Ceramcoat on sale; what colors should I stock up on?
Kent Taylor
new to model railroading and am preparing to build a layout. I have seen recommendations for
Ceramcoat on r.m.r and was wondering what colors you folks find that you use most often.
Thanks.
Kent Taylor
Pete
structure colors, black, white, red, yellow, raw and burnt sienna, butnt
umber, antique gold, silver. At 2 for a buck pick up anything you might use
for trim colors on a structure.
Good luck,
Pete
Kent Taylor wrote in message ...
Trainman
Especially useful colors I like are "Sandstone" (makes terrific concrete
color) and "Charcoal" (for blacktop streets, better than full black)
Greens I like the lighter colors, and any browns, umbers, siennas, etc. are
very useful.
Don
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john a dalton
>Load up on any the greens, browns and greys.
>
>Especially useful colors I like are "Sandstone" (makes terrific concrete
>color) and "Charcoal" (for blacktop streets, better than full black)
>Greens I like the lighter colors, and any browns, umbers, siennas, etc. are
>very useful.
>Don
>Don Dellmann
....."Country Gray" is a great color.....these MIX well, too....so you
can make odd colors to suit your scheme.....high-quality paints....
....i discovered these, and the "Plaid"-brand paints "("Apple Barrel"
colors), at Wallymart 2 years ago, and posted it here on RMR....
those, and the styrene "For Sale" signs, really took off....pretty
soon, EVERYBODY was using them, and passing on the hint.....
....you get a LOT of paint for very little money....certainly as good
as (or better than) the model railroad paints....and consistent
colors.....not only that, but they're made here in Georgia by very
nice people.... :))
....big john..... :))
Trainman
painting scenery, I take half a dozen, squirt a shot of a different color
into each one, with a cheap artist's brush and a cup of water.
Dip the brush in the paint, THEN in the water, then spread it around on the
layout, then another color, then the water, then another color, then more
water, them maybe straight color on the layout, then just water on the
layout, just smear everything around and mix everything up at random, you'd
be surprised how good it looks even before you put down your ground cover.
Don
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john a dalton
>I save the plastic tops from gallon milk jugs, water jugs etc. When I'm
>painting scenery, I take half a dozen, squirt a shot of a different color
>into each one, with a cheap artist's brush and a cup of water.
>
>Dip the brush in the paint, THEN in the water, then spread it around on the
>layout, then another color, then the water, then another color, then more
>water, them maybe straight color on the layout, then just water on the
>layout, just smear everything around and mix everything up at random, you'd
>be surprised how good it looks even before you put down your ground cover.
>
>Don
>Don Dellmann
....."great minds run on the same track".....another bottle-cap
collector !!!.....i now have about 1630 plastic "lids"....i use'em
just like Don.....for painting small things....it's a form of
recycling, because the recyclers here DON'T WANT the bottle and jug
caps....it messes up their machinery they use to recycle "clear
plastic" (distilled water and milk jugs)....i was using the lids off
spray cans UNTIL i discovered each one has a tiny vent hole in the
top....so, i now use those for gasoline and chemical storage tanks on
the layout.....paint'em up like they've erupted chemicals all over the
place, and you get to use the 48 EMS vehicles you bought for $2 for a
box of 6 assorted.....all you need are some little green lites from
old keyboards (free stuff) and it really looks eerie with the lites
out !!!!....."EMOIGENCY, EMOIGENCY, EVERYONE TO GET FROM
STREET".....remember that line from "The Russians Are Coming" ?.....
.....notice none of this cost anything.....even the paint's free, if
you use old paint with "things" in it....just slop it on your chemical
spill.....("what all's in that thar tank thar ?....."i dunno, but my
truck just dis-pa-peered")..... :))
.....big john..... :))
PJL
Kent Taylor wrote:
>
> A.C. Moore, a craft store chain, has Ceramcoat acrylic paint on sale until Nov 22 at 2 for $1. I am
There's no rush. They'll be on sale again in a few weeks.
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Kent Taylor
at this price before (it may have been on sale, but I never saw it). Another fellow was buying a
bunch while I was at AC Moore. He said that he buys it regularly and has never seen the price this
low. AC Moore's regular price for 2oz bottles is $.99 and Wal-Mart's regular price is $.77 in our
area (Southern Tier of New York).
