WHAT'S THE DIF. BETWEEN ESTES AND AEROTECH
Luke Godin
estes. i have always flown estes rockets and don't know about aerotech.
thanks
Tai Fu
Aerotech rockets is bigger and stronger. is that a difference?
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Peter Clay
>can someone e-mail me the difference between aerotech rockets and estes. i
have always flown estes rockets and don't know about aerotech.
Estes rocket motors are based on black powder, with disposable paper casings,
and range from 1/4A to D. Aerotech motors are based on AP (Ammonium
Perchlorate) composite, similar to what the Space Shuttle's solid rocket
boosters use, and they range from C through N. That is, they're much more
powerful. Aerotech's small motors have disposable casings, while the larger
ones are reloadable and have aluminum shells.
Estes started out as a hobby company and now makes mostly rocket-based toys.
Aerotech is a part of a company that makes professional rocket motors, and its
products are serious and high-quality.
You can get an Estes starter kit with rocket, launcher, and two or three B
motors for about $25. The Aerotech Initiator starter set has the same stuff,
bigger, with an E and an F motor, for about $125, if I recall correctly.
There are other companies making both kinds. Quest and Apogee make small black
powder motors; Ellis Mountain and Kosdon make big composite ones, just for
example.
Since rockets above a certain size and power are regulated by several federal
agencies, the big ones are used differently. In a park or schoolyard, the Estes
ones are better. For a beginner or someone with a low budget, Estes is better.
For staging, clustering, and boost-glide, Estes type is easier and cheaper.
Last year I flew about 75 Estes type and 7 Aerotech. I've been flying off and
on since 1965.
Peter W. Clay NAR 18619 SR L1
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Dan Schneider
>can someone e-mail me the difference between aerotech rockets and
>estes. i have always flown estes rockets and don't know about aerotech.
>
In a nutshell, Estes rockets are designed to be flown in the A through D
range. Aerotech rockets are designed to fly in the E-G range. Both can be
modified to work in higher ranges.
Aerotech rockets are beefier, sturdier, and a bunch of other stuff that you
would expect to see in a rocket using motors in that range. Don't overlook
the other smaller makers of model and mid-power rockets that are out there.
You can get to just about all of them through http://www.rocketryonline.com.
Dan Schneider
Poseidon@Rocketryonline
http://home.postnet.com/~poseidon
Bart Lidofsky
: Estes started out as a hobby company and now makes mostly rocket-based toys.
: Aerotech is a part of a company that makes professional rocket motors, and its
: products are serious and high-quality.
How much do people who use Aerotech motors get paid?
Bart Lidofsky
Joel C Simon
Bart Lidofsky <ba...@escape.com> wrote in message
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> How much do people who use Aerotech motors get paid?
It's a little-known fact that Aerotech pays a quarterly stipend to all who
go on newsgroups and popular rocketry web forums to A) praise Aerotech
motors and rocket kits, B) publicly malign all other motor manufacturers,
and C) concoct new and evil rumors about Jerry Irvine. Finally, they must
also D) in the dead of night, break into the homes of rocket flyers who use
other manufacturers' motors to commit acts of sabotage which perpetuate the
myth of Aerotech supremacy and punish those reckless rebels who attempt to
flee the evil Aerotech tyranny. To quote someone whose name shall remain
nameless (except that it's also the name of a southern California city,)
"The Conspiracy Lives!" :^)
But you don't actually get paid just to use the motors. At least I don't.
Joel
Bob Kaplow
My initial thought was something like the characters in "The Wizard of Oz":
one needs a heart, and the other needs a brain :-)
> Estes rocket motors are based on black powder, with disposable paper casings,
> and range from 1/4A to D. Aerotech motors are based on AP (Ammonium
> Perchlorate) composite, similar to what the Space Shuttle's solid rocket
> boosters use, and they range from C through N. That is, they're much more
> powerful. Aerotech's small motors have disposable casings, while the larger
> ones are reloadable and have aluminum shells.
estes does make composite F motors under the NCR brand.
Aerotech no longer makes anything smaller than a D motor.
Aerotech does/did make a pretty full range of expendables but most of the
larger expendables have vanished due to reload cost being so much lower.
> Estes started out as a hobby company and now makes mostly rocket-based toys.
> Aerotech is a part of a company that makes professional rocket motors, and its
> products are serious and high-quality.
Well, AT is at least serious. Quality often varies.
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Bob Kaplow
I suppose I should 'fess up. I too get big checks from Quest for bashing
estes all the time.
In my dreams :-)
Peter Clay
>: Aerotech is a part of a company that makes professional rocket motors, <
Bart Lidofsky replied (in jest)
>How much do people who use Aerotech motors get paid?
>
be the *motors* that get paid. I bought two A/T 29/180 reloads today, and I
assure you I am not money ahead for having done it.
:-) but no regrets, you understand...
P.W.C.
Dale Greene
>
> How much do people who use Aerotech motors get paid?
>
> Bart Lidofsky
It depends where you work , Bart.If you get paid minimum wage and fly
AT motors you will be paid less than 10K per year.If you have a skilled
job you can make 30K to 40K per year. And if you are a star athlete or
corrupt politician who flys AT motors you can make millions!
--
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Southern Pennsylvania Area Association of Rocketry Section 503
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Before you buy.
R. J. Talley
is linked. This you would know if you listened more to your English teacher.
You know, the "picky" one that you placed on your "Dis" list because she
looks at you like a witch. C'm on Tai, the grammar police are watching.
Also, rockets are not stronger, at least in the sense that they possess no
power of their own. However, they do use more powerful engines. Aerotech
typically ranges from E to G power and thus are called mid-power rockets.
These motors range in diameter from 24 to 29mm. Thus, they are more powerful
than Estes rockets. Internal construction differs too as a result of the
extra stress these higher power motors place on the airframes.
RT
Tai Fu wrote in message <3869EC42...@wt.net>...
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>Luke Godin wrote:
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>> can someone e-mail me the difference between aerotech rockets and
>> estes. i have always flown estes rockets and don't know about aerotech.
>>
>> thanks
R. J. Talley
Valencia?
R J Talley
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>Bart Lidofsky <ba...@escape.com> wrote in message
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>> How much do people who use Aerotech motors get paid?
>
>It's a little-known fact that Aerotech pays a quarterly stipend to all who
>go on newsgroups and popular rocketry web forums to A) praise Aerotech
>motors and rocket kits, B) publicly malign all other motor manufacturers,
>and C) concoct new and evil rumors about Jerry Irvine. Finally, they must
>also D) in the dead of night, break into the homes of rocket flyers who use
>other manufacturers' motors to commit acts of sabotage which perpetuate the
>myth of Aerotech supremacy and punish those reckless rebels who attempt to
>flee the evil Aerotech tyranny. To quote someone whose name shall remain
>nameless (except that it's also the name of a southern California city,)
>"The Conspiracy Lives!" :^)
>
Joel C Simon
R. J. Talley <om...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Gee, I didn't know Luther Burbank was so quotable. Or did you mean Raul
> Valencia?
Frederico Mission Viejo.
R. J. Talley
R J Talley
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Leonard Fehskens
wrote
>Aerotech no longer makes anything smaller than a D motor.
But Apogee sells composite motors (made by Aerotech?) as small as B.
len.
(BTW, the Apogee B composite is a way cool little motor...)