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Dan Carey

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May 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/8/97
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Duane MacInnis wrote:
>
> Hello out there
>
> Hmmm... Today's burning question: Is it pronounced "Way-ko" or Walk-o"
>
> Thanks
>
> Duane in Vancoooooov'r


WRONG! It's pronounced wack-o. Check it out in any historical
publication referencing the Waco aircraft.

Regards,
Dan

Duane MacInnis

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Richard Johnson

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On 9 May 1997 03:21:02 GMT, "Duane MacInnis"
<duane_m...@mindlink.bc.ca> wrote:

It's pronounced Way-ko. At least that's how the people who live in
Waco, Texas pronounce it.


Glenn Burroughs

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NO-SPAM//JawaT...@worldnet.att.net (Richard Johnson) wrote:

>On 9 May 1997 03:21:02 GMT, "Duane MacInnis"
><duane_m...@mindlink.bc.ca> wrote:

>>Hello out there
>>
>>Hmmm... Today's burning question: Is it pronounced "Way-ko" or Walk-o"
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Duane in Vancoooooov'r


An old pilot I know who flew a WACO UPF7 in the 1940's pronounced it
Waa-ko. Perhaps that included her Virginia accent.

Glenn


Wb4guk

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In article <3374b452...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
NO-SPAM//JawaT...@worldnet.att.net (Richard Johnson) writes:

>On 9 May 1997 03:21:02 GMT, "Duane MacInnis"
><duane_m...@mindlink.bc.ca> wrote:

>snip


>>Hmmm... Today's burning question: Is it pronounced "Way-ko" or
Walk-o"

>>Duane in Vancoooooov'r
>snip


>It's pronounced Way-ko. At least that's how the people who live in
>Waco, Texas pronounce it.

And the same for Waco, Kentucky. But I have always heard the airplane name
pronounced "Woc-o".
Woc as rhymes with rock.

Dan
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Mark Morland

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On Fri, 09 May 1997 05:22:13 GMT, NO-SPAM//JawaT...@worldnet.att.net
(Richard Johnson) wrote:
>On 9 May 1997 03:21:02 GMT, "Duane MacInnis"
><duane_m...@mindlink.bc.ca> wrote:
>>Hmmm... Today's burning question: Is it pronounced "Way-ko" or Walk-o"
>>Thanks
>>Duane in Vancoooooov'r
>
>It's pronounced Way-ko. At least that's how the people who live in
>Waco, Texas pronounce it.
>

True for the city in Texas, but the airplane is pronounced Walk-o.
Ohio was the location of their production.

I have never owned one, but I've flown a WACO UPF-7. My favorite
airplane.

Mark

Allenbw

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Actualy it is pronounce Walk-o. Common misconception is to pronounce it
like the town in TX. Brian

Robbie and Laura Reynolds

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Dan Carey wrote:
>
> Duane MacInnis wrote:
> >
> > Hello out there
> >
> > Hmmm... Today's burning question: Is it pronounced "Way-ko" or Walk-o"
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Duane in Vancoooooov'r
>
> WRONG! It's pronounced wack-o. Check it out in any historical
> publication referencing the Waco aircraft.
>
> Regards,
> Dan


I don't know if it's walk-o or wack-o, but it's not way-co. The town in Texas
is the only thing pronounced that way.
It's also not properly spelled Waco, it's WACO, an acronym.

Robbie
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STEVEN J WACO II

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being that my daddy started the biss, back before i can remember, and after
knowing my mother in the biblical term to know, and then giving us his last
name, and to have had poeple make fun of our last name for all these years,
im sad to see that half the people out there still cant say WACO , now say
it just like me, WACO, WACO , WACO , WACO good your almost there, have fun,
good flying, cheeerios.

