Cline Regulators?
Scott Yeo
try one on a OS 240 twin.
Thanks Guys
Beam me up Scotty
Gord Schindler
807 Alpha Rd. Box 44
Alpha, Ohio 45301
Ph: 937-426-4167 Fax 937-426-7711
They also have an E-mail address but I can't find it.
Regards,
Gord Schindler
Toronto, Ontario
Canada
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Chris Hobbs
>
> Does anyone know where I can find info on the Cline Regulators.
Uh oh. Cline regulator? I can't imagine Kevin will like that idea
much! ;-)
Chris (I can't resist a pun) Hobbs
GRais
>>
>> Does anyone know where I can find info on the Cline Regulators.
>
S&H.
Scott.
Warren Massey
>In <71nef6$8...@enews2.newsguy.com>, "Scott Yeo" <y...@msys.net> writes:
>>Does anyone know where I can find info on the Cline Regulators. I want to
>>try one on a OS 240 twin.
The following comment about the Cline regulator and larger engines was made
at URL:
http://www.azstarnet.com/~cass/giles.htm
"Fuel System
We installed a Perry VP-30 pump to provide consistent fuel pressure. We
tried a Cline regulator first, but the Moki 1.20 was starving for fuel (a
problem others have also had with the Cline on the larger engines).
Continual problems with the fuel delivery system forced us to move the tank
forward and use only muffler pressure. For the moment we feel it is better
to work under the "KISS" principle. The VP-30 may be a usable system once
the bugs are worked out."
Before you buy you may want to follow up on this...
GRais
>We installed a Perry VP-30 pump to provide consistent fuel pressure. We
>tried a Cline regulator first, but the Moki 1.20 was starving for fuel (a
>problem others have also had with the Cline on the larger engines).
>Continual problems with the fuel delivery system forced us to move the tank
>forward and use only muffler pressure. For the moment we feel it is better
>to work under the "KISS" principle. The VP-30 may be a usable system once
>the bugs are worked out."
>
>Before you buy you may want to follow up on this...
>
>
regulator on a Saito R-450. The 50oz fuel tank is back on the CG!! Now this
beast draws about 3-4 oz. a minute at full power and he has had no problems
with fuel flow useing muffler pressure and the Cline. Go figure. Scott.
>
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Jim White
>
>>In <71nef6$8...@enews2.newsguy.com>, "Scott Yeo" <y...@msys.net> writes:
>>>Does anyone know where I can find info on the Cline Regulators. I want to
>>>try one on a OS 240 twin.
>
>
>The following comment about the Cline regulator and larger engines was made
>at URL:
>http://www.azstarnet.com/~cass/giles.htm
>
>"Fuel System
>We installed a Perry VP-30 pump to provide consistent fuel pressure. We
>tried a Cline regulator first, but the Moki 1.20 was starving for fuel (a
>problem others have also had with the Cline on the larger engines).
>Continual problems with the fuel delivery system forced us to move the tank
>forward and use only muffler pressure. For the moment we feel it is better
>to work under the "KISS" principle. The VP-30 may be a usable system once
>the bugs are worked out."
>
>Before you buy you may want to follow up on this...
>
>
interesting, since the regulator used in the kline comes from a Walbro
carb, as used on the various giant scale gas engines..... maybe his
tubing was too small.....
Jim White
AMA 2466
WB2WOY
WPMPA/BCF/PFC
SouthShoreSoftware
Treasure Island, FL
Garnet Brace
>Scott Yeo wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know where I can find info on the Cline Regulators.
>
I just bought one - highly recommended by the guy at the shop whom
I resepect and trust. Haven't tried it yet but if you would like
info from the instruction sheet - write me.
