hawker harrier,Sr71,A-6 Intruder
me...@hotmail.com
Hello all you R/C buffs. ok Im a scratchbuilder at heart, and I have
learned a lot on the net so thanks Here is a few questions for ya. Any
info on R/C harriers? Any info on R/C SR-71's? Any info on R/C A-6
Intruders? Any info on very small R/C planes (ducted or pusher,prop
models) Im working on a 1/72 scale carrier and have decided to build a
VERY LARGE 1/24 or 1/18 carrier also, so I want small aircraft to launch
from the deck. Any harrasment of this idea is welcomed. Can you guys
help? mike "rcViper"
http://www.geocities.com/timessquare/battlefield/2787 this is my site,
its still under construction but i think youll enjoy whats there so far.
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sro...@ibm.net
WooW! a 1000ft carrier would be 40ft at 1:25 and about 4ft wide,
a 1:18 1000ft carrier would be 55.5ft and 5.5ft wide. How are you going to
get this thing to the lake, with a tractor trailer?, and how are you going
to prevent it from splitting in half when you lift it
off the trailer?
Good Luck.
David Fielding
I remember reading a few years ago about a fellow named Eric Dainty, who
had been working on a ducted-fan Harrier, with working vectored thrust and
bleed air. The report at the time said he was close to being able to hover,
with very short takeoffs and landings possible. I recall a photo of the
unpainted, blue-foam prototype. Anyone know more to the story?
Dennis Crooks gave a demonstration of a big ducted-fan SR-71 at Top Gun for
a while; there is a kit available, from Yellow Aircraft. No carrier-landing
plans for this one, eh Mike...?
- David Fielding
Corey Vodvarka
Don't waste your time bonehead. I can just see a couple dorks cruisin
around some pond on a big chunk of wood trying to land their model plane
on it without giving themselves a buzzcut. What a waste of time and $$$!
Barton Spencer Brown
Aside form the immature and totally unnecessary rudeness of your
response, I didn't see anything in their post about actually being *ON*
the "big chunk of wood" while launching and landing. And it's THEIR
money and THEIR time, bonehead.
Bart Brown
Don Ferrette
Obviously,judging by the fact that "vodka's" post was at 2:00 am he was
probably trashed on vodka(it is his E-mail call) so give it the attention it
deserves & too those guys who were asking about help w/ it -MORE POWER TO
YA!! Don't ever say it can't be done!!
Don
KILLER
What is with your attitude? If someone wants to push the envolope, what is
your right to slam them for it. I personally have SEEN someone run aircraft
of a moving boat, but the SCALE's of the boat and plane were not even close.
If this guy can do it, MORE POWER TO HIM! We wouldn't have these computers
if people like Gate's and INTEL didn't push the envelope.
Corey Vodvarka wrote in message <349234...@expert.cc.purdue.edu>...
Jeff Abrams
>We wouldn't have these computers
>if people like Gate's and INTEL didn't push the envelope.
>
reverse-engineer and acquire in a hostile manner, the envelope.
-Jeff
Jim Surra
>
> Obviously,judging by the fact that "vodka's" post was at 2:00 am he was
> probably trashed on vodka(it is his E-mail call) so give it the attention it
> deserves & too those guys who were asking about help w/ it -MORE POWER TO
> YA!! Don't ever say it can't be done!!
>
> Don
>
Yeah, like all those silly guys years ago that thought you could use
boats to land and take off from. I'll bet they all got bad posts too!
No matter what it is, it can be done. Maybe not this year, or this
decade, but eventually it can happen. If anybody had told me in 1968
that we would be able to do this newsposts thing, I'd have had my
doubts. But since they landed a man on the moon that year, I'd have
held my tongue. I've also seen planes fly that I would've bet money
that they wouldn't. And they flew well. And I've seen things done with
R/C planes that I wouldn't think possible. Usually the result of an
idea, and then a lot of practice and adaptations.
JIM
vpc/jlc
Jim Surra wrote:
> I'll bet they all got bad posts too!
> No matter what it is, it can be done. Maybe not this year, or this
> decade, but eventually it can happen. If anybody had told me in 1968
> that we would be able to do this newsposts thing, I'd have had my
> doubts. But since they landed a man on the moon that year,
Hey Jim, ain't you heard that moon thing was a farce. I have it on good
information that it was played out on a stage somewhere out west (grin).