Steven

Duane MacInnis <duane_m...@mindlink.bc.ca> wrote in article
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Dave Tatosian

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In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.970509...@piglet.cc.utexas.edu>,

Tim Purcell <tpur...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
>> Hmmm... Today's burning question: Is it pronounced "Way-ko" or Walk-o"
>It rhymes w/ Whacko

Well, no, it doesn't. As the world authority of all things Waco, and the
scratch designer/builder/Scale Master competitor of the 93" span Waco Cabin
VKS7F - Charlie Nelson - will tell you (repeatedly, and often): it rhymes with
Walk-Oh...

Trust me - I don't make that Whack-O or Wake-O mistake around Charlie - unless
I have an hour to kill ;^)

Tim Purcell

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Dave Stadt

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Western Aircraft Company

Dave S.


Don Hatten wrote:
>
> 13 responses...1 response said it was an acronym, which I believe is
> correct, but nobody offered what the acronym stands for...any takers?
>
> What does WACO stand for?
>
> (no... not We All Cooked Ourselves...or We Ain't Comin' Out)
>
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Don Hatten

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Red Scholefield

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On 9 May 1997, Duane MacInnis wrote:

> Hello out there
>

> Hmmm... Today's burning question: Is it pronounced "Way-ko" or Walk-o"
>

I've heard it pronounced "Wacko" also. Sorry, couldn't resist. G>

Red S.


Larkin Buechmann

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Robbie and Laura Reynolds wrote:

>
> Dan Carey wrote:
> >
> > Duane MacInnis wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello out there
> > >
> > > Hmmm... Today's burning question: Is it pronounced "Way-ko" or Walk-o"
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Duane in Vancoooooov'r
> >
> > WRONG! It's pronounced wack-o. Check it out in any historical
> > publication referencing the Waco aircraft.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dan
>
> I don't know if it's walk-o or wack-o, but it's not way-co. The town in Texas
> is the only thing pronounced that way.
> It's also not properly spelled Waco, it's WACO, an acronym.
>
> Robbie
> --
> Remove anti-spam "X" from return address to reply.


Two guys were traveling through Texas and noticed the sign Waco-10
miles. They got into an argument concerning the pronunciation of the
name Waco, one said way-co, the other said wock-o. Unable to settle the
dispute, they decided to stop at the first business place they came to
in Waco and would ask a local resident for the correct pronunciation of
the name. Upon arriving in Waco, they stop at a local business, go
inside and ask the person to tell them the name of this place. They ask
that the person do so slowly and clearly so they can be sure to
understand. The store attendant does just so. He says" D-A-I-R-Y
Q-U-E-E-N "

Red Scholefield

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SNIP


> It's also not properly spelled Waco, it's WACO, an acronym.
>

Actually WACO is for the founder Geroge "Buck" Weaver who started the
Weaver Aircraft Company in Loraine Ohio (1919). It was reorganized as the
Advance Aircraft Co. in 1923 in Troy Ohio. Waco became the official name
in 1929.

By 1936 they were the largest constructors of commercial aircraft in the
US. The company went out of business in 1947 abandoning a new monoplane,
the Aristocrat. They returned in 1966 building the Waco Vela II
(Savoia-Marchetti S.205) and the Waco Sirius (Socata Rallye
Minerva) They became the Waco Aircraft Division of Allied Aero
Industries around 1972. Since then someone else will have to fill
in the details.

Ref:The Complete Illustrated Encyclopedia of the Worlds Aircraft - David
Mondey F.R. Hist.S. A&W Publishers NY

________________ Red Scholefield _______________
\_____________ AMA 951 IMAA 18939 _____________/
\__________ Flying Gators Inc. __________/
\________Gainesville, FL ________/

Sam and Sonja Sorem

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May 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/10/97
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One of my flying buddies, who has been a crop duster since way back
when, says "walk-o". I'll check with him today, but my guess is he
probably has some personal knowledge of the correct pronuciation.