Thanks for alerting me to the possibility of regular sale prices. I'll certainly keep my eyes open
for them.
Kent Taylor
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john a dalton
>I hope that you are right because I'll want to buy more. However I have never seen it at AC Moore
>at this price before (it may have been on sale, but I never saw it). Another fellow was buying a
>bunch while I was at AC Moore. He said that he buys it regularly and has never seen the price this
>low. AC Moore's regular price for 2oz bottles is $.99 and Wal-Mart's regular price is $.77 in our
>area (Southern Tier of New York).
>
>Thanks for alerting me to the possibility of regular sale prices. I'll certainly keep my eyes open
>for them.
>
>Kent Taylor
....i just discovered this website....Woodcrafter.com.....it has all
the Delta Ceramcoat Paints listed....including all the Fleshtones
(there's even a Santa Clause's Face)....they offer the 2-oz bottles
AND the 8-oz bottles, as well as gallons (of some colors)..... :))
....i mention this site just for the list of colors....note that the
prices shown are mfgr list.....there ARE small discounts for small
bulk purchases.... :))
....hope this helps..... big john...... :))
john a dalton
>I hope that you are right because I'll want to buy more. However I have never seen it at AC Moore
>at this price before (it may have been on sale, but I never saw it). Another fellow was buying a
>bunch while I was at AC Moore. He said that he buys it regularly and has never seen the price this
>low. AC Moore's regular price for 2oz bottles is $.99 and Wal-Mart's regular price is $.77 in our
>area (Southern Tier of New York).
>
>Thanks for alerting me to the possibility of regular sale prices. I'll certainly keep my eyes open
>for them.
>
>Kent Taylor
....i just discovered this website....Woodcrafter.com.....it has all
the Delta Ceramcoat Paints listed....including all the Fleshtones
(there's even a Santa Clause's Face)....they offer the 2-oz bottles
AND the 8-oz bottles, as well as gallons (of some colors)..... :))
....i mention this site just for the list of colors....note that the
prices shown are mfgr list.....there ARE small discounts for small
bulk purchases.... :))
....hope this helps..... big john...... :))
.....OOOPS !!!.....forgot the address of the website.....
http://www.woodcrafter.com/mall/mall_paints_deltaceramcoatfleshpaint.asp
....and, while we're at it, here's another site with the full line of
Delta Ceramcoat Paints....and, boy, are there a BUNCH !!!.....
http://www.creativeoutletcrafts.com/shopusa/att1026.htm
....again, hope this helps..... big john.... :))
Kent Taylor
Kent Taylor
Rusty Keeney
<dom.de...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>I save the plastic tops from gallon milk jugs, water jugs etc. When I'm
>painting scenery, I take half a dozen, squirt a shot of a different color
>into each one, with a cheap artist's brush and a cup of water.
>
>Dip the brush in the paint, THEN in the water, then spread it around on the
>layout, then another color, then the water, then another color, then more
>water, them maybe straight color on the layout, then just water on the
>layout, just smear everything around and mix everything up at random, you'd
>be surprised how good it looks even before you put down your ground cover.
>
>Don
>
Plastic egg cartons are useful too.
Michael McIntyre
awhile, and I still don't know what's so special about these
particular paints.
What are they especially good for?
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john a dalton
>OK, I'll confess my ignorance... I've been watching this thread for
>awhile, and I still don't know what's so special about these
>particular paints.
>
>What are they especially good for?