Vince
AMA 266036
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Beavis
In article <349234...@expert.cc.purdue.edu>, Corey Vodvarka
<corv...@expert.cc.purdue.edu> writes
>Don't waste your time bonehead. I can just see a couple dorks cruisin
>around some pond on a big chunk of wood trying to land their model plane
>on it without giving themselves a buzzcut. What a waste of time and $$$!
Brilliant answer there Vodvarka.
I suggest you change your E-mail name and address (not to mention your
attitude) before you post a question when YOU want any help. I can just
imagine the kind of answers you'll get.
More please.
--
Beavis
Jim Spiers
vpc/jlc wrote:
>
> Jim Surra wrote:
> > I'll bet they all got bad posts too!
> > No matter what it is, it can be done. Maybe not this year, or this
> > decade, but eventually it can happen. If anybody had told me in 1968
> > that we would be able to do this newsposts thing, I'd have had my
> > doubts. But since they landed a man on the moon that year,
> > JIM
>
> Hey Jim, ain't you heard that moon thing was a farce. I have it on good
> information that it was played out on a stage somewhere out west (grin).
>
> Vince
> AMA 266036
Vince is right. Check out the Bond flick "Diamonds Are Forever" and you
can see the stage they used!
(Yes, dear, most of them WILL get the joke. 8^) )
Jim Spiers
DaRCKiller
Guy's Im sorry I brought up the Computer thing, please lets stay on topic..
I was just using it as an example of someone trying to adapt things to a new
arena.......
BTW-Don't forget about the Workbench 1.3 & 2.0 OS.. Amiga had a great thing
going if they coulda stayed open...
Larry
Guy or Lesley Hilliard wrote in message
<34933fb5...@usenet.idirect.com>...
>Ya, but how do you get Digital Research (CPM, MPM, and CCPM, the last
>two being true multitasking/ concurent operating systems that were
>running back in the late 70's and early 80's) back into the game! It
>wasn't until OS2 WARP(ed) and "Chicago" (Win 95, still not finished)
>came along to offer similar processing flexability! PS MS-Dos was a
>direct ripoff of CPM!
>
> Guy
>
>On Sat, 13 Dec 1997 16:09:50 -0500, "Jeff Abrams" <doct...@erols.com>
>wrote:
>Guy Hilliard
>MAAC 34103
>President in charge of Vice (VP)
>Bramalea Radio Control Flyers Inc.
>(on Kennedy just south of Steeles in the Sports Park)
>
>Placed 3rd in "Sport" Catagory Toronto Hobby Show with
>an Ultimate Kaos .60. See my (X) Tiger Dec.97 RCM Pg 118
Guy or Lesley Hilliard
bst...@direct.ca
>
> How do you reverse engineer software? You figure that the Aliens had
>Windows '95 first?..........:)
>Richard
>
I thought Apple was the basis for Windows.
Blair.
Lee Cao
Not really. Both Bill Gates and Steve Jobs saw the first
windows/menu based graphical unser interface in a lab at
Xerox, who seem to have the perpetual bad luck of inventing
break-through technology that other people capitalized on.
In fact, a little known trivia is that Windows 1.0 was
released 4 months before the original MacIntosh. Also,
at the time, Microsoft was involved in their MS-DOS
deal with IBM.
Also, by Windows 3.0, Bill gates had figured out what he
wanted to do. He didn't copy MacIntosh's interface. If
he had, Microsoft would be in as much trouble as Apple
right now. I am not saying that Windows is perfect or
bug-free. But can anyone show me a better alternative to
Windows NT 4.0 that I am currently running? Good blend
of graphical user interface, true multi-thread premptive
multitasking (Mac System 8 still doesn't have this).
Mostly, I like NT for the reliability and robust security
features.
> Blair.
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Lee Cao
DaRCKiller wrote:
>
> Guy's Im sorry I brought up the Computer thing, please lets stay on topic..
> I was just using it as an example of someone trying to adapt things to a new
> arena.......
>
> BTW-Don't forget about the Workbench 1.3 & 2.0 OS.. Amiga had a great thing
> going if they coulda stayed open...
Something about a closed architecture and high price tag spelled
disaster for that awsome machine that brought Commodore to it's
knees. The technology was there, but people weren't ready...
That's when a 8-bit sound card and a 1x CD ROM qualified as a
"Multi Media" PC.