NO-SPAM//JawaT...@worldnet.att.net (Richard Johnson) wrote:

>On 9 May 1997 03:21:02 GMT, "Duane MacInnis"

><duane_m...@mindlink.bc.ca> wrote:

>>Hello out there
>>
>>Hmmm... Today's burning question: Is it pronounced "Way-ko" or Walk-o"
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Duane in Vancoooooov'r

>It's pronounced Way-ko. At least that's how the people who live in
>Waco, Texas pronounce it.


STEVEN JOKE WACO II

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HEY ITS A JOKE im not really STEVEN J WACO II im kidding, you dont have to
send email saying your not making fun off my name, realy its OK,

Steve
***************************************************
Thanks for you note, but . . .

it didn't say how to pronounce the name.

I've never "made fun" of the name, I just don't know how to
pronounce it.

Is it :

wah-ko

whack-o

way-ko

or something else altogether ?

Cheers,
i removed the name and email address!

STEVEN J WACO II <Gr8l...@execpc.com> wrote in article
<01bc5c81$b313ff20$d948cfa9@supermicro>...


> being that my daddy started the biss, back before i can remember, and
after
> knowing my mother in the biblical term to know, and then giving us his
last
> name, and to have had poeple make fun of our last name for all these
years,
> im sad to see that half the people out there still cant say WACO , now
say
> it just like me, WACO, WACO , WACO , WACO good your almost there, have
fun,
> good flying, cheeerios.
>
> Steven
>
> Duane MacInnis <duane_m...@mindlink.bc.ca> wrote in article
> <01bc5c27$fe2be220$3dcabfcc@trianon>...

Dennis W Johnson

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On Fri, 9 May 1997, Richard Johnson wrote:

> On 9 May 1997 03:21:02 GMT, "Duane MacInnis"
> <duane_m...@mindlink.bc.ca> wrote:
>

> >Hello out there
> >Hmmm... Today's burning question: Is it pronounced "Way-ko"
> >or Walk-o"
> >Thanks
> >Duane in Vancoooooov'r
>

> It's pronounced Way-ko. At least that's how the people who live
> in Waco, Texas pronounce it.

No, the name stands for "W"estern "A"ircraft "Co". The proper
pronounciation is Wah Ko.
dj


Robbie and Laura Reynolds

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Don Hatten wrote:
>
> 13 responses...1 response said it was an acronym, which I believe is
> correct, but nobody offered what the acronym stands for...any takers?
>
> What does WACO stand for?


Would you believe that my 1993 Jane's encyclopedia doesn't even list WACO?
I wonder why.

Robbie

Red Scholefield

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On Sat, 10 May 1997, Dennis W Johnson wrote:
>
> No, the name stands for "W"estern "A"ircraft "Co". The proper
> pronounciation is Wah Ko.
> dj

The Complete Illustrated Encyclopedia of the World's Aircraft edited by
David Mondey E.R. Hist.S attributes Waco to the Weaver Aircraft Company
started by "George "Buck" Weaver in 1919. Is this information incorrect,
does someone have a source that contradicts it?

Dave Tatosian

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In article <337490...@kcnet.Xcom>,

Robbie and Laura Reynolds <rob...@kcnet.Xcom> wrote:
>Don Hatten wrote:
>>
>> 13 responses...1 response said it was an acronym, which I believe is
>> correct, but nobody offered what the acronym stands for...any takers?
>> What does WACO stand for?

"The original WACO Aircraft Company was started in the early 20's by Clayton
Bruckner and Elwood "Sam" Junkin in Lorain, Ohio. They included a well-known
local barnstormer, Buck Weaver, as a partner and used his name to draw
interest in their product.

Thus came the name WACO (Weaver Airplane Company)."

(From http://www.cyberxpress.com/waco/company.htm, homepage of "The WACO
Aircraft Company" - manufacturers of scale WACO models).

koh...@us.advantis.com

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With all the modelers on this list, surely someone has heard of the
famous Frank Weston, owner/operator of Weston Aerodesign Company. Visit
his website at <http://www2.ari.net/home/waco>.