>---
>D. Michael McIntyre
.....if you go buy the small bottles of water-based acrylic model
railroad paints in a hobby shop, it costs a certain amount per
bottle....and the bottles are fairly small.....so you go to the
Wallymart, back in "Crafts", and here's this very-high quality paint
for $0.87 a bottle, and the bottle is 2x as large.....and there are
about 200-300 colors to choose from.....so you buy, say, 40 bottles
(like Kent Taylor just did) and you go home and find out that not only
is this as good as (or better than) the model railroad paints, but you
can mix different colors to your heart's content (cause it's all the
same quality and age).....it air-brushes beautifully at 70% paint -
30% distilled water, at 30 psi in a 25-yr old Paasche....or it brushes
beautifully (self-leveling, no brush marks)..... :))
....so you spread the word....how to model on a budget, and get great
results....no harm intended toward hobby shops...."you sell what you
got"....but hobby shops don't carry low-profit stuff.....they can't in
this day and age.....the rent's too high....the owner has to eat....i
would imagine most hobby shops would just as soon do away with
stocking paints anyway....the 2 shops i go to are always complaining
about folks stealing paint because of the "small pocket-size"....and
the paint racks are alway "sold out" anyway..... :))
....i've used the paint on Athearn box cars, RDC's, DPM buildings,
Atlas kits, AHM kits, IHC kits, Rivarossi passenger car touch-up, and
background panels, P2K engines, kit-bashed styrene buildings with DPM
modular faces, and a myriad of other stuff....Sweetie has used my
paints to touch up her dolls, her pottery, chipped tile, and her
dashboard scratches..... :))
.....i hope this helps everybody.... big john..... :))
....ps....Sweetie asked me just now to tell you about fixing chipped
tile....you figure out the color you need by experimenting and
mixing.....she then applies the paint to the chipped area (she uses a
Q-Tip), then lets it dry....after it's dry, she applies a little
polyurethane over the paint....voila'....if you've done it right, you
can't see the repair..... :))
JCNOPHD
tile....you figure out the color you need by experimenting and
mixing.....she then applies the paint to the chipped area (she uses a
Q-Tip), then lets it dry....after it's dry, she applies a little
polyurethane over the paint. >>
THANK YOU SWEETIE! and why didn't I think of this? Got a 15 year old ceramic
tile kitchen floor with chips here and there. Don't want to redo the whole
thing yet.
Jerry C. in Duncanville
Trainman
streets / sidewalks /tunnel portals / bridge abutments/ retaining walls
/etc).
Thinned, they're the most economical way to paint plaster/cement/hydrocal
etc.
Works great on Strathmore/matboard or wood structures.
I also use them to dye sawdust / sand / kitty litter / (and I'm going to try
the walnut shells).
A few squirts in the plaster mix colors your plaster so white won't show
when you get the inevitable chips.
I've even used it on Plastic structures (DPM for example) with good luck.
I've never tried spraying it, it would need to be thinned quite a bit, but
with some experimenting I'd bet you'd could come up with the equivalent of
"Polly S" for about one TENTH the price.
It's to the point now where almost the ONLY place I use "model paints" any
more is locomotives, rolling stock and automobiles.
Don
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aegis-two
week they had Anita's paint on sale for $.25 a bottle. Got a few bottles
but haven't used it yet. On Friday and Saturday Michael's has Americana
paint for 2 for $1.
aegis-two
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> I hope that you are right because I'll want to buy more. However I have
never seen it at AC Moore
> at this price before (it may have been on sale, but I never saw it).
Another fellow was buying a
> bunch while I was at AC Moore. He said that he buys it regularly and has
never seen the price this
> low. AC Moore's regular price for 2oz bottles is $.99 and Wal-Mart's
regular price is $.77 in our
> area (Southern Tier of New York).
>
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john a dalton
.....further word from Sweetie.....she's "gratified" that you could
use her suggestion....she says to experiment on the color to the
extent that you must realize that the polyurethane DARKENS the paint
slightly....AND, that after the polyurethane dries good, it is almost
as hard as the tile and will take wax or cleaning real well..... :))
......big john..... :))
....ps....if she ever learns to read and write she can answer these
herself.....for now her beauty is sufficient..... :)))
SPLATTTTT !!!!
Kennedy
> I hope that you are right because I'll want to buy more. However I have
> never seen it at AC Moore at this price before (it may have been on sale,
> but I never saw it). Another fellow was buying a bunch while I was at AC
> Moore. He said that he buys it regularly and has never seen the price
> this low. AC Moore's regular price for 2oz bottles is $.99 and
> Wal-Mart's regular price is $.77 in our area (Southern Tier of New York).
I get Ceramcoat regularly on sale at Michaels for $0.69/bottle. I can't
recall the frequency of the sales, but I check the Sunday flyers every
weekend to see.
Kennedy
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Kennedy
> ....and, while we're at it, here's another site with the full line of
> Delta Ceramcoat Paints....and, boy, are there a BUNCH !!!.....