Jeff Abrams
>> >We wouldn't have these computers
>> >if people like Gate's and INTEL didn't push the envelope.
>> >
>> We wouldn't have these computers if Gates and Intel didn't steal,
>> reverse-engineer and acquire in a hostile manner, the envelope.
>>
>> -Jeff
>
>Windows '95 first?..........:)
>Richard
>
Uh, its called decompiling. Win95 (and its predecessors) is an amalgamation
of several things (not least of all, a program by Xerox and one by Hewlett
Packard).
-Jeff
Daniel Maupin
bst...@direct.ca wrote:
>
> >
> > How do you reverse engineer software? You figure that the Aliens had
> >Windows '95 first?..........:)
> >Richard
> >
> I thought Apple was the basis for Windows.
Not really. Both Bill Gates and Steve Jobs saw the first
windows/menu based graphical unser interface in a lab at
Xerox, who seem to have the perpetual bad luck of inventing
break-through technology that other people capitalized on.
In fact, a little known trivia is that Windows 1.0 was
released 4 months before the original MacIntosh. Also,
at the time, Microsoft was involved in their MS-DOS
deal with IBM.
Also, by Windows 3.0, Bill gates had figured out what he
wanted to do. He didn't copy MacIntosh's interface. If
he had, Microsoft would be in as much trouble as Apple
right now. I am not saying that Windows is perfect or
bug-free. But can anyone show me a better alternative to
Windows NT 4.0 that I am currently running? Good blend
of graphical user interface, true multi-thread premptive
multitasking (Mac System 8 still doesn't have this).
Mostly, I like NT for the reliability and robust security
features.
> Blair.
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Jim Surra
> > Hey Jim, ain't you heard that moon thing was a farce. I have it on good
> > information that it was played out on a stage somewhere out west (grin).
> >
> > Vince
> > AMA 266036
>
> Vince is right. Check out the Bond flick "Diamonds Are Forever" and you
> can see the stage they used!(snip)
> Jim Spiers
HMMPH!
I'll never believe it until I see it on "The Making Of.." on
HBO. THEN it's real! grin! %^)
JIM
Feldguy
I may as well chime in. As it is right now, if I am correct the original topic
was about landing planes on a modified boat with a carrier "deck" Well, guess
what? I am staring at a picture in Model Aviation (AMA magazine) And a "dork"
is landing an airplane on a scale sized "chunk of wood" and that "dork" doesn't
look to broke cuz he is holding a JR 10 channel PCM radio in his hands, and no,
that "dork" doesn't have a "buzzcut"
Try laying off the booze, it helps not to get flamed. Trust me, i am
experienced in getting flamed...just kidding guys.
vpc/jlc
bst...@direct.ca wrote:
>
> >
> > How do you reverse engineer software? You figure that the Aliens had
> >Windows '95 first?..........:)
> >Richard
> >
> I thought Apple was the basis for Windows.
Actually it was Xerox that first came up with GUI "Graphical User
Interface". The Apple freaks like to claim this one, but it goes to
Xerox.
Vince
AMA 266036
DaRCKiller
True, True, but look at what they had, they had TRUE stereo sound, before PC
ever THOUGHT of doing it, it was on level or better than most of todays
stuff, and it was 4+ years ago... and then take in thye Video toaster
stuff, MANY TV stationes used it cause it was simply the best, some still
do...
Lee Cao wrote in message <34937F79...@erols.com>...
>DaRCKiller wrote:
>>
>> Guy's Im sorry I brought up the Computer thing, please lets stay on
topic..
>> I was just using it as an example of someone trying to adapt things to a
new
>> arena.......
>>
>> BTW-Don't forget about the Workbench 1.3 & 2.0 OS.. Amiga had a great
thing
>> going if they coulda stayed open...
>
>Something about a closed architecture and high price tag spelled
>disaster for that awsome machine that brought Commodore to it's
>knees. The technology was there, but people weren't ready...
>
>That's when a 8-bit sound card and a 1x CD ROM qualified as a
>"Multi Media" PC.
>
Paolo Pizzi
vpc/jlc wrote:
> Actually it was Xerox that first came up with GUI "Graphical User
> Interface". The Apple freaks like to claim this one, but it goes to
> Xerox.
Still, Apple invented the invaluable trash can and many other
niceties that eventually ended in win95. If they licensed
their OS in 1987 we'd all be using a mac today.
