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Beav

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Nov 29, 2009, 10:01:59 AM11/29/09
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A pal came to our garage this week, armed with a fucking electric heli.
ready built and ready to fly. E-Flite MSR it is and I fly it I did. Much to
his amazement and delight.

Fucking great fun flying it through a car window (open) and out the other
side, but (and it's a big but) I fear it would soon get old as it doesn't
have much in the way of aerobatic capabilities..

So.... which of the "indoor" leccies are good for 3D. At least I don't have
to learn how to fly upside down or learn how to do a backwards rolling
circle with the odd piro thrown in, but I want to do it in the warm and in
the dry and in the inside for a change.

What do I look for?

And if your comments are going to centre around Beav going electric, you can
fuck right off before you start :-)

I'm sat here waiting....


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19


RogerN

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Nov 29, 2009, 11:52:29 AM11/29/09
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"Beav" <beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote in message
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This is about the only "nano" sized heli that I've seen with collective
pitch. There may be others, haven't searched lately.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXWPW8&P=0

They have came a long way since the time of the "2 minute flights or up to 5
minutes if you run a cable to a power supply" days!

I bought one of those Blade 400 a couple of years ago and it has incredible
power to weight ratio.

RogerN


Robert Roland

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Nov 29, 2009, 1:39:01 PM11/29/09
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:01:59 -0000, "Beav"
<beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:

>which of the "indoor" leccies are good for 3D.

Align's T-rex 250 performs quite well and seems to be of decent
quality. Probably a bit too large for living room flying, but if you
have access to a gymnasium or similar, you'll have plenty of space.
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RoRo

Beav

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Nov 29, 2009, 3:12:39 PM11/29/09
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"RogerN" <re...@midwest.net> wrote in message
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That one (Novus) looks like it could be the one. What a bitch though that
the Novus uses "normal" servo's where the E-Flite uses proper linear
servo's, something I've said was necessary for years.

Price is good, but I see that while the FP version comes with a CNC machined
rotor head, the CP has a plastic head. Granted there's an upgrade path, but
if there is, there's a need to have it and that pisses me off. No mention of
how many batteries come with the heli either or prices for additional packs.
The E-Flite batt can be had for pennies and the charger will charge 4 packs
at one time.

I shall explore this Novus some more I do believe.

Cheers Roger

Beav

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Nov 29, 2009, 3:14:23 PM11/29/09
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"Robert Roland" <fa...@ddress.no> wrote in message
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I've got a brand new (never flown) T-rex 450 sat in my workshop with all the
upgrades available, plus two battery packs, the necessary charger and
balancer. All doing nothing coz I can't be arsed finding somewhere to fly. I
need TINY :-)

Robert Roland

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Nov 30, 2009, 6:58:39 AM11/30/09
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:14:23 -0000, "Beav"
<beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:

>I've got a brand new (never flown) T-rex 450 sat in my workshop with all the
>upgrades available, plus two battery packs, the necessary charger and
>balancer. All doing nothing coz I can't be arsed finding somewhere to fly.

I also have a 450. I can't imagine a heli that is easier to find a
spot for. It can handle a decent breeze, and a big lawn works as a
flying field in a pinch.

>I
>need TINY :-)

OK, so we're talking living room size? I have also been looking for
something to replace the PicooZ, except with collective and cyclic
control. I read about the Novus a few days ago, so I hit Google to see
what other people have to say about it. Some people say that it is a
rebadge of an older Walkera model, and that Walkera's current model is
a better machine. I haven't looked at any details yet.
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RoRo

Beav

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Nov 30, 2009, 11:05:33 AM11/30/09
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"Robert Roland" <fa...@ddress.no> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:14:23 -0000, "Beav"
> <beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>>I've got a brand new (never flown) T-rex 450 sat in my workshop with all
>>the
>>upgrades available, plus two battery packs, the necessary charger and
>>balancer. All doing nothing coz I can't be arsed finding somewhere to fly.
>
> I also have a 450. I can't imagine a heli that is easier to find a
> spot for. It can handle a decent breeze, and a big lawn works as a
> flying field in a pinch.
>
>>I
>>need TINY :-)
>
> OK, so we're talking living room size?

Indeed. But I want it capable of inverted flight at least.

