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what bulb for search light car 6520?

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vintagegamer

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Nov 30, 2007, 7:43:17 AM11/30/07
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Can someone tell me the part # of the bulb for the Lionel search light
car #6520? I have the cover plate and the spring is in there, I just
need to know what bulb it takes. Thanks!

VG
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vintagegamer

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Nov 30, 2007, 11:02:18 AM11/30/07
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On Nov 30, 8:50 am, Whodun...@earthlink.net wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:43:17 -0800 (PST), vintagegamer <jmb...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> >Can someone tell me the part # of the bulb for the Lionel search light
> >car #6520? I have the cover plate and the spring is in there, I just
> >need to know what bulb it takes. Thanks!
>
> #363...12-16v bayonet, clear.

Thank you- does it sound like all of the parts are present for my
car? Just a spring and the coverplate/lens on the searchlight? Just
making sure I don't need to buy/order anything else.

VG

Geezer

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Nov 30, 2007, 11:25:57 AM11/30/07
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"vintagegamer" <jmb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Check out the Lionel service manual diagram at

http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/opcar/oc3520p2.pdf

In addition to the spring (assuming you're referring to the one under the
bulb) there should be an insulating fiber washer with a rivet in the center
to which the power lead to the center contact on the bulb base is attached.
Geezer


Geezer

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Nov 30, 2007, 11:35:06 AM11/30/07
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"Geezer" <gquNOS...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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OOPs!! Wrong link. All Olsen's has for the 6520 is the parts list at

http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/opcar/oc6520.pdf

but the same washer / spring / wire arrangement is used inside the
searchlight case on the 6520.

Sorry for the mix up. Geezer


vintagegamer

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Nov 30, 2007, 2:15:58 PM11/30/07
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On Nov 30, 11:35 am, "Geezer" <gquNOSPAM...@adelphia.net> wrote:
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Thanks guys- I think everything is present on mine except the bulb-
the washers etc appear to be in the base, and the spring I was
referring to seems to sit in the "head" section to help hold the bulb
in place. I'll try to hit the hobby shop on the way home and grab one
of the bulbs to test it with. Thanks!

VG
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Len

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Nov 30, 2007, 6:42:05 PM11/30/07
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"vintagegamer" <jmb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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If your hobby shop doesn't have them, you can order direct from
Lionel's web page.

Lionel's current part number is: 600-0363-300

They show it as, "bulb, 14V, clear", in the parts listing, but
the markings on the bulb itself show it's a #363 bulb.

Len

vintagegamer

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Nov 30, 2007, 6:52:01 PM11/30/07
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I told the guy at the hobby shop what I needed, and he gave me a 12v
clear- I tried it when I got home, and it doesn't light, but the car
has been in storage for so long I don't know if it's the bulb or the
car. I cleaned the roller on the bottom of the car and nothing
happened.

Is the bulb just supposed to sit in its socket? Or is it a setup
where you're supposed to put it in and twist it? I put it in the
socket and it seems a little small, and I couldn't twist it but don't
know if it's supposed to turn or not. And of course I told the guy
the part # was 363 and he looked at me like I was an alien. I hate
the local shop.

VG

David Nebenzahl

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Dec 1, 2007, 12:21:02 AM12/1/07
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On 11/30/2007 3:52 PM vintagegamer spake thus:

> Is the bulb just supposed to sit in its socket? Or is it a setup
> where you're supposed to put it in and twist it? I put it in the
> socket and it seems a little small, and I couldn't twist it but don't
> know if it's supposed to turn or not.

"Bayonet" = push in & turn. Won't make contact othewise.

Dale Carlson

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Dec 1, 2007, 7:06:47 AM12/1/07
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:52:01 -0800 (PST), vintagegamer
<jmb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I told the guy at the hobby shop what I needed, and he gave me a 12v
>clear- I tried it when I got home, and it doesn't light, but the car
>has been in storage for so long I don't know if it's the bulb or the
>car. I cleaned the roller on the bottom of the car and nothing
>happened.
>

>Is the bulb just supposed to sit in its socket? Or is it a setup
>where you're supposed to put it in and twist it? I put it in the
>socket and it seems a little small, and I couldn't twist it but don't

>know if it's supposed to turn or not. And of course I told the guy
>the part # was 363 and he looked at me like I was an alien. I hate
>the local shop.

You push the bulb down to pretty much completely compress the
spring, then turn it (clockwise, IIRC) so the pins go into slots in
the socket. Slight up or down adjustments may be needed to
find the slots.

Dale


vintagegamer

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Dec 1, 2007, 8:29:08 PM12/1/07
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So I went to the Greenberg show today, found the 363 bulb, brought it
home, put it in the car, still can't get it to turn in place for
whatever reason. I also noticed that ht the wire on the bottom that
goes to the roller is broken off. I think I'll focus on getting the
engine back up and running and leave this project for next
Christmas!! Thanks to all for the help.

VG
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Len

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Dec 2, 2007, 10:29:04 PM12/2/07
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"vintagegamer" <jmb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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One other minor point...the tips of the bayonet bulbs Lionel used
in the 50's & early 60's were slightly shorther than the modern
versions of the same bulbs. It sometimes helps to use an emery
board or fine flat file to take a bit of metal off the silver
colored tip of the modern bulbs. In a few cases of I've had to
take the tip down almost half it's thickness to get the bulb to
seat correctly.

Also, the 6520 search light car is a bit different than the other
search light cars Lionel has done over the years. It has an
armature under the car that can be pulled down using the
uncoupling magnet of a remote control uncoupling track. This
activates a switch that turns the light on or off each time the
armature is activated.

The wiring on these cars is fairly straight forward to fix if you
have a 30 or 35 watt soldering iron and some rosin core solder.

Len

vintagegamer

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Dec 3, 2007, 4:15:30 PM12/3/07
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Thanks for the info, Len- this car definitely has the armature under
the generator. I really need to learn how to solder. The sad part is
I can MIG weld, but never quite got down the soldering skill!

VG

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