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Ton C. Jaspers

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Jan 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/9/00
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I just got a lot of small pots with different colors of Tamya acrylic
paint from our club auction. These paints seem great to do a nice
paint job of the fuselage. The former owner ensured me they will hold
on OraCover and most other brands of Cover material. However, he could
not answer me the following:

Are these paints fuel proof?
If not can they be covered by clear polyurethane paint?

TIA,
Ton


Bill Archibald

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Jan 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/9/00
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Ton,

I assume by acrylic, it is an acrylic latex (unless there a new dog on the
block that hasn't nipped at my heels yet). I have never seen a latex that
is alcohol resistant.(as you know methyl alcohol is in our fuel)

But do a small test to be sure.

Polyurethane will protect. ( I have never had the opportunity to try/test
water based polyurethane....probably never will get the inclination,
either)

I find Fabulon (floor poly) is one of the toughest (and most expensive)

-bill

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Sean McFarlane

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Jan 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/9/00
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No way are these fuel proof. They are designed for plastic kit sets.
If you let the paint cure for a good couple of days they will take poly
clear coat, but build it up slowly misting on the coats of poly.

Cheers,
Sean.

A.T.

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Jan 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/9/00
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The Tamiya acrylic paint is resin based - not water - brushes will clean
in water after initial reactions against the water. Use isopropyl alcohol
or the proper Tamiya acrylic thinners if spraying. This paint is NOT FUEL
PROOF unless built up in 2 light coats and left to dry for at least 24
hours between coats.then say 48 before fuel [max say 5% nitro - no
acetone] hits it - touched up small area of K&B epoxy on Bucker at scale
rally and when wiping oil off model after flight smeared red over a large
white area #@& much paper/alcohol and mumbling to correct. However, the
good news s that Tamiya does make a very good fuel proofer for use with
these and polycarbonate paints used on the bodies of the gas cars etc. (#
X26) Generally one coat of proofer is sufficient - good on most other
paints also.
regards
Alan T.

zb...@wt.net

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Jan 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/9/00
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Bill Archibald wrote:
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> Ton,
>
> I assume by acrylic, it is an acrylic latex (unless there a new dog on the
> block that hasn't nipped at my heels yet).

Bill, DuPont ($$) markets a water based automotive paint that, once it
dries is impervious to most solvents.

Zbend

Ken Cashion

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Jan 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/9/00
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2000 07:53:52 GMT, t...@xs4all.nl (Ton C. Jaspers)
wrote:

>I just got a lot of small pots with different colors of Tamya acrylic
>paint from our club auction. These paints seem great to do a nice
>paint job of the fuselage. The former owner ensured me they will hold
>on OraCover and most other brands of Cover material. However, he could
>not answer me the following:
>
>Are these paints fuel proof?
>If not can they be covered by clear polyurethane paint?

I routinely use acrylic paint as comes in tubes from any arts
supply store -- or Wal-Mart, etc. (mixed and/or thinned with water).
In some cases, I put this directly onto raw balsa as fuselage
sides and sheet empennage.
Additionally, I use it over foam. I have never tried them on
any film but they work OK on plastics if the plastic is given some
"tooth" by sanding and dusting before painting.
When dry, they are good against the oils that blow out of an
engine, but this goop is hard to clean off the paint. They are not
good against fuel spillage from the can or blow back from a fuel tank.
Sears had a spray polyurethance that could be misted over the
acrylic so that the acrylic would be fuel proofed and just as
importantly, permit the paint job to be cleaned well.
I have tested other brands and some significantly damaged the
surface of a styrofoam test cup, some only changed the surface if I
piled the paint on, and some gave just a hint of surface change.
I used the matte spray because I don't care for glossy looking
models.
But always test on a peice of foam or balsa before you spray
or daub your new pride and joy.
I have done perhaps eight models in this manner -- some models
have been around (and in use) for a decade or more.


Cheers -- Ken Cashion
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Bill Archibald

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Jan 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/9/00
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Zbend,

I understand that there are water based automotive paints. I've oft
wondered what they are classified as (water based lacquers??....ARE they a
hybrid acrylic??)