>I have also been looking for
> something to replace the PicooZ, except with collective and cyclic
> control. I read about the Novus a few days ago, so I hit Google to see
> what other people have to say about it. Some people say that it is a
> rebadge of an older Walkera model, and that Walkera's current model is
> a better machine. I haven't looked at any details yet.

I'll check out the Walkera site myself.

Chris Dugan

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Nov 30, 2009, 2:07:15 PM11/30/09
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I've got a Piccolo Pro that I don't use any more with standard gear (i.e.
not Li-Po compatible) in it at the moment.

You can have that if you want.

E-mail me for more details:

chris DOT dugan AT ntlworld DOT com

Replace caps with punctuation

--
Chris

Beav

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Nov 30, 2009, 6:40:12 PM11/30/09
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"Chris Dugan" <chrisd...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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That's very decent of you sir.


>
> E-mail me for more details:

E-mailed.

The Central Scrutinizer

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Dec 4, 2009, 1:44:00 AM12/4/09
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Um whoops... The Eflite MSR is not collective pitch. It is fixed pitch.

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Beav

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Dec 5, 2009, 4:03:45 PM12/5/09
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"The Central Scrutinizer" <gci...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Um whoops... The Eflite MSR is not collective pitch. It is fixed pitch.

I know :-)

Beav

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Dec 5, 2009, 4:04:14 PM12/5/09
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"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
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> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:14:23 -0000, "Beav"
> <beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
> . I
>>need TINY :-)
>
> Look down. :)

Not THAT fucking tiny.

Beav

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Dec 5, 2009, 4:08:15 PM12/5/09
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"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
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> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:01:59 -0000, "Beav"
> <beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>>A pal came to our garage this week, armed with a fucking electric heli.
>>ready built and ready to fly. E-Flite MSR it is and I fly it I did. Much
>>to
>>his amazement and delight.
>>
>>Fucking great fun flying it through a car window (open) and out the other
>>side, but (and it's a big but) I fear it would soon get old as it doesn't
>>have much in the way of aerobatic capabilities..
>
> There are some upgrades available from MicroHeli and some other guy
> who's name starts with a "C" but I can't recall it at the moment.

>
>>So.... which of the "indoor" leccies are good for 3D. At least I don't
>>have
>>to learn how to fly upside down or learn how to do a backwards rolling
>>circle with the odd piro thrown in, but I want to do it in the warm and in
>>the dry and in the inside for a change.
>>
>>What do I look for?
>
> I'd suggest a small electric helicopter. :)

I'd thought about that, but then I thought "Electric?.... ME?... in 2009?"
>
> The Heli-Max Novus is evidently decent. Gaui's got a 100 sized micro.
> Walkera has a 4#3 CP and I recall seeing something called the Venom 3D
> that was a dinkl CP heli.. I don't have any experience with any of
> them so can't comment on the good, bad or ugly with anything but what
> I've read or seen on the forums.

I fucking hate forums.


>
>>And if your comments are going to centre around Beav going electric, you
>>can
>>fuck right off before you start :-)
>

> [fucking right off] Beav? Electric?? I thought the world wasn't
> scheduled to end until 2012!!!

I'm booked on one of the Arks and I can't get outside to fly.


>
>>I'm sat here waiting....
>

> I hope your ass goes to sleep...

I've got a very comfortable arse cozy :-)

ivor titekunt

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Dec 12, 2009, 12:25:13 PM12/12/09
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Try this fucker

http://www.chinesejade.com/walkera4G6_Heli.htm

Described in two words.

Fuckin' Brill.

Beav

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Dec 14, 2009, 8:26:40 AM12/14/09
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"ivor titekunt" <ivorti...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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Try this fucker

I'll fucking consider it, that's for sure.

http://www.chinesejade.com/walkera4G6_Heli.htm

Described in two words.

Fuckin' Brill.

Ahhh, my kind of speak :-)

I thang ewe.

Robert Roland

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Dec 14, 2009, 9:11:20 AM12/14/09
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:05:33 -0000, "Beav"
<beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:

>>I have also been looking for
>> something to replace the PicooZ, except with collective and cyclic
>> control. I read about the Novus a few days ago, so I hit Google to see
>> what other people have to say about it. Some people say that it is a
>> rebadge of an older Walkera model, and that Walkera's current model is
>> a better machine. I haven't looked at any details yet.
>
>I'll check out the Walkera site myself.