If this is news to you, you need to join the Soaring Exchange, accessible
from my own website ...

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James D. Jones

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Duane MacInnis wrote in article <01bc5c27$fe2be220$3dcabfcc@trianon>...

>Hello out there
>
>Hmmm... Today's burning question: Is it pronounced "Way-ko" or Walk-o"
>
More like "Wock-O". Some guys I know ace wacko for Wacos.

Jim Jones

Wachusett Barnstormers

Red Scholefield

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May 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/11/97
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On Sun, 11 May 1997, Dave Tatosian wrote:

> "The original WACO Aircraft Company was started in the early 20's by Clayton
> Bruckner and Elwood "Sam" Junkin in Lorain, Ohio. They included a well-known
> local barnstormer, Buck Weaver, as a partner and used his name to draw
> interest in their product.
>
> Thus came the name WACO (Weaver Airplane Company)."
>
> (From http://www.cyberxpress.com/waco/company.htm, homepage of "The WACO
> Aircraft Company" - manufacturers of scale WACO models).
>

Thanks, I'm going to add this to my encyclopedia via a postit note. Also
the home page.

Dave Stadt

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Be aware these are full scale kits.

Dave S.

Mark Fineman

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It is indeed pronounced "Wah-ko," and might be rhymed
with "Ma So." It isn't pronounced like the name of the city
in Texas even though the spellings are alike.


Dave Tatosian

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In article <337677...@ameritech.net>,

Dave Stadt <dhs...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>Be aware these are full scale kits.

DOH! Somehow I managed to completely miss that minor detail ;^)

> On Sun, 11 May 1997, Dave Tatosian wrote:

>> "The original WACO Aircraft Company was started in the early 20's by
>>Clayton Bruckner and Elwood "Sam" Junkin in Lorain, Ohio. They included a
>>well-known local barnstormer, Buck Weaver, as a partner and used his name to
>>draw interest in their product.
>>
>> Thus came the name WACO (Weaver Airplane Company)."
>>
>> (From http://www.cyberxpress.com/waco/company.htm, homepage of "The WACO
>> Aircraft Company" - manufacturers of scale WACO models).

In article <5l4554$lfe$2...@ausnews.austin.ibm.com>,


koh...@us.advantis.com wrote:
>With all the modelers on this list, surely someone has heard of the
>famous Frank Weston, owner/operator of Weston Aerodesign Company. Visit
>his website at <http://www2.ari.net/home/waco>.

>If this is news to you, you need to join the Soaring Exchange, accessible
>from my own website ...

Err...that's a WACO in name only (t'aint the Real Thang! ;^)

Cheers!

/dave

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Red Scholefield <red...@gnv.fdt.net> wrote in article
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>
> On Sat, 10 May 1997, Dennis W Johnson wrote:
> >
> > No, the name stands for "W"estern "A"ircraft "Co". The proper
> > pronounciation is Wah Ko.
> > dj
>
> The Complete Illustrated Encyclopedia of the World's Aircraft edited by
> David Mondey E.R. Hist.S attributes Waco to the Weaver Aircraft Company
> started by "George "Buck" Weaver in 1919. Is this information incorrect,
> does someone have a source that contradicts it?
>
> ________________ Red Scholefield _______________

Yes and No. I have on the table a book titled "WACO 'Ask Any Pilot'" by
Raymond H. Brandly, subtitled "The Authentic History Of Waco Airplanes and
The Biographies Of The Founders Clayton J. Brukner and Elwood J. "Sam"
Junkin.

In establishing credentials of the author, the forward contains a letter
from Clayton Brukner to the author which I quote in part, "I would like to
support any project which is sincerely devoted to the accurate portrayal of
the Waco story.....". The book was obviously written with considerably
cooperation from the company as many of the pictures are of the type which
would come from company archives.