Instead they got greedy (not that Microsoft aren't, but at
least commercially they're smarter...) and believed they could
sell a mac to anyone at those outrageous prices. What else
did you expect from a CEO that came from Pepsi?
--
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> What is with your attitude? If someone wants to push the envolope, what is
> your right to slam them for it. I personally have SEEN someone run aircraft
> of a moving boat, but the SCALE's of the boat and plane were not even close.
> If this guy can do it, MORE POWER TO HIM! We wouldn't have these computers
> if people like Gate's and INTEL didn't push the envelope.
Uh..."Gates and INTEL"? I assume you meant to say "Jobs and Wozniak" ;-)
cheers,
Bob Migliardi
IPMS Canada (www.ipmscanada.com)
Lee Cao
If the envelope contains the names of those on the next round of
Apple's layoffs, then yes, I agree.
>
> cheers,
>
> Bob Migliardi
> IPMS Canada (www.ipmscanada.com)
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Howard McCollister
Daniel Maupin wrote:
>> In fact, a little known trivia is that Windows 1.0 was
>> released 4 months before the original MacIntosh. Also,
>> at the time, Microsoft was involved in their MS-DOS
>> deal with IBM.
>>
>
I don't know if this is true or not, but I do know that as of today,
Windows still hasn't even come close to the Macintosh operating system.
If Windows 1.0 did indeed come out in 1983, then Bill Gates isn't as
smart as I thought, since in all this time he hasn't been able to come
up with anything better than Windows 95 for the consumer.
H Mccollister
jad...@pcug.org.au
I'm staying on topic here - anyone in Os care for an Amiga 2000, which
includes PhotonPaint and a useful CAD package? Free to a friendly home.
Call me on (02) 62887944.
Merry Christmas,
Johnno
> Guy's Im sorry I brought up the Computer thing, please lets stay on topic..
> I was just using it as an example of someone trying to adapt things to a new
> arena.......
>
> BTW-Don't forget about the Workbench 1.3 & 2.0 OS.. Amiga had a great thing
> going if they coulda stayed open...
>
> Larry
> Guy or Lesley Hilliard wrote in message
> <34933fb5...@usenet.idirect.com>...
> >Ya, but how do you get Digital Research (CPM, MPM, and CCPM, the last
> >two being true multitasking/ concurent operating systems that were
> >running back in the late 70's and early 80's) back into the game! It
> >wasn't until OS2 WARP(ed) and "Chicago" (Win 95, still not finished)
> >came along to offer similar processing flexability! PS MS-Dos was a
> >direct ripoff of CPM!
> >
> > Guy
> >
> >On Sat, 13 Dec 1997 16:09:50 -0500, "Jeff Abrams" <doct...@erols.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>>We wouldn't have these computers
> >>>if people like Gate's and INTEL didn't push the envelope.
> >>>
> >>We wouldn't have these computers if Gates and Intel didn't steal,
> >>reverse-engineer and acquire in a hostile manner, the envelope.
> >>
> >>-Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >
jad...@pcug.org.au
Anyone care to buy, or borrow, or get as a free gift, an Amiga 2000? This is
not off topic, as among the software is a great CAD package (I don't remember
the name, it's down in the garage)
This is of course only useful to those of us fortunate enough to live in the
land that time forgot - Orstralia!
Merry Christmas!
Lee Cao
Howard McCollister wrote:
>
> Daniel Maupin wrote:
>
> >> In fact, a little known trivia is that Windows 1.0 was
> >> released 4 months before the original MacIntosh. Also,
> >> at the time, Microsoft was involved in their MS-DOS
> >> deal with IBM.
> >>
> >
> Windows still hasn't even come close to the Macintosh operating system.
Ha! Come on. What are they up to now? System 8? Where is
pre-emptive multitasking? Even Windows 95 have it if all
programs that are running are 32-bit. I've worked as a
computer lab assistant in University of Maryland for almost
3 years, and people have just as much trouble, if not more,
running MacOS as Windows 95. I've seen more bomb icons than
General Protection Failures. And how exactly do you
efficiently copy between two floppies from a single floppy
drive without the help of third party utilities?
Just recently, University Of Maryland started removing the
MacIntosh computers from their labs. New PII machines are
coming in with Windows NT 4.0.