I have looked into it bit more now. To me, there are two promising
candidates: The 4G3 and the 4G6. They have exactly the same rotor
diameter, but the 4G6 weighs almost 20g more. In return, it has a
shaft driven tail with proper pitch control, where the 4G3 has a motor
driven fixed-pitch tail rotor. 20g may not sound like much, but The
4G3 weighs only 68.4g, which means the 4G6 is almost 30% heavier.

Both models are available with brushless motor.

I was just about to order the '3 when Ivor pointed out the '6 (which I
thought was bigger). Now, I don't know what to do...
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RoRo

Frenchie

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Dec 15, 2009, 6:56:08 PM12/15/09
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On Dec 14, 2:11 pm, Robert Roland <f...@ddress.no> wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:05:33 -0000, "Beav"
>

Loads of posts here about the 4g6( and every other heli), the 6 is
definitely (imho) the better heli.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1113341

Beav

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Dec 17, 2009, 3:51:32 PM12/17/09
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"Frenchie" <frenc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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So much so that two will be on order this very week. I need to find a UK
supplier as I'm not of a mind to stump up import duty or VAT in order to
"save" by getting something direct from the People's Republic.

David Williams

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Dec 18, 2009, 6:21:38 AM12/18/09
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> Loads of posts here about the 4g6( and every other heli), the 6 is
> definitely (imho) the better heli.
>
> So much so that two will be on order this very week. I need to find a UK
> supplier as I'm not of a mind to stump up import duty or VAT in order to
> "save" by getting something direct from the People's Republic.
>
>
> --
> Beav
>
> VN 750
> Zed 1000
> OMF# 19
>
Something else to consider Beav - UK supplier and a few different models to
choose from.....

http://www.buzzflyer.co.uk/Sub-Micro-RC-Helicopters/c-1-97/

Cheers,

David


Beav

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Dec 18, 2009, 11:10:37 AM12/18/09
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"David Williams" <news...@remove-me.dandcwilliams.com> wrote in message
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Not utterly convinced Dave. It looks a little "less" than the 4g6 but costs
more. I'll investigate some more on these two, but I'm leaning heavily
towards the Walkera.

Robert Roland

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Dec 18, 2009, 3:13:11 PM12/18/09
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:10:37 -0000, "Beav"
<beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:

>It looks a little "less" than the 4g6 but costs
>more.

Comparing the 3DS with the 4G6, I'd say they are perfectly identical.
--
RoRo

Beav

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Dec 19, 2009, 11:28:16 AM12/19/09
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"Robert Roland" <fa...@ddress.no> wrote in message
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Apart from a pretty substantial price advantage in favour of the Walkera.
And the Walkera looks far better finished too.

Buzz deluxe is 309 quid, 4g6 Premium 299 dollars. That's a fucking big
difference.

Boo

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Jan 2, 2010, 6:27:35 AM1/2/10
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>> Comparing the 3DS with the 4G6, I'd say they are perfectly identical.
>
> Apart from a pretty substantial price advantage in favour of the Walkera.
> And the Walkera looks far better finished too.

Orright, Beav ? Did you get one in the end ? What's it like ? Canirvago ?

Happy New Year to all,

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Boo

Beav

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Jan 2, 2010, 7:14:52 AM1/2/10
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"Boo" <reply_to_group_not_me@spam_me_no_spam.net> wrote in message
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>>> Comparing the 3DS with the 4G6, I'd say they are perfectly identical.
>>
>> Apart from a pretty substantial price advantage in favour of the Walkera.
>> And the Walkera looks far better finished too.
>
> Orright, Beav ?

Aye! :-)

>Did you get one in the end ? What's it like ? Canirvago ?

Walkera on order, so nothing to report just yet. Blade MSR bought and now
terrorising my dogs. And I got a Blade for the boy-chic too, so we can
engage in some aerial combat. The grandaughter is happy with a Picoo type
Hughes 300 (she's 5 years old) and she's terrorising the cats at her
house:-)


>
> Happy New Year to all,

And the same to thee.

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