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Paul Smith

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Steve Malin wrote in message ...
>I am putting the finishing touches on a PML Phantom, and my four year old
>daughter has reminded me that I promised to paint this, my third HPR, pink
>(she is the third child). I am not excited about a pink-esque rocket,but
am
>bound by my promise. Any recommendations or .gifs of a rocket with some
>pink in it that doesn't look, shall we say, 'gay'?


If I remember correctly, there's a woman in the Experimental Aircraft
Association who flies a (at least partially) pink P-40 Warhawk. It doesn't
look that bad, because (again, if I remember correctly) she has the standard
engine cowling "angry teeth" painted on as well. There's a picture of those
teeth at

http://www.aviation-history.com/curtiss/p40.htm

Perhaps you could add something like that?

Paul Smith

James L. Marino

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Steve,
Go ahead and paint that puppy pink. And put some flowers on it. Then
make a big decal and emblazon your daughter's name across it. Anyone that knocks
a rocket named after the builder's daughter and painted in the color scheme
chosen by that little girl should be placed atop it and launched. Your little
girl is only going to be that small for a very short while, so make the most of
it!

James

Steve Malin wrote:

> I am putting the finishing touches on a PML Phantom, and my four year old
> daughter has reminded me that I promised to paint this, my third HPR, pink
> (she is the third child). I am not excited about a pink-esque rocket,but am
> bound by my promise. Any recommendations or .gifs of a rocket with some
> pink in it that doesn't look, shall we say, 'gay'?
>

> Thanks,
>
> Steve Malin


bajaman

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Uh, not to bring down the wrath of the anti-automotive paint crowd, but
there are some terrific new color shifting paints out there that are
"pinkish" at times and shifting to pearly reds and blues others. Or you
could be obscene and call
it the "Pink Penetrator" and thumb your nose at everyone with some sort of
phallus theme...but that is not too family type oriented is it? By the way,
no offense intended here. I personally agree with the opinion of James
Marino.
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Bryan Chuck

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Hi Steve,

I think James Marino has got a great point. I would bet your daughter would
be thrilled that Daddy did a custom decor/paint scheme on said rocket.

FWIW, I saw in a RocketMan video a father/son team prepping what looked to
be a LOC Viper IV. It was painted bright pink and I thought it looked pretty
sharp.

Good flying to you!

Bry

Steve Malin

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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LSLubecki

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Use monokote.

Steve Lubecki

Rick James

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In article <7BhF3.21355$N77.1...@typ11.nn.bcandid.com>,

"bajaman" <wol...@hit.net> wrote:
> thumb your nose at everyone with some sort of
> phallus theme...but that is not too family type oriented is it? By
the way,
> no offense intended here.

WARNING: Be very careful here. A friend of mine painted a rocket pink,
and it really did look quite obscene. He never flew it again. I don't
think he realized what it looked like until everyone at the launch site
pointed it out for him.

However...

>I personally agree with the opinion of James
> Marino.

And so do I. I've compromised a lot of designs for my children and
never regretted it.

But, may I suggest a two color scheme? Such as Pink and Black? or Pink
and Turquoise? (go for the Miami Vice look) Is the Pink Panther still
popular? Or maybe add flames of a contrasting color.

Have fun with it!
--
Rick James
NAR#73338


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MarkL99999

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>
> Steve,
> Go ahead and paint that puppy pink. And put some flowers on it.
>Then
>make a big decal and emblazon your daughter's name across it. Anyone that
>knocks
>a rocket named after the builder's daughter and painted in the color scheme
>chosen by that little girl should be placed atop it and launched. Your little
>girl is only going to be that small for a very short while, so make the most
>of
>it!

I agree with this 110%. The look on her face when this rocket flies will dwarf
any idiotic comments you may get.

Mel Sharpe

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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I am not excited about a pink-esque rocket,but am
>bound by my promise. Any recommendations or .gifs of a rocket with some
>pink in it that doesn't look, shall we say, 'gay'?


I certainly agree with all of the "paint it pink anyway" responses.
Its the child that matters.

I have one pink rocket finished by using a base coat of silver metallic
based paint (two heavy coats)
overpainted (while the first coats are still very wet) with fluorescent pink
spary.
The resulting solvent separation gives a good swirl pattern.
Spay in well ventilated conditions and allow at least a week for full
drying.
The effect is so good that I have also painted my scratch built Level 2 in
the same system,
overlapping from blue - green - yellow - orange - red.

