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SALEM MA

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Nov 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/4/98
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Wondering which 1/4 scale Cub is a better kit, the kit by Balsa USA, or the one
from SIG ?....... or one from any other manufacturer ? Also wondering about
the 60 size kit from Great Planes (its size appears to be close to 1/4 scale).
Thanks. Bob

John Lever

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Nov 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/4/98
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Hi Bob,

Both Balsa USA's and Sig's kits are builders kits. I have personally built
and flown the Sig. It takes about 50 times longer to build the plane than I
ever anticipate flying it. With a true 1/4 scale and 105" wing, it dwarfs
the .60 size cub from GP, even if it may "appear" to be 1/4 scale.

John

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Topgun1342

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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Bob,
If your going to build a 1/4 scale Cub, I would suggest the Sig kit. You
get a much more conclusive set of drawings and assembly workbook with the Sig
kit. I have built several Balsa USA kits,including the 1/3 scale version of
the Cub and am sure you would enjoy building the Sig kit much more than the
Balsa USA version.


Michael Keeven

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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I would definitely warn you away from the Great Planes Piper Cub 60. I just
completed one. The specs on it say it should weight between 9.5 to 12 lbs. My
airframe, less engine weighed 13.95 lbs. I had intended to put on a Maloney 100
gasoline engine but at 3.8 lbs just for the engine there is no way it would fly the
plane. When done, all up weight turned out to be 17.75 lbs. I can account for
maybe an extra pound with the stuff I added like beefing up the wing center section
to make it a two peice wing but theres no way it should weigh that much. I have
talked to another builder who is about 75% complete and he says the same thing. He
thought he was being sarcastic when he said the wing must weigh 5 pounds but mine
does in fact weigh 4.9 lbs for the wing and struts. I would not recommend this
kit.

DB

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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SALEM MA wrote in message <19981104171255...@ng108.aol.com>...
>
>Wondering which 1/4 scale Cub is a better kit, the kit by Balsa USA, or the
one
>from SIG ?....... or one from any other manufacturer ? Also wondering
about
>the 60 size kit from Great Planes (its size appears to be close to 1/4
scale).
>Thanks. Bob

I am currently building the Sig 1/4 scale Cub. This is my first real kit
after 1 arf
and minor repairs on another aircraft. Since it is my first building
experience, I
am taking my time but I have found the instructions, photos, and plans to be
very
well done and complete.

As far as Balsa USA is concerned, I ordered their Piper Cub L-4 plans
(military version)
to use as reference in converting my Sig to the L-4 version. I don't know
what comes
with the Balsa USA J-3 kit, but the L-4 plans were not as clearly drawn as
the Sig plans.
The instruction "book" was about 10 pages of typed instructions (no
pictures) stapled in the
left hand corner. On Balsa USAs behalf I believe the L-4 plans are to be
used with their
J-3 kit to convert it, so that may explain the lack of pictures / details.

BTW, the Balsa USA 1/4 scale Cub is not exactly the same size as the Sig
version. I haven't
had time to get the actual specs on the Cub to see what sizes that 1/4 scale
should be,
but Balsa's cub has a 108" wingspan while Sigs has 105". The GP .60 size
cub has around
an 80" wingspan I believe so it is not 1/4 scale.

Dan

RC4J

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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I built the GP Cub 60. It weighs 12.5 lbs. Saito 90, 21st Century fabric
covering. The plane is a little too heavy, although it flies great. I've got
about 6 sticks of stick on weights on the firewall and engine mount. Probably
could use lighter wood on tail surfaces to correct this problem. Like I said,
though, it flies great!

Pete Shifflett

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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In article <19981104171255...@ng108.aol.com>, sal...@aol.com
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>
>
>Wondering which 1/4 scale Cub is a better kit, the kit by Balsa USA, or the
one
>from SIG ?....... or one from any other manufacturer ? Also wondering about
>the 60 size kit from Great Planes (its size appears to be close to 1/4 scale).
>Thanks. Bob
I have built both of these kits. The SIG is right-on scale while the Balsa USA
one is not quite scale both in size and looks. My Sig weighs in at 12.5 lbs and
I have a Saito 1.20 in it. I have the full size Cub here near my house that I
modeled mine after. The measurements on the Sig Cub are exactly 1/4th that of
the full scale one. I have modified it to a solid center section so it looks
scale with root cuffs to cover the wing attachment.I don't like the way Sig
attaches the wing. I think the Sig Cub flys a bit more on the scale side as it
is about 4 lbs lighter than the BalsaUSA Cub. The Sig kit was a little more
involved in the building, but that may have been my fault with the wing mods.


Jim Nunnallee

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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Slmrae wrote:
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> Do you think a 1/4th Scale Cub would be a good kit for a first building kit.

NO! It's not impossible but probably not wise. Assuming you've got a
reasonable amount of flying experience, try something like a Sig
4-Star. It comes in 40, 60, and 120 size. All three are excellent kits
using fairly simple, straightforward building techniques. The plane is
also an excellent flyer.

Jim Nunnallee
Ft. Meade, FL


John Lever

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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Without a doubt, NO!

WAY TOO MANY PIECES!

John

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Slmrae

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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Dr1Driver

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
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>Do you think a 1/4th Scale Cub would be a good kit for a first building kit.

God, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sig Cubs are VERY scale builder's kits and NOT for the
beginner, or even the 3rd or 4th plane. For your first kit, I'd recommend
something like the Goldberg Eagle or the Great Planes PT40.
Dr.1 Driver
(the pilot formerly known as Gerald43)
"There's a Hun in the sun!"

JS

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Nov 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/17/98
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I have to check mine, but I suppose about 5-6 kg inclusive engine.
Did you use 10" nails? ;-)

Jens


On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 08:21:06 -0800, Michael Keeven
<MKE...@postoffice.pacbell.net> wrote:

>I would definitely warn you away from the Great Planes Piper Cub 60. I just
>completed one. The specs on it say it should weight between 9.5 to 12 lbs. My
>airframe, less engine weighed 13.95 lbs. I had intended to put on a Maloney 100

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