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What color were water tank hoops?

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Gerry Leone

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Dec 25, 2003, 8:16:20 PM12/25/03
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I'm scratchbuilding a water tank and just got stuck: what color were the
hoops on the tank? Were they painted black or were they just rust colored?

Also, does anyone know exactly how the Grandt Line hoop fasteners get
attached? I keep staring at them and can't figure out how they're supposed
to work.

Thanks!

-Gerry Leone
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Bob May

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Dec 25, 2003, 10:22:43 PM12/25/03
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Grandt #48 hoop fasteners are intended to be welded to one end of the wire
and the other end threaded. The installation on a model is just to apply
over the wire where they are joined to both hide the joint and to model the
adjustment part of the ends.
The bands are usually painted and are often painted black although some
other color may be used as determined by the management of the railroad.

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Bob May
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Wolf Kirchmeir

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Dec 25, 2003, 10:18:14 PM12/25/03
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 01:16:20 GMT, Gerry Leone wrote:

=>I'm scratchbuilding a water tank and just got stuck: what color were the
=>hoops on the tank? Were they painted black or were they just rust colored?

When new, some were painted black, others were painted the same colour as the
tank. Eventually, they rusted. But just how rusty they got depended on the
rialroad's maintenance policies. I'm afraid you'll have to check the specific
prototype you're modelling. The most likely colour is the tank's colour, with
some rust. Most of the photo's I've got show the bands as being the same
colour as the tank.

HTH

Wolf Kirchmeir
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Bruce Favinger

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Dec 25, 2003, 11:01:52 PM12/25/03
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Gerry,
I've only recall seeing one railroad water tank up close when I was a
kid tagging along with my Dad looking for steam locomotives still at work.
My father took a picture of it and it had turnbuckles holding the hoops
together. I don't recall where it was but I think it may have been a tank
used by narrow gauge D&RGW locomotives. The hoops were totally rusted except
for a few spots of what might have been black paint or just dark dirt.

The Grant Line fasteners can be fitted over the hoop after it is on the
tank. If you look at them real close there is a tiny groove in them. To get
them to sit flush over the hoop you may have to use a very small file to
enlarge the grove. I have almost completed a scratch built tank for my
Terrell TX locomotive facilities and the hoops with Grandt Line fasteners
have been painted and installed. My hoops are black with rust dry brushed
on. Stagger your fasteners from each other so that the uppermost fastener is
more or less over the water spout and that lowest one is 90 degrees to the
left. I'm sure there are other fastener arrangements but I've seen this in
several pictures and on the tank with turnbuckles. If it would help I could
send you a picture of my tank as my wife brought home the digital camera
from work for the Holidays. Its a Sony and looks like a really nice camera
so I would think it could do a decent close up. Bruce

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PEACHCREEK

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Dec 26, 2003, 9:12:30 AM12/26/03
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There is a water tank at Cass, WV that is used every season for the tourist
railroad. To the best of my knowledge no one EVER painted the hoops.

They were delivered as blackened steel bands and thats the way they stayed
until they need to be replaced, which hasn't occurred in my memory.

(bands they are, but they look more like black pipe)

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