - RalphCo 4" diameter crayon bank conversion on an H128
Ron Johnson - PML Quasar
Ron Zeppin - Scratch built 4" diameter,80" tall. 3-fin. G-10 fin material.
Elect
ronic dual deployment using a Cambridge IAX-96. Aerotech K550
Sean Guilday - PML 1/4 Patriot on H242
Shaun Longhorn - PML Bullpuppy on Aerotech H128W
Steve Bloom - Stretched Minie Magg on a J350m
Steve Lacroix - Public Enemy Extreme Performer - J90W
Steve Malin - PML Tethys
Steve Piette - Modified NCR Phantom 4K on a H128-S
Steve Shannon - PML Explorer on H242
Ted Mahler - LOC IV with fin mods
Tim Hansford - LOC/Graduator modified on a H238
Timothy Melton - PML Eclipse on a J-350 (electronic deployment)
Todd Mullen - LOC Brusier J350
Todd Mullen - LOC Minie Magg H242
Tom Binford - LOC Magnum, J350-M (S on windy days) or EZI-65 on a J90-M
Transolve P3 Altimeter - Aerotech J460
William Beggs, Jr. - PML D-Region Tomahawk on J-350 L
Woody From the land of no "real" beer (UT) - 4" scratch-built, PML tubing,
G-10
fins, no fiberglass, no electronics, J350 motor
Woody Miller - PML Phobus or X-Caliber, or Rocketman Litl' Kahuna on a
Woody Miller - Rocketman Explorer 7 (on a J350-M)
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
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Larry Pollack
modified for dual deply and a Hypertek J317 for Level 2.
In article <uk9asj5...@corp.supernews.com>, pstanley001
@nospam.charter.net says...
John DeMar
That's before the levels were combined. (TRA has one big all-in-one cert
level at the time).
Then had an I211 blow through (old delay design) in 1993 on my first J
cert attempt. And then a dismounted RDAS on my second L2 attempt in 2000
at LDRS. Nice record eh? ;)
-john
Chuck Pierce
>The BSD site shows the Horizon 3in. and 4in, I'm assuming the one you
>mention here is the 4in. rocket correct? Does it come with the decals that
>the 3in. Horizon does? I don't care for the scheme on the rocket in the pic
>on the page with the kid holding it.
Yeah, Pete, it's the 4" Horizon. It ships with the 'Horizon,' and
'BSD High Power Rocketry' vinyl decals, and the gold stripe (though I
chose to paint the gold stripe instead). I went with a navy blue nose
on mine, instead of black, on mine.
A picture is worth a thousands words, eh <grin>:
http://www.knology.net/~cpierce/modelrockets/misc/Horizon_LDRS21_J330.jpg
(Pro38 J330 (6-grain) launched at LDRS, peak altitude was 4275').
This one has been elongated with a scratch-built modular payload bay.
cp
Kurt Kesler
cpierce...@knology.net says...
> On 28 Jul 2002 16:48:16 -0700, howa...@space.com (Pete Howarth)
> wrote:
>
> >I was wondering what rocket kits others have used for level
> >certification and what motors they used with it for certifing?
>
>
> Kurt, oh Kurt, where ist thou list o' recommended L1 rockets? :-)
>
Folks, please keep in mind this is supposed to be the list of
recommended rocket/motor combinations for L1 certification...not the
list of who certed with what. If you would not recommend what you used
for certification to a newbie please don't submit it for the list as
they might not know, for example, that a single deployment VB Extreme 38
on an I284 is not really a good cert choice.
Nikita Piankov - PML Small Endeavor
Bill Davenport - PML Pterodactyl Jr
Steve Malin - PML Tethys
Ted Mahler - LOC IV with fin mods
James Marino - PML Small Endeavor
Dwight Brown - LOC EZI-65
Andrew Waddell - PML AMRAAM-4 on H123
Rick Dickinson - RalphCo 4" diameter crayon bank conversion on an H128
Lewis Garrow - Amraam 4 with an I211....yeeehaaa!
Neil Tarasoff - Public Enemy Honest John with an I-357T Med
Delay.......Wahoo!!!
Bruce Kirchner - PML Pteradactyl Jr on an H242 ( Public Enemy 4" Bullpup
on an I357 medium also rates a Wahoo! )
Darren Longhorn - PML Arial
Dan Ledenican - PML Arial
Jeffery Potter, Sr. - PML Small Endeavor
Michael Naunton - PML Sudden Rush on an I211
Les Kurz - Binder Excel Plus on H128-S
Kurt Kesler - Binder Excel Plus with 38mm motor mount, H123 motor.