Rustoleum makes "Rust Reformer" that is solvable in water. Paint it on the
nastiest rusty surfaces and it catalyses (I think) to a black surface that
will hold alkyd, shellac, lacquer, and most any other coating.

I also wonder if the water based polyurethanes are fuel proof.


so many products.....so many tests......so few of me.

-bill

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zb...@wt.net

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Jan 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/10/00
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Bill Archibald wrote:
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> Zbend,
>
> I understand that there are water based automotive paints. I've oft
> wondered what they are classified as (water based lacquers??....ARE they a
> hybrid acrylic??)

Not for sure, but I belive that they are water based, base coat/clear
coat polyurethane

Zbend

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JohnCCard

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Jan 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/11/00
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>I just got a lot of small pots with different colors of Tamya acrylic
>paint from our club auction. These paints seem great to do a nice
>paint job of the fuselage. The former owner ensured me they will hold
>on OraCover and most other brands of Cover material. However, he could
>not answer me the following:
>
>Are these paints fuel proof?
>If not can they be covered by clear polyurethane paint?
>
>TIA,
>Ton


I don't know about Tamiya, but I've used Testors Model Master acrylic with good
results. After I was finished painting all of the markings, I went over it
with Cheveron Perfect Paint flat clear and it is holding up fine. On another
plane, I used Lustrekote clear as a top coat and it was OK as well. This was
over a glass and painted surface however, not an iron on covering.
These acrylic paints are great for color selection, and the ability to purchase
small quantities at reasonable prices, and easy airbrush cleanup.

John

Ton C. Jaspers

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Jan 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/15/00
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Just tried the paint on my Pilot figure:

He looks like a man with a strong will who has made it in life, and
can now finally aford his own Cessna. I have gave hime a Big
moustache so he resemples a WO1 RAF wing commander. (anyone
ot their read Biggles as a kid?)

I guess he must have tried to become an airforce pilot long ago.
Guessing by his eyes he has been refused by the airforce for
medical reasons. While he was inspecting the instrument panel with
his left eye, his right eye was inspecting his left pant pocket.

I made him a VHF headset (from a paper clip and some scrap rubber)
He waers a Navy blue Rugby shirt over a stainless white shirt. The
ensamble is completed with a white silk shawl.

I just introduced him to his trainer plane, by the the looks on his
face i guess he was thinking: "lets beat this bug dead, I really
belong in an Extra 300". Anyway, I promised him a better plane
if he lands this one solo without breaking. If not, I shall ask
my daugter if she will lend me her hamster.

Ton


"A.T." <at...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

>The Tamiya acrylic paint is resin based - not water - brushes will clean
>in water after initial reactions against the water. Use isopropyl alcohol
>or the proper Tamiya acrylic thinners if spraying. This paint is NOT FUEL
>PROOF unless built up in 2 light coats and left to dry for at least 24
>hours between coats.then say 48 before fuel [max say 5% nitro - no
>acetone] hits it - touched up small area of K&B epoxy on Bucker at scale
>rally and when wiping oil off model after flight smeared red over a large
>white area #@& much paper/alcohol and mumbling to correct. However, the
>good news s that Tamiya does make a very good fuel proofer for use with
>these and polycarbonate paints used on the bodies of the gas cars etc. (#
>X26) Generally one coat of proofer is sufficient - good on most other
>paints also.
>regards
>Alan T.

Ken Cashion

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On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 10:13:09 GMT, t...@xs4all.nl (Ton C. Jaspers)
wrote:

>Just tried the paint on my Pilot figure:


>
>He looks like a man with a strong will who has made it in life, and
>can now finally aford his own Cessna. I have gave hime a Big
>moustache so he resemples a WO1 RAF wing commander. (anyone
>ot their read Biggles as a kid?)

<snip>

For many scales of semi-scale pilots, shoe strings look good
for parachute and seat harnesses and a short section of wrapped guitar
string is great for D-handle cable.
The same strings are good for different faux engine details,
as well.
And while we are on the subject, old strings of various
instruments are good for all kinds of hobby-shop applications. If you
are not a musician, perhaps you know one who will give you all his old
strings.

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