As to the burning questions. On page 10, "By now it became evident that
some financing would have to be arranged. Clayton Brukner said, "Buck was
the popular local pilot and we figured his name would be persuasive in
obtaining local financing. So, "Sam" Junkin and "Clayt" Brukner formed a
company and agreed to call it the Weaver Aircraft Company, with "Buck"
Weaver negotiating the financing. Thus, the initials W-A-C-O (for Weaver
Aircraft Company) became their product name. It was purposely pronounced
"Wah-co" from the beginning to attract attention as a trade name."

Just as Food Machinery Company officially changed their name to FMC in the
70's, better reflection of reality, the book implies that perhaps they
wished remove Weaver from such a prominent position.

As to the capitalization, the book uses Waco throughout. Again, I think the
true founders wanted to be known as Waco and not as an acronym of Weaver
Aircraft Co.

"Buck" Weaver died young of in 1924 of a none aviation related injury
(blister) to his heel that became infected with blood poisoning. He had
taught both founders to fly.

Interesting fact. The first plane built by Sam and Clayt was called the
Cootie and was built mostly of WW I Jenny parts.


--
Merle Hastings
AMA 98819

Jim Breeyear

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Dave Stadt wrote:
>
> Western Aircraft Company
>
> Dave S.
>
> Don Hatten wrote:
> >
> > 13 responses...1 response said it was an acronym, which I believe is
> > correct, but nobody offered what the acronym stands for...any takers?
> >
> > What does WACO stand for?
> >
> > (no... not We All Cooked Ourselves...or We Ain't Comin' Out)
> >
> > --
> > *****************************************
> > Don Hatten hat...@syix.com
> > 1170 Kenny Dr #1 AMA #SOARDOG
> > Yuba City, Ca 95991 USHGA #17442
> > KE6TJG
> > Proponent of rec.models.rc.gliders
> > *****************************************


I personally like WACK-O.

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Martin Usher

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What is WACO?

Reading this thread its obvious that its a historical name from some
years ago.

But its also the name of a modern outfit, a very well known model
sailplane maker called 'Weston Aerodesign Company' (prop Frank Weston).
These are not models in the scale sense but rather the sorts of
sailplanes that you enter and win competitions with.

I think the name's use is conincidental.


JMayers800

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May 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/15/97
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You can't go by what Texans say, even thought Waco is in Texas.

Hey buddy, where are you from?

TAXES

Income, sales, estate taxes?

No dad burn it, the State of Taxes

Proosta

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I go to school in Longview Texas.

I say WACK -O for the plane and WAY-KO for the city. some beautiful
flowers outside of Waco along the highways.

Jim Deatsch

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Proosta wrote:

The purists will argue that Waco is pronounced with the ahhhh sound.
Sort of like Paco or Taco.

Jim


Sherwin Arculis

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May 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/23/97
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In article <33861802...@worldnet.att.net>, Jim Deatsch
<jdea...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Way Ko. Ask the guys who built it. Or ask EAA. Or check the AF museum at
Wright Pat.

Arc

James D. Jones

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Sherwin Arculis <sarc...@pipeline.com> wrote in article
<sarcover-230...@user-37kbbce.dialup.mindspring.com>...
Or ask Charlie Nelson. He'll say Wock-O, and he flys the best Waco models
in the country.
--
Jim Jones, Wachusett Barnstormers
North-Central Massachusetts AMA 501383

Dave Tatosian

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In article <01bc68ae$ce798580$2ff5...@jdjones.ziplink.net>,

"James D. Jones" <jdj...@ziplink.net> wrote:
>Sherwin Arculis <sarc...@pipeline.com> wrote in article
>>Way Ko. Ask the guys who built it. Or ask EAA. Or check the AF museum
>>at Wright Pat.

>Or ask Charlie Nelson. He'll say Wock-O, and he flys the best Waco models
>in the country.

I think it's safe to say that Charlie's Waco cabin models are the best in the
world...

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