Charlotte Potter - PML Bull Puppy on a H238
Jeff Potter - PML Little Lunar Express
Dave Lyle - Rocket R&D 2.6" Sandhawk on an H128-M
Mike DIckinson - 4 inch crayon bank conversion
Peter Khor - Minie-Magg on a H128/H180/H238/H123/H242 (all short delay)
Ted Cochran--LOC IV, all yellow glue, no fin mods, zipperless
construction, H128 for NAR, H180 for TRA
Bill Nelson - Loc Lil' Nuke on an H238
Bill Horner - LOC Forte on H128-M
Paul Smith - NCR Archer on an H128-M
Curtis Scholl - PML Callisto on an H97
Mark Simpson - LOC IV on an H97
Gene Costanza - ARG EV-3 on an H128-S
Connery Carroll - Modified Aerotech Strongarm
Ted Cochran, LOC-IV built with zipperless mod and no epoxy; H-128W-S
Chip Jenkins - Public Enemy 4" Bullpup on H238
Mark Daughtry SR. - Loc Minie Magg w/mods on H220
Ron Johnson - PML Quasar
John Stein - EZI-65 (minor mods) on H128-6
Jeromy ? - PML Callisto on H112J
Mike Toelle - Slightly modified Aerotech Mirage on a H238-10
BJamesSr. - Binder Excel Plus cloned from LOC parts, with H123 reload
John O'Donnell - LOC Caliber ISP, stock, H70 or 90 (can't remember which
- aluminum casing, single use)
Mike Pearson - Binder Design Thug on an H128
John Marvin - Slightly modified Aerotech Mirage on an H180-M
Mark B. Bundick - Phantom 4000 HD with a forgotten Vulcan Systems H
motor
Woody Miller - PML Phobus or X-Caliber, or Rocketman Litl' Kahuna on a
H123-M
Todd Mullen - LOC Minie Magg H242
Norman Heyen - LOC EZI-65 on H242
Chuck Walden - 3x upscale Centuri Groove Tube on an H238
Norm Dziedzic - PML Small Endeavour H128W-M
Bob Kaplow - LOC IV on a Ravenna H89
Mike Bear - Scratch Built 4" Upscale Mosquito on AT H128-S
Dave Barber - Yank Enterprises 3" IRIS on an H-123
Mark Recktenwald - H97J-S in CR4, scratch-built 4"x46" rocket with
side-looking, auto-winding 35mm camera in payload bay.
Jeff Martin - Rocket R & D 2.6" Army Hawk on an H128W-M
Duane Cole - LOC Minie Magg with H124J-6
Mark Havener - Binder Design Sentinel w/ 54 mm mount on I-161
Sean Guilday - PML 1/4 Patriot on H242
Steve Shannon - PML Explorer on H242
Bill Muth - PML Endeavor H123
Shaun Longhorn - PML Bullpuppy on Aerotech H128W
David Weinshenker - PML X-Calibur on Aerotech H128W
David Wallis - LOC IV on Aerotech H128W
Steve Piette - Modified NCR Phantom 4K on a H128-S
Jane Piette - Modified LOC EZI-65 on a H123-S
Chuck Pierce - BSD Horizon H128-M
Michael Roy Hollihan - LOC Graduator w/ fin tab reinforcement on H97
Ron Hatteberg - BSD Thor I211-M
Rick Polzello - PML 1/4 Patriot on an H128-S
Lance Lickteig - PML Callisto (Stock) on an H128
Dan Gebhardt - BSD Horizon on H123-M
Rob Bazinet - PML Bullpuppy on an H124FJ
Jeff Jones - Rocketman Wahoo on an I211W
Ned Nassif - Thoy Falcon on a Rocketflite H330ss
Rick James - LOC IV with 3rd CR, eye bolt for recovery attachment, TK
Bob Ellis - NCR Interceptor G on an H128-S
Dan Gebhardt - BSD Horizon on H123
Peter Clay - scratchbuilt 2.24" CoStar on H128W-M
John Davies - BSD Horizon on an H123S
Thomas Parson - LOC Minnie Mag on an H123 S
Mike Walsh - NCR Patriot (modified ) on H123-M
Bryan Chuck - LOC IV with an H128
Donald Qualls - Binder Designs Thug (converted to plywood centering
rings, 3 of them) with an H128-M
Kris Piwowarski - RDS Quasar on I284W-M
Mario Perdue - Small Endeavor on H128
Ted Phipps - upscaled Centuri Groove Tube, all yellow glue construction,
anti-zipper, H124-M
Murray Lampert - PML Intruder + Pro38 260H110 motor
Joel Corwith - Binder Design's Excel + on H73-6
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Chuck Pierce
>Yeah, Pete, it's the 4" Horizon. It ships with the 'Horizon,' and
>'BSD High Power Rocketry' vinyl decals, and the gold stripe (though I
>chose to paint the gold stripe instead). I went with a navy blue nose
>on mine, instead of black, on mine.
