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John Beck

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Feb 23, 2004, 6:38:29 PM2/23/04
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Hi all,

I posted this on RCU also, so don't be upset if you read it twice!
Here it goes:

A friend just gave me a Midwest "Mach 1" pattern plane that he picked
up at an estate sale approximately 10 years ago. I don't know how
long it had been sitting prior to that.

Basically, it is a .60 size, 62" wingspan pattern ship with Foam Core
Wings and Stab. Unfortunately, there is only 1 sheet of plans with
the fuse on it, and no instruction book or any directions on what to
do with the foam wing, etc. It looks like it was started briefly, as
the left and right fuse sides look assembled (albeit poorly). I'm not
sure if all the parts are there, as I can't find a parts list!

Does anyone know anything about this style of plane, such as its
history, is it a good flyer, any characteristics, info on building,
etc? Also, if anyone has access to the full set of plans and
instruction manual, and is willing to make me a set or sell them, it
would be a huge help!

SKYLANE42

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Feb 24, 2004, 8:43:08 AM2/24/04
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Top pattern plane late 60`s early 70`s. Valuable collectors kit if complete.

CainHD

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Feb 24, 2004, 1:28:05 PM2/24/04
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>Does anyone know anything about this style of plane, such as its
>history, is it a good flyer, any characteristics, info on building,
>etc? Also, if anyone has access to the full set of plans and
>instruction manual, and is willing to make me a set or sell them, it
>would be a huge help!

Designed by Norm Page and flown with much success back in the early '70s.

I may be wrong, but I think RCM did the plans. Worth a check with them.
The airfoil was much slimmer than the standard for those days and the machine
led the way into faster pattern planes.
OTOH, I don't remember mine having any bad slow-speed habits other than those
induced at the control sticks!!!
I remember watching Norm make it look really nice.

Good luck.

HC

Ernie V

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Feb 24, 2004, 8:28:57 PM2/24/04
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I have a NIB kit in my basement. I willdig it out and run a set of plans
for you as soon as I get some time(also the instruction book, if there is
one).
The one I had flew great at almost any speed. There was a lot of carving
and sanding as I remember.
I'll get back to you when I have the materials available.
Ernie
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Tom Minger

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Feb 25, 2004, 12:35:18 AM2/25/04
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"Lot of carving" is almost a misnomer...........you glue together about six
big blocks of balsa and carve away everything that doesn't look like a Mach
1. Having said that, it was/is a great flying airplane and well worth the
effort to build.


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John Beck

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Feb 25, 2004, 6:15:01 PM2/25/04
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Ernie,

Thanks alot for your help! I sent you an offline email...

Thanks to everyone else as well!


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mach 1

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Mar 18, 2006, 4:57:19 PM3/18/06
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Dear friends I will pay for a set of mach one pattern plane plans
design by Norm Page, Thanks Carl


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Mar 21, 2006, 1:49:38 AM3/21/06
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I had the Midwest kit of this model in 73 or 74. The only thing that I
didn't care for was the wood fuselage instead of a fiberglass fuselage. I
couldn't afford the matching Super Tigre G60 Bluehead and Rhom-Air landing
gear, so I sold it. Such was the life of a musician in those days. Most of
my money went to music equipment back then.

Sure wish I had that kit today. It was a really beautiful model.

Ed Cregger


mach 1

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May 5, 2006, 8:46:58 AM5/5/06
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mach 1 Wrote:
> Dear friends I will pay for a set of mach one pattern plane plans
> design by Norm Page, Thanks Carl
I now have the plans for the mach one, and can see why it may not
have stayed in production- so many big blocks of wood, and so much
carving, you would think you had a roast turkey to carve up when you
get it all together, I,m going to build it anyway.

mach 1

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May 5, 2006, 8:49:14 AM5/5/06
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mach 1 Wrote:
> I now have the plans for the mach one, and can see why it may not
> have stayed in production- so many big blocks of wood, and so much
> carving, you would think you had a roast turkey to carve up when you
> get it all together, I,m going to build it anyway. If anyone out
there has a parts list made up I will pay for it. Carl

Ed Cregger

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May 5, 2006, 9:17:09 AM5/5/06
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I enjoy carving the most of any aspect of building models.

The Mach 1 was a beauty. I wish I still had the kit that I never put
together back in the seventies. Now I have the G60 Bluehead that would have
been perfect for it.