--
.... Garnet
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W. J. Vail
to know how the works (roughly). It uses crankcase pressure to pressurize
the fuel tank. The amount of pressure varies with engine and engine rpm but
is not a factor in fuel metering. It is quit a bit (enough to deliver fuel
2-3 feet up a fuel line). This pressurized fuel is then delivered to the
regulator and here is the important part ... the regulator is set such that
the engine thinks it is DRAWING fuel about 2 inches. Does that mean if you
remove the fuel line from the fuel nipple at the carb while the tank is
under pressure no fuel comes out (nothing is drawing it)? It sure does.
Does it also mean that if my carb is set up for muffler pressure and expects
fuel to be feed to it under pressure that I will have to OPEN the high speed
needle vise close it even though the fuel in the tank is under pressure?
Yep!
The stories I here of Cline regulators not being able to supply enough fuel
are a little misinformed. It would be more accurate to say the engine is
not able to draw enough fuel. The regulator will work on very large
engines. It will also work on very small engines (.010).
Remember it is a regulator and not a pump.
Garnet Brace wrote in message <71thvv$i9l$1...@maggie.ionsys.com>...
Warren Massey
In <71nef6$8...@enews2.newsguy.com>, "Scott Yeo" <y...@msys.net> writes:
>Does anyone know where I can find info on the Cline Regulators. I want to
>try one on a OS 240 twin.
There is a Cline web site!
Some of the links have trouble but the pcfs links on this page seem to work
for me today...
http://www.billsroom.com/pcfs/tableof.htm
http://www.billsroom.com/pcfs/pcfs.htm
http://www.billsroom.com/pcfs/pcfstips.htm
ces...@my-dejanews.com
jimw...@ij.net (Jim White) wrote:
> "Warren Massey" <Mas...@LLNL.Gov> wrote:
>
> >
> >>In <71nef6$8...@enews2.newsguy.com>, "Scott Yeo" <y...@msys.net> writes:
> >>>Does anyone know where I can find info on the Cline Regulators. I want to
> >>>try one on a OS 240 twin.
> >
> >
> >at URL:
> >http://www.azstarnet.com/~cass/giles.htm
> >
> >"Fuel System
> >We installed a Perry VP-30 pump to provide consistent fuel pressure. We
> >tried a Cline regulator first, but the Moki 1.20 was starving for fuel (a
> >problem others have also had with the Cline on the larger engines).
> >Continual problems with the fuel delivery system forced us to move the tank
> >forward and use only muffler pressure. For the moment we feel it is better
> >to work under the "KISS" principle. The VP-30 may be a usable system once
> >the bugs are worked out."
> >
> >Before you buy you may want to follow up on this...
> >
> >
>
> interesting, since the regulator used in the kline comes from a Walbro
> carb, as used on the various giant scale gas engines..... maybe his
> tubing was too small.....
>
> Jim White
> AMA 2466
> WB2WOY
> WPMPA/BCF/PFC
> SouthShoreSoftware
> Treasure Island, FL
>
For the record, we used large fuel tubing on the Cline installation. Neither
it nor the VP-30 worked satisfactorily.
The G202 is now down for some minor crash repair after the Moki quit and we
couldn't make it back to the field. We have run out of ideas on correcting the
Moki problems. I have pulled the engine out and have sent it to Jim Gerard to
see if he can solve the problems.
The web site article you reference is still under construction. Since we have
still had problems with the Moki AFTER removing the VP-30 and the Cline unit
they may not be the culprit. I will be modifying the wed site article once the
problem is identified and corrected.
--
Steve Cass
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BBrastad
>are a little misinformed.
Not really. Some time ago, in RCM, Clarence Lee tested this gadget and pointed
out that the Cline device operated well on engines with small venturis, but not
on ones with large ones over about 0.3 inches, as I remembere.
The reason is that in an engine with a large venturi, not enough suction is
developed to activate the diaphragm in the regulator. The result is that you
can't get the engine to run rich enough. I know, I tried this gadget on a
couple of Super Tigre X-61 s and had exactly that problem. I would screw the
needle valve all the way out, still not rich enough.
Warren Massey
>Does anyone know where I can find info on the Cline Regulators. I want to
>try one on a OS 240 twin.
There is a Cline web site!