> If Windows 1.0 did indeed come out in 1983, then Bill Gates isn't as
> smart as I thought, since in all this time he hasn't been able to come
> up with anything better than Windows 95 for the consumer.
I don't have to add that the MacOS looks pretty much the
same dull way after all these years. With Steve Jobs
jumping ship, again, MacIntosh have to start *giving*
their computers away.
> H Mccollister
David Andriessen
Howard McCollister <hm...@uslink.net> wrote:
> I don't know if this is true or not, but I do know that as of today,
> Windows still hasn't even come close to the Macintosh operating system.
Hi Howard,
I agree if you're talking just about the GUI (graphical user interface),
it's still the easiest to use computer. Consistency of GUI layout across
all applications is unrivaled. In the color and font department it also
has no equal. Xtensions in Quark Express and Plug-ins in Photoshop are
still the most advanced on the Mac.
However, the underlying architecture of the OS are seriously outdated.
The stability and overall speed of the system has become questionable.
Personally I see NT as the next powerful desktop OS for graphic
designers and heavy duty 3D users. The OS is much more modern, not as
powerful as Solaris or Irix, but they are rapidly moving forward. NT
will soon have some of the scaleability of Unix and color management of
the Mac. For the desktop I think this will be the best of both worlds
for many years to come.
cheers,
--
david
vpc/jlc
Please take the PC vs MAC vs Commodore vs Amiga thing to the proper NG.
Vince
AMA 266036
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DBone62556
Vince wrote:
>
>Please take the PC vs MAC vs Commodore vs Amiga thing to the >proper NG.
>
DITTO!
Dave Bone
Jerel Zarestky
Lee Cao wrote:
> bst...@direct.ca wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > How do you reverse engineer software? You figure that the Aliens
> had
> > >Windows '95 first?..........:)
> > >Richard
> > >
> > I thought Apple was the basis for Windows.
>
> Not really.
Yes REALLY.
> Both Bill Gates and Steve Jobs saw the first
> windows/menu based graphical unser interface in a lab at
> Xerox, who seem to have the perpetual bad luck of inventing
> break-through technology that other people capitalized on.
>
> In fact, a little known trivia is that Windows 1.0 was
> released 4 months before the original MacIntosh.
Have you ever used Windows 1.0? Utter garbage!
> Also, at the time, Microsoft was involved in their MS-DOS
> deal with IBM.
>
> Also, by Windows 3.0, Bill gates had figured out what he
> wanted to do. He didn't copy MacIntosh's interface. If
> he had, Microsoft would be in as much trouble as Apple
> right now.
What?!!! That's not the reason Apple is in trouble. The interface is
the best part. It's their management and marketing that sucks. If Bill
Gates had bought the Mac OS and sold it, we'd all be using it and be
about 5-10 years further down the road. As it is we're dealing with the
DOS legacy even in Windows 95.
> I am not saying that Windows is perfect or
> bug-free. But can anyone show me a better alternative to
> Windows NT 4.0 that I am currently running? Good blend
> of graphical user interface, true multi-thread premptive
> multitasking (Mac System 8 still doesn't have this).
> Mostly, I like NT for the reliability and robust security
> features.
I think it's a good thing we had this competition between Microsoft and
Apple; everyone benifits. PC users *finally* get to see at least a
little bit of what the Mac people have been saying for 10 years and the
Mac OS is getting better and better as well.
Jerel
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Jerel Zarestky
Lee Cao wrote:
> Ha! Come on. What are they up to now? System 8? Where is
> pre-emptive multitasking? Even Windows 95 have it if all
> programs that are running are 32-bit. I've worked as a
> computer lab assistant in University of Maryland for almost
> 3 years, and people have just as much trouble, if not more,
> running MacOS as Windows 95. I've seen more bomb icons than
> General Protection Failures.
And I've talked to two computer lab assistants at the Unversity of TN;
If the student knows *no* OS then they have problems. Look at the
important part; setting them up. For example; one room with 30 Macs
and another with 22 PC's. Setting up the Macs took about 1/4 th the
time.
> And how exactly do you
> efficiently copy between two floppies from a single floppy
> drive without the help of third party utilities?
Uh, how about option-drag to the desktop, eject disk, insert disk, drag
to new disk?
> I don't have to add that the MacOS looks pretty much the
> same dull way after all these years. With Steve Jobs
> jumping ship, again, MacIntosh have to start *giving*
> their computers away.