Ed Cregger


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Sport Pilot

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May 5, 2006, 3:48:15 PM5/5/06
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Ed Cregger wrote:
> I enjoy carving the most of any aspect of building models.
>
> The Mach 1 was a beauty. I wish I still had the kit that I never put
> together back in the seventies. Now I have the G60 Bluehead that would have
> been perfect for it.
>
> Ed Cregger
>

I kinda enjoy carving also, although carving out the cowl of a Kadet
Senior, or even the back, cowl, and cheek of a Kaos, is far lass
dauting.

One thing I like is that balsa is easy to whittle, easy to sand, and
with an aircraft you can just smooth out your mistakes and most of the
time its not enough to notice, or if it is you can say you "modified"
the design.

Ed Cregger

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May 5, 2006, 9:35:36 PM5/5/06
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In that same vein, I "modified" all of my models. Few ever turned out stock,
even when I tried really hard to duplicate the designer's efforts
accurately.

The Mach I was the true transition aircraft from the old fixed gear
Kaos/Kwik Fli planes to sleek, retract gear equipped models. The Super Kaos
was mostly built with fixed gear, although it was Joe's attempt at jumping
into retract gear.

Ed Cregger


Ken Cashion

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May 8, 2006, 3:32:18 PM5/8/06
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But back then, I didn't have a Dremel with a 1/2" carbide ball or 1/4"
carbide cylinder. Those things can hog out the balsa faster than
anything! With a Dremel and a couple of tools, the big balsa blocks
are shaped in a hurry.

Only, you'd better not do it inside or facing upwind. Use goggles and
mask...even if you've never been at all allergic to balsa dust.

Ken

David Bacque

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May 8, 2006, 3:47:11 PM5/8/06
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> But back then, I didn't have a Dremel with a 1/2" carbide ball or 1/4"
> carbide cylinder. Those things can hog out the balsa faster than
> anything! With a Dremel and a couple of tools, the big balsa blocks
> are shaped in a hurry.
>
> Only, you'd better not do it inside or facing upwind. Use goggles and
> mask...even if you've never been at all allergic to balsa dust.

For Christmas last year I got a new Dremel XPR with the planer attachment.
It's wonderful for shaping. Cuts fast but won't gouge.

Dave


Ken Cashion

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May 9, 2006, 8:46:40 AM5/9/06
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Thanks...won't there be another one of those Christmas things this
year? I will remember this.

Ken

bushpilotx1

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Feb 7, 2008, 9:31:40 AM2/7/08
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I have a nib and a started mach 1 that I am going to sell along with 150
other kits


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MJKolodziej

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Feb 7, 2008, 12:15:06 PM2/7/08
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lets see a list.
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Ed Cregger

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Thanks.


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vvcunene

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Mar 4, 2010, 1:24:00 AM3/4/10
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I�m just flying a Mach 1 from Aviomodelli, the same as Midwest Mach one
balsa wood from Midwest but with tappered foam wings and rear control
surfaces and ABS plastic fuselage, with a Rossi .60 and tuned pipe. Is
possible that I�ve the plans of
Mach one from Midwest but I need time to find out it in my old...very
old archive plans. My e-mail is: vvcu...@yahoo.es. Please contact me
in two weeks for confirm you if I really have these plans. If yes, you
will paid only the fees of shipment. Regards


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bushpilotx1

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Mar 4, 2010, 2:13:49 AM3/4/10
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I have a midwest mach 1 started never finished with an extra set of
wings if anyone is interested, geoff


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Mar 4, 2010, 12:18:10 PM3/4/10
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On Mar 3, 11:13 pm, bushpilotx1 <bushpilotx1.47a...@rcgroups.com>
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> I have a midwest mach 1 started never finished with an extra set of
> wings if anyone is interested, geoff

Hi Bushpilotx1.
I may be interested. Where are you located? How far along is it? What
condition. How much etc. etc.
-Rob-

gavoss

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Apr 11, 2010, 12:52:27 PM4/11/10
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I'd like to get a kit myself. Please send condition and price to
gav...@swbell.net


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Vance Howard

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Apr 11, 2010, 2:32:30 PM4/11/10
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:52:27 -0500, gavoss wrote:

> I'd like to get a kit myself. Please send condition and price to
> gav...@swbell.net

Who are you replying to? I wish rcgroupers would hit the reply button to
the post they are replying to, that way the relevant text gets copied
into their post.

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Dave Plumpe

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Apr 13, 2010, 8:46:55 AM4/13/10
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Can't help you with the Midwest kit, but if you want to build one, it was
originally a construction article by Norm Page in June, 1973, Model Airplane
News. Check with MAN.

Google for 'mach 1 norm page' and 'mach i norm page'. I saw a short kit
listed.

-Dave

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