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DAVLIN1960

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Jan 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/31/99
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I'm looking for plans or kit ( 80 inches or larger ) for a British " Westland
Lysander" The full scale was used by the RAF and was manufactured in the mid
30's to ?
The full scale sports a gull wing and a unique cockpit area and rather large
wheel pants .
I think it would make a interesting tow plane for gliders .
Thanks in advance
Dave
davli...@aol.com


Kjell Aanvik

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Jan 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/31/99
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Nexus plans service in th UK has plans for a Westland Lysander just about that
size for you.

Contact them at
Nexus Special interests Ltd.,
Nexus House, Azalea Drive
Swanley, Kent BR8 8HY
England
tel +44 1322 66 00 70
fax +44 1322 66 76 33

And no, they don't believe in E-mail or internet there
Kjell Aanvik
Oslo, Norway

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btighe

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Feb 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/3/99
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1,593 produced between June 1936 and Jan 1942. Knickname "Lizzie"

Let me know if you find such a kit, I would be interested myself.

David Larkin

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Feb 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/3/99
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There was an outfit in England that marketed a rather semiscale kit
about 6 years ago. Haven't seen it mentioned lately. But there is a
Dennis Bryant plan - DEL90 - for an 81 inch model available from Nexus
Plans Services or from Bob Holman Plans. I've seen a Lysander fly
with an OS Sirius engine and I presume it was from that plan.

Dave Larkin
MAAC 3577L

Dave Ottney

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Feb 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/6/99
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I''ve got one of the English FliteCraft Lysanders. I picked it up in a
sale pretty cheap. the plane itself it really pretty good as far as
standoff or sport scale goes. The instructions and plans were very
limited (i.e.: no full sized drawing and about 2.5 pages of
instructions-assemble wing, glue fuse parts together, etc.) It is all
foam and obeche covered. It took a bit of engineering to put together,
things like making the hidden tail feather controls accessible took a lot
of time to re-engineer with a removable fuse tail assembly. The hor. stab
had a piece of balsa that was as hard as oak or steel and weighed a ton, I
replaced it with much lighter balsa. I redid the wings so that there
would be servos out in the wings for the ailerons. The top of the cabin
window/frame assembly and the side glass assembly were a real trial and
I finally made my own rather than using what was in the kit. The other
cabin glass/frame assembllies needed mods but were usable.
I finished the plane with a combination of Solartex and Monokote to
represent the fabric and metal portions. LusterKote paint and Model
Master paint were used with an overspray of LusterKote clear . It turned
out very nice if I say so myself.
The plane has some pretty tough handling on the ground due to the naroow
stance of the landing gear. In the air its a dream. It flies very scale
like with an OS 90 four stroke (pre Surpass). It is very stable and has
no nasty habits. I only flew a couple of times last summer but htis
summer I'd like to get it up more often.
If you'd like to see some pics of it point your browser to
http://home.eznet.net/~dottney/RCpage.html.
If you have any questions about this kit please feel free to email me. I
can't guarentee I can answer everything but maybe I can help. By the way
this is a pretty expewnsive kit if you buy through normal channels with
the company in England.
Dave Ottney
Penfield, NY

In article <36B88C...@igs.net>, David Larkin <dsla...@igs.net> wrote:

> There was an outfit in England that marketed a rather semiscale kit
> about 6 years ago. Haven't seen it mentioned lately. But there is a
> Dennis Bryant plan - DEL90 - for an 81 inch model available from Nexus
> Plans Services or from Bob Holman Plans. I've seen a Lysander fly
> with an OS Sirius engine and I presume it was from that plan.

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Dave Ottney

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Feb 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/7/99
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I have built the FliteCraft Westlansd Lysander. If you want to see a pic
of this model please point your browser to
http://home.eznet.net/~dottney/RCpage.html.

The kit is from England and quite expensive. I was fortunate enough to
pick it up through a sale of some stuff a guy was unloading due to a move
out of the US. It was very heavily discounted and therefore affordable.