Apart from pleasing your daughter you also get to enjoy the expressions on
the faces of those
few rocketeers who are so lacking in self-confidence that they are concerned
about whether something looks gay.

Good luck
Regards Mel S. a UK rocketeer

James Wentworth

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Steve Malin (ma...@verit.com) wrote:
: I am putting the finishing touches on a PML Phantom, and my four year old

: daughter has reminded me that I promised to paint this, my third HPR, pink
: (she is the third child). I am not excited about a pink-esque rocket,but am

: bound by my promise. Any recommendations or .gifs of a rocket with some
: pink in it that doesn't look, shall we say, 'gay'?

No, that would be lavender. With a rainbow flag on each side. Come to
think of it, the Estes Gnome has plastic parts that aren't too far from
being purple. :-)

Jason
--
James J. Wentworth
d005...@dc.seflin.org


Carl/Lisa Van Camp

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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James L. Marino wrote:

> Go ahead and paint that puppy pink. And put some flowers on it. Then
> make a big decal and emblazon your daughter's name across it. Anyone that knocks
> a rocket named after the builder's daughter and painted in the color scheme
> chosen by that little girl should be placed atop it and launched. Your little
> girl is only going to be that small for a very short while, so make the most of
> it!

Excellent advice. What could be more important than being a hero in
your daughters' eyes?

Best,
Carl Van Camp

Peter Clay

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Steve Malin (ma...@verit.com) wrote:
: I am putting the finishing touches on a PML Phantom, and my four year old
: daughter has reminded me that I promised to paint this, my third HPR, pink
: (she is the third child). I am not excited about a pink-esque rocket,but am
: bound by my promise. Any recommendations or .gifs of a rocket with some
: pink in it that doesn't look, shall we say, 'gay'?

>James L. Marino wrote:>


>>Go ahead and paint that puppy pink. And put some flowers on it. Then make a
big decal and emblazon your daughter's name across it. Anyone that knocks a
rocket named after the builder's daughter and painted in the color scheme
chosen by that little girl should be placed atop it and launched. Your little
girl is only going to be that small for a very short while, so make the most of
it!>>

//IMHO, this ought to be in the FAQ. People, especially little girls, are more
important than rockets. Pink is an excellent high-visibility color, anyway.

My daughter (6) designed a rocket and I built it for her. It's a full-length
BT-50 model, bright pink with sky-blue fins, and on the side in her
magic-marker handwriting it says "Amanba's Pnic Prnciss." When she grows up it
will be worth a fortune to her.


Peter W. Clay NAR 18619 SR L1
All control is in the hands of those who know. Will they help us grow...?

Carl/Lisa Van Camp

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Peter Clay wrote:

> My daughter (6) designed a rocket and I built it for her. It's a full-length
> BT-50 model, bright pink with sky-blue fins, and on the side in her
> magic-marker handwriting it says "Amanba's Pnic Prnciss." When she grows up it
> will be worth a fortune to her.

Excellent! Thanks for sharing that.

Best,
Carl Van Camp

Mordecai Schmeeglefarb

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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I paint all my big rockets fluoro pink - it's the most visible color for my
recovery conditions. With contrasting fluoro green fins or roll bars.

Gotta second the monocote suggestion - It gives a first rate finish, in
about a 10th of the time as paint, with no fumes or messy cleanup.

Correct response to the query:
"A Pink rocket! - are you gay?
is
"Wishful thinking, Pal..."

Mordecai

Andrew Waddell

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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I too have considered painting a rocket pink, but I was thinking Hot Pink or
Fluorescent Pink, something like that. I think a pink rocket would be cool
with the right pink (and would probably be a real boon to recovery with the
color "shouting" at you on the ground).

--
Andrew D. Waddell
PML Online Support Rep
TRA 2043 L2/NAR 52875 L2
Email: ADWa...@home.com
PML: www.publicmissiles.com

Steve Malin <ma...@verit.com> wrote in message
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> I am putting the finishing touches on a PML Phantom, and my four year old
> daughter has reminded me that I promised to paint this, my third HPR, pink
> (she is the third child). I am not excited about a pink-esque rocket,but
am
> bound by my promise. Any recommendations or .gifs of a rocket with some
> pink in it that doesn't look, shall we say, 'gay'?
>

> Thanks,
>
> Steve Malin
>
>

Tai Fu

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Steve Malin wrote:
>
> I am putting the finishing touches on a PML Phantom, and my four year old
> daughter has reminded me that I promised to paint this, my third HPR, pink
> (she is the third child). I am not excited about a pink-esque rocket,but am
> bound by my promise. Any recommendations or .gifs of a rocket with some
> pink in it that doesn't look, shall we say, 'gay'?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Malin