We'll see. The new G3's are blowing away the latest PII's in speed and
the top-of-the-line Macs with the G3 are $2000-$3000. If Apple can pull
off Rhapsody then your multitasking arguments are gone.
BTW, even without multitasking, I can switch between applications
quicker and easier on my Mac than I can on my W95 machine. And that's
just one of dozens of features that are simpler easier and quicker on
the Mac OS.
Joe Hegedus
Can you all please not post these to rec.models.scale? It's really out
of scope there.
Don Hatten
Joe Hegedus wrote:
>
> Can you all please not post these to rec.models.scale? It's really out
> of scope there.
Agreed, Joe. It is not welcome in all the other groups, either. If
people want a long drawn out discussion on WIN vs Apple vs Timex vs
Amiga vs... take it to an appropriate newsgroup or do it via e-mail.
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Beavis
In article <NEWTNews.882161...@jadams.pcug.org.au>,
jad...@pcug.org.au writes
Cops" but come on guys, if we want to spend all day reading and writing
about the MS v Mac and all the rest, surely there's a computer
discussion group for just this? The groups that are getting all this
happen to be MODELLING groups, about flying and stuff. ThNOT being
computers.
Incidentally, I have three of them. (Computers that is :-)
--
Beavis
vpc/jlc
Beavis wrote:
> How's this NOT off-topic? Now everyone knows how much I hate the "Topic-
> Cops" but come on guys, if we want to spend all day reading and writing
> about the MS v Mac and all the rest, surely there's a computer
> discussion group for just this? The groups that are getting all this
> happen to be MODELLING groups, about flying and stuff. ThNOT being
> computers.
>
> Incidentally, I have three of them. (Computers that is :-)
>
> --
> Beavis
Good shot Beavis, I hope you accomplished something.
Vince
AMA 266036
P.S. I also have three of them.
Lee Cao
Jerel Zarestky wrote:
> And I've talked to two computer lab assistants at the Unversity of TN;
> If the student knows *no* OS then they have problems. Look at the
> important part; setting them up. For example; one room with 30 Macs
> and another with 22 PC's. Setting up the Macs took about 1/4 th the
> time.
First, you only setup a computer once. And with today's PCs,
setting up a PC is just plugging in the various cords.
Believe me, as the computer purchasing agent for the company
I work with, I've purchased and setup many machines. None of
them required more attention than plugging everything in and
making sure that the mouse and keyboard cords aren't switched.
> > And how exactly do you
> > efficiently copy between two floppies from a single floppy
> > drive without the help of third party utilities?
>
> Uh, how about option-drag to the desktop, eject disk, insert disk, drag
> to new disk?
The point is that there is no direct disk-to-disk way of doing
it. What if say Microsoft Word (heaven forbit) was running
and it is using a file that is on the floppy that is in the
drive. How do you do a copy without that "insert disk x"
message? The problem is that MacOS have to mount the drives,
much like Unix-based OS do, before actually using it.
>
> > I don't have to add that the MacOS looks pretty much the
> > same dull way after all these years. With Steve Jobs
> > jumping ship, again, MacIntosh have to start *giving*
> > their computers away.
>
> We'll see. The new G3's are blowing away the latest PII's in speed and
> the top-of-the-line Macs with the G3 are $2000-$3000. If Apple can pull
> off Rhapsody then your multitasking arguments are gone.
New G3? Are these actually shipping now? Or is it just
another "coming soon" thing that is so common in the Mac world?
And "blowing" away is a little low on the detail side. While
a RISC processor by nature will be faster on floating point
calculations than a CISC processor, real world performance will
depend on a lot more than just floating point calculations.
Besides: Quad PII running with NT, is there *anything* remotely
comparable from Apple?
Rhapsody? What happened to BeOS, you know, that OS that didn't
suspport a floppy? What's keeping Apple from dropping even
Rhapsody after they decide to start fresh on another ill fated
OS with a cheezy name?
> BTW, even without multitasking, I can switch between applications
> quicker and easier on my Mac than I can on my W95 machine. And that's
> just one of dozens of features that are simpler easier and quicker on
> the Mac OS.
Eh? Switching applications? On Win95, all the applications are
on the task bar. Just select the one you need. On a Mac, you
have to use a drop-down menu. And there is always alt-tab for
those hot-key afficionados.