BTW, the only regret that I have with this rocket is that I went with
the 38mm motor tube, instead of the 54mm, counter to the sage advice
that I'd received from others. If you're just going to fly L1 motors
with it, 38mm is fine. However, now that I'm flying quite a few J
motors, I'm regretting not being able to stuff my 54mm 835cc Hypertek
J motor up the tail pipe. When getting a HPR rocket, just remember
that you can always adapt down for smaller motors, but you can't adapt
up bigger motors.
FWIW,
cp
Bob Kaplow
> Folks, please keep in mind this is supposed to be the list of
> recommended rocket/motor combinations for L1 certification...not the
> list of who certed with what. If you would not recommend what you used
> for certification to a newbie please don't submit it for the list as
> they might not know, for example, that a single deployment VB Extreme 38
> on an I284 is not really a good cert choice.
I thought this was the opposite: a survey of what you certified with. I
certainly wouldn't recommend the use of a motor that hasn't been available
for over a decade for a cert flight. But that's what I used back in 1989.
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
>>> To reply, remove the planet name <<<
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liberty. -- Thomas Jefferson
Dickinson's
about the individual and his level of skill and understanding of the
"dynamics" of rocket flight, does he have a good group of knowledgeable
peers to mentor him, how much he is willing to spend, etc. Otherwise you can
only state to him "Here is what I used and how and why". With these type of
responses hopefully he can get the knowledge, and help he needs to make an
intelligent decision to complete his task.
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Happy Flying!
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Kurt Kesler
short...@cox.knet says...
> Kurt I agree, however before you can really recommend, you need to know more
> about the individual and his level of skill and understanding of the
> "dynamics" of rocket flight, does he have a good group of knowledgeable
> peers to mentor him, how much he is willing to spend, etc. Otherwise you can
> only state to him "Here is what I used and how and why". With these type of
> responses hopefully he can get the knowledge, and help he needs to make an
> intelligent decision to complete his task.
>
> --
> Happy Flying!
> Mike Dickinson
> shortckt-at-netzero.net
> change the -at- to respond
> http://members.cox.net/shortckt4
The list came about as a result of many threads regarding recommended L1
cert questions. Every week someone would ask what rocket and motor they
should use for their cert flight and dozens of people would respond.
Then it would be repeated the next week when someone else asked. I
collected the answers and posted the list.
--
Kurt Kesler
Paul Lavin
I have a Lil Nuke that turned into a BF Nuke with 700mm of nose
extension and then got weirder when 29mm motors became unto rocking
horse manure. It is about to find itself sitting on 200mm long boat
tail section with a 38mm hole in the bottom!
P
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:25:24 GMT, "Anthony" <abona...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Doug Sams
>I was wondering what rocket kits others have used for level
>certification and what motors they used with it for certifing? Are
>there any su 'h' motors? Or only reloads? I've been doing reloads for
>years, but never had anybody stand over me watching me put it together
>so I'd rather use a Single Use 'h' if I can.
Hi, Pete,
For L1, I like the rocket that doesn't zipper (twice), CATO or crash, which in
my case was a LOC HiTech H45 on an H153. While I didn't have a particular
fetish for CTI motors, theirs was made of APCP while it seems many of the others
I had considered were made from unobtanium.
As for a single-use H motor, they're dang hard to get right now, but if you've
done hobby reloads, the H153 is a snap, and it's no sweat doing an H128 or H180.
The person who's proctoring your L1 will be helpful; it's not bar exam.
Doug
Mark Saunders
Mark Saunders
BSD High Power Rocketry
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Mark Saunders
you want. Plus, it has the extended payload section and is a snap to
configure for dual deployment.
Mark Saunders
BSD High Power Rocketry
"Chuck Pierce" <cpi...@knology.net> wrote in message
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Chuck Pierce
<tra...@dancris.com> wrote:
>Atta boy, Chuck. Keep plugg'n away.
Hey, Mark, have I qualified for that free rocket yet, or do I still
have a few more plugs to go? :-)
cp
Chr$
NSL2002 I flew it on it's maiden flight on a F-23. Flew perfectly.
Later that night, I installed a 10" payload section with over $50
worth of glowwrap for a night launch. The G80-10 SU I loaded into it
decided not to fire it's ejection charge and Prang! Glowwrap=confetti.
Lucky for me Rocket Silo 2.0 was there and open. I repaired the thing
with a 36" section of PML Quantum Tubing attached to the remaining 10
inches of the airframe, scraped the core sample remains of of the
nose, and flew it the next morning, on an H-128 Reload. Beautiful
flight.
I am now installing an Intel Play camera in the payload section.
It's a great little rocket for your First mid/high power rocket. It
builds like a modroc, with the only difference being no motor hook and
epoxy instead of wood glue. And it scales up nicely. Oh it only costs
28 bucks.
Have fun!
-Chr$ NAR 79536 L1