>
> http://www.creativeoutletcrafts.com/shopusa/att1026.htm
>
> ....again, hope this helps..... big john.... :))
Boston Fern is an underrated color. We use it as the base coat of green
before flocking with a combo of Woodland Scenics turf for those stand-alone
things. Like buildings for gaming.
This is a tough color to find around here; Michaels doesn't always have it,
and Ben Franklin, where we used to get it, pulled out of Michigan years
ago.
Kennedy
> OK, I'll confess my ignorance... I've been watching this thread for
> awhile, and I still don't know what's so special about these
> particular paints.
>
> What are they especially good for?
Value. Bang for the Buck. Why buy a small bottle of black at a hobby shop
for $2.99 for maybe 1/2oz, when you can buy a 2oz bottle for $0.66?
Stuff's just as good, you can thin it with water if it gets sludgy, and the
variety of colors available means you can probably mix up any oddball RR
color you could come across.
I've been using that stuff for years painting wargaming figures and
buildings. I went over to a friend's once, and saw his wife's little stone
fig building collection, and I was amazed that our buildings that we
hand-paint with Ceramcoat (or equivalent) looks exactly the same.
BTW, I use the back of my hand to mix colors on the fly. The hand that's
holding the building.
mike willegal
Trainman wrote:
...snip...
>
> I've never tried spraying it, it would need to be thinned quite a bit, but
> with some experimenting I'd bet you'd could come up with the equivalent of
> "Polly S" for about one TENTH the price.
I've never been able to airbrush craft type paints like Ceramcoat, I will not
bother to attempt it anymore, just too fustrating for me. Perhaps someone else
has
figured out how to do it, though. The stuff is great for scenery and other
places where
spraying is not necessary, though.
Regards,
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but
| > with some experimenting I'd bet you'd could come up with the equivalent
of
| > "Polly S" for about one TENTH the price.
|
| I've never been able to airbrush craft type paints like Ceramcoat, I will
not
| bother to attempt it anymore, just too fustrating for me. Perhaps someone
else
| has
| figured out how to do it, though.
Needs to be severely diluted, but gives a really nice finish. I have had
good luck using automotive windshield washer fluid, denatured alcohol or
Liquitex Airbrush Medium. (Only one - don't mix!) You thin it to skim milk
consistency. If you dip your finger in, it should some out coated with
color, but drippy.
Must be strained. Rubber band a bit of nylon stocking over the airbrush
pipe. Or lay a square of stocking in the side cup. As with all acrylics:
30lb pressure, tip about 3" from the model, apply wet. Yellow, red, orange
may take a lot of coats - don't try for one or two coat coverage.
CTucker
Brockport, NY
Art Marsh
< ...and Ben Franklin, where we used to
< get it, pulled out of Michigan years ago.
Now that is a chain store that I have not heard about since the 60s. Was a
great place to shop in Kansas. Had Athearn, Atlas, Tyco, and some other rail
model stuff. Decent pricing too. Woolco drove them out of business.
Art Marsh
Fremont, CA
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paint my mainline track with "walnut", and spurs with "autumn brown" (I
think, I have so many colors now), a nice rust color.
I've sprayed it with success, though I had to thin it a lot more than
others have recommended, probably at least 50-50 with water, maybe even
a bit more. Have three baggage cars I redid in PRR colors (mixed
myself, don't ask the formula because I made it up as I went). Look
great.
Good luck
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Before you buy.
john a dalton
....Sam Walton bought the Ben Franklin stores when he started
Wallymart....he did it for the locations....very smart man...."from
little acorns mighty oaks grow".... :))
....big john..... :))
....ps....early on, he couldn't pay his employees, so he gave them
shares of stock instead.....thus, there were MANY millionaires, still
working day-to-day in Wallymart stores, up through the 80's....very
loyal folks..... :))
Tracy McKibben
Wal-Mart paints for a couple of years, and have been as satisfied with them
as with the true "modeler" paints. I'd love to hear your "For Sale" sign
trick...
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john a dalton
>What was your discovery with the "For Sale" sign? I've been using the
>Wal-Mart paints for a couple of years, and have been as satisfied with them
>as with the true "modeler" paints. I'd love to hear your "For Sale" sign
>trick...