If you got a dual action (must be that) airbrush, you can simply spray
your daughter's name on the rocket. Or if you like, paint the rocket
pink, put on some flower pattern with some red. Then use a testor's
brush on enamel (or acrylic) and write your daughter's name on it with
some violet. Be creative, and plan ahead before you actually start
painting! If you want to make decals, however you need a good color
laser printer that prints very good, because inkjets aren't waterproof.
Most color lasers are very expensive (2000 dollars and above!!!). You
can get RocketVision to make decals for you (somewhat pricy....) or you
can get dual action airbrush + compressor (300 dollars +) or just use
paintbrush and write your daughter's name on it (cheap, less than 10)
but it won't look as good as airbrushed or decals. I really like it when
decals are painted on because it never comes off and looks alot better.
Oh yeah, You can make stencils, mask the rest, and then spray paint it
on! But it will take time...

Mark Simpson

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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LSLubecki wrote:
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> Use monokote.
>
> Steve Lubecki

Why did I know that you were going to say that, Steve. <bg>

Mark Simpson
NAR 71503 Level II


Mark Simpson

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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James L. Marino wrote:
>
> Steve,

> Go ahead and paint that puppy pink. And put some flowers on it. Then
> make a big decal and emblazon your daughter's name across it. Anyone that knocks
> a rocket named after the builder's daughter and painted in the color scheme
> chosen by that little girl should be placed atop it and launched. Your little
> girl is only going to be that small for a very short while, so make the most of
> it!

Bravo! Spoken like a GOOD parent......My hat's off to you, sir.

James L. Marino

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Mordecai Schmeeglefarb wrote:

>>>snip<<<

> Correct response to the query:
> "A Pink rocket! - are you gay?
> is
> "Wishful thinking, Pal..."
>
> Mordecai

An excellent response, sir!!!! Can you imagine the look on the guy's
face?!?!

James

Dean Roth

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No wonder certain government agencies want to increase regulation
of rocketry. There seem to be far too many immature yet legal
adults in the hobby filled with fear of the mighty and vengeful
color "pink".

--
dean_roth at yahoo dot com
NOTE: Modify the return address to reply via email.


Dave Pacheco

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Sep 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/21/99
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On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:39:18 GMT, "Steve Malin" <ma...@verit.com>
wrote:

>I am putting the finishing touches on a PML Phantom, and my four year old
>daughter has reminded me that I promised to paint this, my third HPR, pink
>(she is the third child). I am not excited about a pink-esque rocket,but am
>bound by my promise. Any recommendations or .gifs of a rocket with some
>pink in it that doesn't look, shall we say, 'gay'?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve Malin
>
>

The Estes Dagger that I have is partly pink (pinkish body, silver
payload bay, black fins and nc). It looks pretty good (I may be biased
by the fact that it flies great even on a B IMO!)

Kimberly Harms

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I have wondered deeply about this pink and blue thing. Why does it
*still* exist? Haven't we gotten past this sort of dumb gender
stereotyping?

So I think why is it this way? Go to the local Toys-R-Us and go down
the Barbie isle. It practically glows pink. Go down the other isles
and there are a mixed bag of muted colors. Blues, Greens, etc.

So now I think, are the toy companies just following what the public
wants and if they packaged in, lets say green or red, would no one
buy their stuff? But wait .... toy companies are very very good at
creating public demand. Couldn't they start to do green stuff and
help get us out of this pink and blue worldview?

But then I saw just a few weeks ago that one of the bigger toy
companies (don't remember which one) has come out with a computer for
kids. Two versions: The Barbie version and the Hot-Wheels version.

So now I figure it out!

The toy companies want all this pink vs. blue stuff so they can sell
TWO of everything! They are despicable but not dumb!

And now I'm starting to remember things like parents needing to buy
both white and black ice skates, .....

Kimberly Harms
TRA 6206 L3

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Kevin Trojanowski

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Sep 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/21/99
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"James L. Marino" wrote:
>
> Steve,
> Go ahead and paint that puppy pink. And put some flowers on it. Then
> make a big decal and emblazon your daughter's name across it. Anyone that knocks
> a rocket named after the builder's daughter and painted in the color scheme
> chosen by that little girl should be placed atop it and launched. Your little
> girl is only going to be that small for a very short while, so make the most of
> it!

I couldn't agree more! Anything that gives you a chance to be involved
with your kids is worth doing!