As far as the kit goes it was a bit of a bear to build. It is totally
obeche covered foam. There is only a diagram of the model, no full sized
plan. The instructions were approx 2 1/2 typed pages with instructions
like "assemble the wing".
I had a lot of engineering and re-engineering to do on it. In order to
make the empenage controls accessible I had to design a fuse end area that
could be "unplugged". The cabin windows/canopy were somewhat tough also.
The area above the wing was unusable as far as I was concerned so I mad
that area out of various plastic parts which are held in place by a pin
and screw. The side window frames are hinged so that the radio equipment
can be accessed. The front wind screen has an aluminium frame around the
edges thus strengthen it and making it removable.
The horizontal stab was replaced as the one with the kit was hard as a
rock and weighed a ton. The landing gear is a huge piece of aluminum. I
put servos in the wings for the ailerons. This entailed removing the
"snakes" (Brit term for nirod tubes) and putting in a "trench" for the
servo cables and a "well" for the servos. The cowls is a one piece affair
that has roker arm blisters and exhaust pipe glued to it. A very nice
piece of work.
I covered the plane with monokote and SolarTex to represent the metal and
fabric on the real plane. I use LusterKote paint to match the tan
Monokote and Model Master RAF Green for the rest. The LusterKote was a
real pleasure to use and matched the tan MonoKote to a tee. The whole
thing was oversprayed with LusterKote Flat Clear. The decals are from the
Major Decals set used on teh 1/6 scale Pica Spitfire. The letters were
cut and adjusted for the proper squadron codes.

The plane came out at a bit over 10lbs and is powered by an OS 90 FS (pre
Surpass)
The plane is a bit tough to handle on the ground due to the narrow stance
of the main gear. I originally had a steerable tail wheel but have made
it free wheeling due to it being a bit to delicate and giving me trouble
after landings. The plane is a real pleasure in the air. It handles very
scale like and might be a bit boring for those looking to bore holes in
the sky. The OS 90 pulls it with ease.
All in all it is a great plane but I don't think I want to pay full price
for it. The company has other planes, notably a Polish PZL11 gull winged
fighter.... Very cool but again a bit pricey.
If you have any questions please feel free to email me, maybe I can help.
Dave Ottney
Penfield, NY

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Harry Curzon

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Feb 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/8/99
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Thanks for that Dave, nice to see the photos. I nearly bought one of the
kits at a show last year, but talking to the designer/manufacturer it was
clear that it was going to come out to a weight that I considered to be too
heavy. I was at one of the airshows at the Imperial War Museum at Duxford
earlier last year, when they flew a restored Lysander. Whilst it does not
do fighter style aerobatics, it is no slow Fiesler Storch either - it is
quite fast and very agile so you need not feel guilty at throwing it around
in tight turns and wingovers.

Late last year I had the great pleasure of meeting Andy Sephton, chief pilot
at the Shuttleworth Collection, who flies the Lysander. Apparently it is
very nose heavy, hence the massive negative angle of the tailplane, and is a
handful to fly - not at all the stable, docile, easy to put down in a rough
field in the dark in enemy territory aeroplane that we imagined it to be.

If anyone else wants a model Lysander, a much better model is the Duncan
Hutson plan, suitable for a .40.

Harry


>I have built the FliteCraft Westlansd Lysander. If you want to see a pic
>of this model please point your browser to
>http://home.eznet.net/~dottney/RCpage.html.
>
>The kit is from England and quite expensive. I was fortunate enough to

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>after landings. The plane is a real pleasure in the air. It handles very
>scale like and might be a bit boring for those looking to bore holes in
>the sky. The OS 90 pulls it with ease.

btighe

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Feb 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/9/99
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Is the Duncan Hutson plan available in the states?

Malcolm Logan

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Feb 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/9/99
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Harry Curzon wrote about the Westland Lysander (snip) :-

> ....... Whilst it does not do fighter style aerobatics, it is no slow


Fiesler Storch either - it is
> quite fast and very agile so you need not feel guilty at throwing it
around
> in tight turns and wingovers. Late last year I had the great pleasure of
meeting Andy Sephton, chief pilot
> at the Shuttleworth Collection, who flies the Lysander. Apparently it is
> very nose heavy, hence the massive negative angle of the tailplane, and
is a
> handful to fly - not at all the stable, docile, easy to put down in a
rough
> field in the dark in enemy territory aeroplane that we imagined it to

be............


Yes, Harry, and it may not be generally known that the Lizzie had a 50 ft
wingspan and was powered by a 870 HP Bristol Mercury radial. That makes
for one big piece of aeroplane.


kjell_...@my-dejanews.com

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Feb 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/9/99
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Proctor are selling his kits in the US, don't know about the plans though.
Give them a call, or call Duncan at +44 1242 572451

Kjell Aanvik
Oslo, Norway

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bti...@ctelcom.net wrote:
> Is the Duncan Hutson plan available in the states?
>
>

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