.....the yellow "For Sale" signs are 87-cents each at
Wallymart....there's 2 different thicknesses....you want the heavier
ones.....they are easy to cut with scissors....what i do is take a
"building face" or "wall" (from odd or incomplete kit you can buy
cheap), and make 3 other walls out of styrene from the "For Sale"
signs.....i join the walls together at each corner with Testors
Non-Toxic Liquid Cement (in the BLACK triangle container).....the
styrene is soft and joins instantly.....if you're careful and slightly
"offset" each corner while gluing it, the joint comes out perfect, and
you don't hafta sand it or fool with it.....
.....as for a roof, i place small 3/8" pieces of Evergreen 0.10" or
0.25" square rod along the inside of the walls, near the top.....on
this "platform" i place a roof panel made out of the same styrene....i
fill in the gap between the walls and the roof panel with some
Evergreen 0.10" strips.....after i put this "building" all together, i
paint it up with the Wallymart paints.....
....the result is i get 4 or 5 buildings out of a single old
kit.....by using the "modular faces" from, say, DPM, you can get a
complete "warehouse district" for a couple of bucks, and a lot of
modeling satisfaction.....
.....how about windows for the styrene walls ?....most "faces" have
doors and/or windows already....."warehouse" walls usually don't have
any openings in real life (a real plus when you're
modeling)....however, you can use Grandt Line's windows, or use the
odd ones from all the old kits.....if push-comes-to-shove, you can
just cut rectangles in the styrene walls with a SHARP exacto (or use
square leather-punch dies chucked in your drill press), draw window
frames around them with a felt-tip, apply clear plastic to the
back-side, then draw window panes in with the felt-tip....the Sharpie
felt-tips are the best for this.....
......i got the idea from reading MR about doing just HALF a building,
the front face and one side, and placing the half-building at an angle
against a "cityscape" backdrop.....even did 2 TRIANGLE-shaped
buildings to run tracks beside in a tight city location.....that was a
lot of fun.....
.....after you make your first kitbashed styrene creation, you'll get
the hang of it.....at the price, even if you mess up, it's no big
deal.....i cut some styrene crooked one nite, so i just made the
building crooked....it leans precariously.....i put about 20 old
decals on it and made it into an ancient rundown grocery store affair
down at 14th and Oak St, the mythical street corner in Fibber McGee
and Molly.....
.....big john..... :))
...ps....if i missed something, forgive me first, then write me.....
:))
john a dalton
Kennedy
> < ...and Ben Franklin, where we used to
> < get it, pulled out of Michigan years ago.
>
> Now that is a chain store that I have not heard about since the 60s. Was
> a great place to shop in Kansas. Had Athearn, Atlas, Tyco, and some other
> rail model stuff. Decent pricing too. Woolco drove them out of business.
The Ben Franklin Crafts Store chain pulled out of here, but I did see a Ben
Franklin that was still open somewhere recently (can't quite remember
where). So, they're still in business.
john a dalton
>frisc...@aol.comhee-hee (Art Marsh) wrote:
>
>> < ...and Ben Franklin, where we used to
>> < get it, pulled out of Michigan years ago.
>>
>> Now that is a chain store that I have not heard about since the 60s. Was
>> a great place to shop in Kansas. Had Athearn, Atlas, Tyco, and some other
>> rail model stuff. Decent pricing too. Woolco drove them out of business.
>
>The Ben Franklin Crafts Store chain pulled out of here, but I did see a Ben
>Franklin that was still open somewhere recently (can't quite remember
>where). So, they're still in business.
>
>Kennedy
....some were franchised.....they changed the merchandise and layout,
but retained the Ben Franklin name so they would not hafta get a new
business license and pay $500 for it..... :))
.....McCrory's did the same thing.....most of their's wound up as junk
stores, owned by people from India, same as the flea-bag motels and
hotels owned by people from India, where they do NOT change the sheets
and pillowcases.....
.....big john..... :))
JCNOPHD
Ouch! Duck John. Do appreciate the followup info. Now to make myself get on
it. Actually have the paint already where? why in the railroad room of course.
Jerry C. in Duncanville