>
> Jerel
>
> --
> Jerel Zarestky
> Neutron Scattering Group
> Ames Laboratory / ISU @ Oak Ridge National Laboratory
> http://neutrons.ornl.gov/
>
--
Sheryl Coyle
Corey Vodvarka wrote:
>
> Don't waste your time bonehead. I can just see a couple dorks cruisin
> around some pond on a big chunk of wood trying to land their model plane
> on it without giving themselves a buzzcut. What a waste of time and $$$!
How do YOU know that it won't work? i can only assume that that YOU
must have been one of the "dorks" who tried it out and lost out. Give
someone credit for putting forward a new idea, the idea may need some
refinement and thinking "outside the square", but could be practical.
Good on them for suggesting it and facing their potential critics and
sceptics - that takes some doing. How many people have not suggested or
tried something because of a fear of embarassment or ridicule from some
ill-informed or narrow-minded individual(s)?
Don't knock it untill you've tried it.
Si
Auckland
New Zealand
Barton Spencer Brown
Basta! Take this discussion out of this newsgroup, please. And if
"please" doesn't do it for you, I *will* contact your ISP.
Bart Brown
vpc/jlc
Excellent suggestion Barton.
Vince
AMA 266036
--
Beavis
In article <3495DF...@iamerica.net>, vpc/jlc
<auror...@iamerica.net> writes
Not a hope in hell of accomplishing anything useful though eh Vince?
If there's ONE thing I've learned from Usenet, it's that everyone talks
and no-one listens, espaecially if the opinions expressed don't jibe
with their own. Ah well, that's Usenet for you :-)
--
Beavis
Bob Migliardi
Geeez... Now I'm almost sorry I started this whole discussion! The only
thing we've proven here is that computers are just like cars. Ours is
always better that the one the other guy drives. Anyway... judging from
all the comments, we all seem to be adequately adept with our own
computers, whatever they may be.
Oh, by the way...the boys from Tamaya were recently in Ottawa at the
National Aviation Museum measuring and photographing the Swordfish and
Mosquito. Interesting, eh?
cheers,
Bob Migliardi
www.ipmscanada.com
Larry
>> And how exactly do you
>> efficiently copy between two floppies from a single floppy
>> drive without the help of third party utilities?
>
>Uh, how about option-drag to the desktop, eject disk, insert disk, drag
>to new disk?
HHHHMMMMMMM... lets see a certain WIN95 command of COPY DISK seems to jump
to mind..
>BTW, even without multitasking, I can switch between applications
>quicker and easier on my Mac than I can on my W95 machine. And that's
>just one of dozens of features that are simpler easier and quicker on
>the Mac OS.
>
UUMMMMMMMMMMMM lets see HOLD ALT then hit TAB.. That is SOOOOOOO hard to
do..
C'mon folks, there is NO one perfect system, each has + AND -.. no lets move
thois discussion to another newsgroup PLEASE!
LisaOD
This is a Radio Controlled Helicopter Newsgroup, I don't see computer listed
in that title. Do you?
Harry Mudd
> Something about a closed architecture and high price tag spelled
> disaster for that awsome machine that brought Commodore to it's
> knees. The technology was there, but people weren't ready...
>
> That's when a 8-bit sound card and a 1x CD ROM qualified as a
> "Multi Media" PC.
Now, now. I was there when the Texas Instrument 4/TI came out! And I had an
Adlib 8-bit card JUST a few years later! CD-ROM? That thing that fits my
5.25" floppies?
I know, I know, WAY off-topic. But I couldn't resist.
J.R.
Harry Mudd
One last one!
Webster's Definition of Windows
Subject: Windows 95
Windows 95: n.
32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an
8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor,
written by a 2-bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition.
(And believe it or not, I hate MACs!)
J.R.
Paul Austin
I embrace the Penguin. best o/s going and all for free ! Enlightenment X
window user.
Paul
Jim White
"Harry Mudd" <hm...@erolspam.com> wrote:
boy is that one getting tired....
Jim White
AMA 2466
WB2WOY
WPMPA/BCF
Treasure Island, FL
Beavis
In article <34bf5193...@207.126.101.79>, Jim White
<jimw...@ij.net> writes
Jim, you're keeping the ball rolling in all the other groups too. And
that's just as tiring.
Beavis.
Please remove XXX from reply address.
I had to change my address due to huge amounts of spam!!!
Beavis@nachos dot demon dot co dot uk is what it should read.