I sprayed on a coat of "Painter's Touch" gloss white. Went on fine over
Krlyon primer, looked great, I think "Hey, Rustoleum's good stuff."
24 hours later, I sand out some dust spots and spray another coat on...
... and I get a bunch of wrinkles! Not everywhere - mostly the really
hard to sand places.
The can says recoat within 1 hour or after 24... the only thing I can
think of is that the recoat window is a little longer then they claim.
Especially where the paint is thick. Can I avoid this problem by waiting
more than 24 hours?
The only other thing that touched the rocket was a tack cloth, but I
wiped the rocket pretty thoroughly with the cloth before the 1st coat &
the 1st coat went on fine.
Oh well.. back to the sanding board... and probably to Krlyon "recoat
anytime" for my next project. Any thoughts appreciated.
Rustoleum can be a real pain in the ass! As for my experience's I would let
it sit a week in between coats. I have trashed up several really nice
paint jobs by applying the second coat too early. This paint has to totally
dry out before the second app. If you don't really need that specific
color stick to krylon. You can get a really nice finish after about 6 to 8
coats. Krylon has been much more user friendly for me.
Good luck.
Mike Burch
Berkley, Michigan.
Yep... It is a feature.
> The can says recoat within 1 hour or after 24... the only thing I can
I think it should have said that you should recoat after 1-3 hours
or 4-5 days. If you don't do it within 3 hours, it must *COMPLETELY*
dry.
> think of is that the recoat window is a little longer then they claim.
> Especially where the paint is thick. Can I avoid this problem by waiting
> more than 24 hours?
Yes. The problem is the paint was only sort of really dried.
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I don't care for 'Rustoleum' because it's so heavy, and I've
experienced results similar to the one you mentioned. Krylon is great
stuff and is available in a wider selection of colors. However, I
prefer 'Plasti-kote' Ultra Enamel. It's a sort of epoxy paint and
behaves like Krylon, but once it's dried you can't hardly remove it
with anything but a hammer. I used to buy it at Checker Auto Parts but
Pep Boys sells it now.
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The paint I've had good luck with is the Ace brand, available at the
local Ace hardware store. It comes in a reasonable variety of colors
and is a LOT less expensive than Krylon, etc. I've had good luck with
2nd and 3rd coats on it, too.
-Kevin
Start with a fully cured primer coat. The first paint coat is very light
leaving a very blotchy appearance. After five minutes of drying (70F, light
wind) I apply a second, slightly heavier coat concentrating on the thin areas.
After five or ten minutes a third, more thorough coat is applied. Finally,
after another five to ten minutes I apply a heavy coat making sure all surfaces
are left glossy wet. Then the piece goes into the shed where hopefully
temperatures will exceed 80 or 90F over the next 24 hours. The piece can then
be handled gently but I think it takes several days or even a week or two for a
complete cure. This has produced the best finishes that I have achieved so far.
The early light coats seem to prevent the final coat from sagging or running.
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 00:14:22 GMT, Kevin Trojanowski <tr...@nospam.home.com>
wrote:
Oh common, Tai Fu comments on stuff he has never tried or used.
Go for it! 8-)
Neil Tarasoff
>I've never used Rustoleum on rockets, so I cannot comment on it in that
>application.
I've used it extensively and have had great results. But I do my recoats
within the 1 hour window. Otherwise I wait a week (weekend to weekend).
len.
1) The Rustoleum seems to be very prone to plugging the nozzle midway
through the can no matter how much shaking you do before and during. Kind of
a PITA to be halfway through a rocket and have to go out and get another can
of the same thing because the first one plugged up. (Obviously twice as
expensive that way, too).
2) It takes a LOT longer to dry. With Krylon I can handle the rocket in a
few hours, with Rustoleum the next day, minimum. Of course both should be
left for at least a week for good curing, but the Krylon's much faster to
keep working with, IMHO.
I've always had great luck with Krylon; Len's had good luck with Rustoleum.
'Spose it's all a matter of personal taste, but I definitely lean toward the
Krylon.
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Otherwise it is most wonderful paint. Very nice coating and hard to run
Nice finishes. ALthough it if you put it on too thick is may not run but it
will take anywhere from forever to never to full dry it always seems to be a
little soft for a LOOOOOONG time
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I just want to add that the Rustoleum Metalics paint seems to be quite
different from the rest of the Rustoleum branded paints. It drys quite
quickly, wet sands well, and can be overcoated as soon as it's dry.
Make sure to shake the can well or the flakes will come out all at once
and you flock your rocket...
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Maybe we should start a club...
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You left out Tai Fu. 8-)
Neil (I have NOT used Rustoleum) Tarasoff
BTW, it's C-O-S-T-A-N-Z-A. :-)>
Like that damn GEORGE, dammit!
I use Painter's Touch whenever I actually PAINT a rocket. (Mark Simpson told me
NEVER to paint a rocket before its first pass.) GOTSTA, GOTSTA, GOTSTA, do a
hair dryer or (low setting) heat gun between coats, though. Makes all the diff.
in the world. Killer coats...
METRA BOD
TRA #07107
NAR #74503
--the walrus
Gonna use that puppy to help kick off epoxy when I fiberglass tubes.
Used a hair dryer last time and it helped reduce the drying time a bit.
-Kevin
Here's a synopsis (assuming a ready-to-paint airframe):
-Light primer coat
-Heat and 'dry' paint throughout EVENLY (NOTE:paint is NOT dry when the
exposed part seems to be; the lower paint strata are still curing and
need a little bit of time to cure. The ROT I use is that when the
airframe seems to have returned to room temperature (by touch), I move
on.
-LIGHT!!! sanding with 320 or higher sandpaper. Although I don't
necessarily recommend it, I've laid three light coats of primer and two
coats of color on a rocket without sanding and it looked pretty
spankin'. In my guesstimate, sanding between coats may lend to more
longevity. But it can be done otherwise.
-Repeat as many (or few) primer coats with a subsequent 'curing' cycle
of even heat.
-After last coat of primer allow to sit at room temp. for several hours,
then lightly sand with fine sandpaper, wipe with a tack cloth (a clean
cotton T you ain't usin' no mo' follows the tack cloth nice, too) and
spray on a light color coat.
-Do alternating color coats/heat curing cycles until you like how it
looks or you're sick of doing it.
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Mark Simpson
NAR 71503 Level II
BTW, I just finished covering my in-process Bruiser EXP "Woody" in wood-grained
contact paper. It looks great.
Mark Simpson
NAR 71503 Level II
BTW, I just finished covering my in-process Bruiser EXP "Woody" in wood-grained
contact paper. It looks great.
Mark Simpson wrote in message <3A526E1C...@home.com>...
-Larry C.
>Since you follow Mark's painting system, when do you apply the kitty litter?<
Actually, that's one of my techniques, Steve. Interesting texture.
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How quickly the memory goes. I couldn't quite remember if it was you or Mark.
So you say Mark doesn't actually drop his paint jobs in a box of kitty litter
<(:-)
Mark Simpson
NAR 71503 Level II
In article <92u0m5$8a7$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>,
Mark Simpson
NAR 71503 Level II
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