-Kevin

rd...@my-deja.com

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Well my "Pink Bertha" seems to fly really well.
I painted it pink just to spite people.
Besides painting it black would have made it a banana.
Then the people would really stare.

RDH8

James Wentworth

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Sep 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/21/99
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James L. Marino (jmar...@NOSPAMhotmail.com) wrote:

: > Correct response to the query:


: > "A Pink rocket! - are you gay?
: > is
: > "Wishful thinking, Pal..."

Even better: "Swishful thinking, my dear friend."

Lewis Garrow

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and besides, flying a Pink rocket means you are totally secure in your
masculinity!

MarkL99999 wrote:

> >
> > Steve,
> > Go ahead and paint that puppy pink. And put some flowers on it.
> >Then
> >make a big decal and emblazon your daughter's name across it. Anyone that
> >knocks
> >a rocket named after the builder's daughter and painted in the color scheme
> >chosen by that little girl should be placed atop it and launched. Your little
> >girl is only going to be that small for a very short while, so make the most
> >of
> >it!
>

Lewis Garrow

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Sep 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/21/99
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tell it to Jerry Falwell and the purple teletubby!

Paul Smith

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Lewis Garrow wrote in message <37E7D21D...@hbo.com>...

>tell it to Jerry Falwell and the purple teletubby!


Wouldn't "purple teletubby" be a pretty good description of Falwell
himself, when he's blustering about some piece of nonsense?

Paul Smith

Mike Pearson <see .sig>

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Andrew Waddell <ADWa...@home.com> wrote:

> I too have considered painting a rocket pink, but I was thinking Hot Pink or
> Fluorescent Pink, something like that. I think a pink rocket would be cool
> with the right pink (and would probably be a real boon to recovery with the
> color "shouting" at you on the ground).

I modified an Omloid to 24mm, put on some balsa fins, and a boattail.
Painted the thing fluorescent pink. Looks great (yeah, the pink does
clash a bit with the orange egg capsule and launch lug!), and it's real
easy to spot whether it's flying or not. Don't try to videotape, it,
though, since it'll blow out the video big time, and you just wind up
with a big pink blob on the tape where the rocket was.

Oh, yeah...since it was my big, pink egg-bearer I clipped up the decals
and rearranged them a little. It now flies as the "O Midol". Folks in
the Seattle area have seen it fly from time to time <g>.

--
Mike
NAR #70953 - Sr/Insured/Level-1 ~ SeaNAR - The Seattle NAR Section #568
NO Junk Email, please! Real email to: amphoto [at] blarg [dot] net.
<WARNING: Do not look into laser beam with remaining eye!>

Rick James

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In article <01bf03c5$9d19d620$f861490c@xpsh233>,

"Kimberly Harms" <KHa...@AdvancedQuonsetTech.com> wrote:
> I have wondered deeply about this pink and blue thing. Why does it
> *still* exist? Haven't we gotten past this sort of dumb gender
> stereotyping?
>
I just finished building a rocket for my son (11 years old (he doesn't
care to build them, but he likes to fly them)) and I put some 'cool'
cooling fins between the 'flying' fins. Anyway I was thinking of
something like red between the radiating fins and the rest of the
rocket black. I asked him what colors he would like. He said, "Hot
pink and blue." Go figure.
But after I thought about, I thought this might look good. I've
already primed it gray. I'll shoot it with the blue, mask it, shoot it
with white primer, then shoot it with the hot pink. It's going to look
good.

But on the gender stereo-typing, with our daughter, we tried to provide
her with every non-gender-based opportunity. She decided early which
colors were boy colors and which were girl colors. So all her Hot
Wheels were girl colors. She's 19 now and studying nursing in
college. She's thinking of joining the Air Force, partly because she
likes the uniform and she thinks she looks good in BDU's. Go figure.

--
Rick James
NAR#73338

Lewis Garrow

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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I just built a Callisto (new qt one) and painted it fluorescent pink......it
was so ugly I overpainted it with red enamel...no insecurities about the pink
just too damn ugly !

Andrew Waddell wrote:

> I too have considered painting a rocket pink, but I was thinking Hot Pink or
> Fluorescent Pink, something like that. I think a pink rocket would be cool
> with the right pink (and would probably be a real boon to recovery with the
> color "shouting" at you on the ground).
>

> --


DGRTEK

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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About 15 years ago, I was traveling in Europe... I spoke to a man from
Amsterdam... it was pre- wall take down... and we spoke about Berlin. I asked
what he thought should be done... he replied," I think they should paint it
pink". His reply has always stuck with me, and I've always looked at pink a
little differently since then. Go paint your daughters rocket as Pink as you
can, and just enjoy watching her, enjoy watching her PINK rocket soar.
Douglas

"When we set out on a journey, we never know where we will end up. Looking
back however, the path is always crystal clear."

Kristian Sorensen

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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Aw, that is so cute!

I can't wait to have kids now! LOL
It must be wonderful having a family hobby like that. It meant so much more
to me having my dad there at the launches with me when I was younger. He
always let me know how impressed and proud he was with my work and my
knowledge of rocketry.

How old are your kids? Have they built rockets of their own yet?

All the best,
Kristian Sorensen

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> Thank everyone for all your help on this question. After picking the
paint
> today at Home Depot (in the flourescent section), the following is my
> daughter's post to r.m.r. (typed by me):
> 'I have a pink and turquoise rocket and thank you for all your
help.
> We've been doing a lot of other rockets, too.'
> Steve Malin
> NAR 75759
> Sr. Level 1


Steve Malin

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Steve Malin

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<J. Doe>

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A few months ago, I was trying to come up with some project I could work on with
my 6 1/2 year old daughter which would interest her and me both. Passing a toy
store, they had a Darth Vader's Tie Fighter starter set on clearance for $10.00,
and suddenly I'm back in rockets for the first time since high school. Anyway,
we just finished constructing an old Transtar Carrier, but instead of giving it
the stock paint job, I just sprayed it white, let it dry, and gave it to my
daughter to do with as she pleased (I get one fin...). When she's done, I'll
cover it in clearcoat. So far, she's got stars, rainbows, diamonds, flowers,
and a triangular sun. "Daddy, why do we always have to make the sun round?" she
asked me last night. I explained that the sun IS round, but she seemed
determined.....

I would suggest that those of you with younger children consider letting them do
the painting. I know I'll treasure this rocket forever. Or at least until it
ends up floating into oblivion....

Dan Priven
San Francisco, California
(If there are any SF fire enforcers reading, I'll launch in another county....)


Mark S. Morley

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I have a birthday party planned with 12 pre-built gnats from rogue.
They will all be painted with white primer and then decorated by the
kids. I'll future-clear-coat them while we eat cake and ice cream.
Then out to fly them. (I'll have several spares JIC.)
]\/[ark

Gordon S. Hlavenka

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"Mark S. Morley" wrote:
> I have a birthday party planned with 12 pre-built gnats from rogue.
> They will all be painted with white primer and then decorated by the
> kids. I'll future-clear-coat them while we eat cake and ice cream.
> Then out to fly them. (I'll have several spares JIC.)

Just so you know -- those nifty washable markers aren't worth squat for
rocket marking; they bead up and never dry. Whatever you're going to
have the kids use, test it for compatibility with the base coat _and_
the clear coat well in advance of the party...

--
Gordon S. Hlavenka www.crashelex.com nos...@crashelex.com
Grammar and spelling flames welcome.
Yes, that's really my email address. Don't change it.

Stephen DeArman

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Sep 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/24/99
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Steve Malin wrote:

snip

Well...my daughter and I also had the discussion about painting her
first rocket pink. Try as I might to change her mind, she wouldn't and
she finally won. It was a pink Reliant appropriately named "Lady Will
Power" after her favorite song from old dad's 60's collection.

Her next one was a purple scratch built about the same size as a
Reliant. After a very high flight on an A8-5, she insisted we use a C.
I'm not sure but I think we achieved orbit...but I can't prove it. It
went out of sight in a clear sky and out of 8 people, no one saw any
ejection or the rocket ever again.

Several years later, at the age of 14, she is about ready to start her
first Saturn V and I'm still trying to tactfully bring up the question
of color. I know what it should be...and you know what it should be but
I'm afraid she'll insist on pink with purple. I think I'm going to tell
her it's against the law to deviate from the NASA paint scheme. She has
already named it Scully.

Trust No One
Randy

mal...@kec.com

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> 'I have a pink and turquoise rocket and thank you for all
your help.
> We've been doing a lot of other rockets, too.'
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Steve,

Tell her that her niece is now getting into rockets (we got our FIRST
kit last weekend, an Estes Alpha III, and almost wore it out). C built
a mosquito last night and I've been working on an AMRAAM. She wants to
paint it red, but maybe she'll be inspired to use pink :-). With her
birthday and Christmas coming before too long I now have gift ideas.

BTW, I hope to go our first medium- and high-power launch next weekend;
I'll let you know how it goes.

C-ya!
Art


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