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androoh&traceah

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Jun 30, 2002, 8:22:21 AM6/30/02
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Folks, I'm on my second serious scratch building project and when I cut
out my card templates for the walls I figured that 16ft for two storeys
would be enough. I measured the wall of my steel shed housing the Holdur
Tyte & Tosteppe Ry and it worked out at about 8ft...so that's where I
came unglued.
The structure will be either all timber, or stone first floor and
timber upper floor.
With spelling like that for the road, you'd be right in thinking that
it's around Mass'..

Also, with the platform in between two diverging tracks, I need to make
a canopy that tapers to the end from about 25ft wide to 5ft.
Has anyone seen any that do this? The surveyors didn't have much choice
when siting out the trackage. The road isn't as old as most in the area
and had to squeeze through some spaces. Hence the platform's odd shape.

I ma happy to fire off a jpg if anyone is needing to get a better idea
of what I have got msyelf into.

many thanks,

Andrew.
Brisbane Qld.

Trainman

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Jun 30, 2002, 9:51:25 AM6/30/02
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I would say 8' is too small. Most residential structures would be between 8
& 10', commercial structures Between 10 and 14, or even more.

Also, older structures would tend to have higher ceilings than newer ones.

Don


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Douglas Dressler

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Jun 30, 2002, 10:38:35 AM6/30/02
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"androoh&traceah" <and...@uq.net.au> wrote in message news:3D1EF7FD...@uq.net.au...
> Folks, I'm on my second serious scratch building project and when I cut
> out my card templates for the walls I figured that 16ft for two storeys
> would be enough. I measured the wall of my steel shed housing the Holdur
> Tyte & Tosteppe Ry and it worked out at about 8ft...so that's where I
> came unglued.
> The structure will be either all timber, or stone first floor and
> timber upper floor.

Take into account the thickness of the floor, Mine varies from 8" to a foot
for standard construction. This allows for one by sixes plus the floor
boards, plus the ceiling. (If it's a factory, the floor will be thicker to allow
for the weight of heavy machinery.)

Exposed second story flooring beams with braces are common in stone
lower floor/wood upper floor buildings:

\
__\ <roof
|
|< wood wall
_|_
|< beam prodruding from side of building (but often covered)
Ż|Ż
|
|<stone wall
|
|_____________

> With spelling like that for the road, you'd be right in thinking that
> it's around Mass'..

Don't feel bad, mine is a coaling branch called the Reading Terminal Railroad.

(RTR, or "'arr tee 'arr 'arr")

> Also, with the platform in between two diverging tracks, I need to make
> a canopy that tapers to the end from about 25ft wide to 5ft.
> Has anyone seen any that do this?

Yes, that funny angled building in Times Square is an example of building to
fit. I have seen loading docks that curve with matching overhead canopies.

Walls on buildings are often curved or angled to hug the right of way.
A tapering loading area is as common as angling one whole wall, or
building an annex that parellels the pre-existing tracks.

Think of the whole layout as valuable real estate complete with property
lines and you will realise that nobody would waste their land.

> The surveyors didn't have much choice
> when siting out the trackage. The road isn't as old as most in the area
> and had to squeeze through some spaces. Hence the platform's odd shape.

Navigating tracks through a town is like blasting through a mountain (that
protests)

> I ma happy to fire off a jpg if anyone is needing to get a better idea
> of what I have got msyelf into.
>
> many thanks,

You can put it in news:alt.binaries.pictures.rail


Stephen Foster

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Jun 30, 2002, 12:10:12 PM6/30/02
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Remember too that older homes often had ten or twelve foot ceillings.

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> "androoh&traceah" <and...@uq.net.au> wrote in message
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> > Folks, I'm on my second serious scratch building project and when I cut
> > out my card templates for the walls I figured that 16ft for two storeys
> > would be enough. I measured the wall of my steel shed housing the Holdur
> > Tyte & Tosteppe Ry and it worked out at about 8ft...so that's where I
> > came unglued.
> > The structure will be either all timber, or stone first floor and
> > timber upper floor.
>
> Take into account the thickness of the floor, Mine varies from 8" to a
foot
> for standard construction. This allows for one by sixes plus the floor
> boards, plus the ceiling. (If it's a factory, the floor will be thicker to
allow
> for the weight of heavy machinery.)
>
> Exposed second story flooring beams with braces are common in stone
> lower floor/wood upper floor buildings:
>
> \
> __\ <roof
> |
> |< wood wall
> _|_
> |< beam prodruding from side of building (but often covered)

> ¯|¯

Paul Newhouse

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Jun 30, 2002, 1:22:51 PM6/30/02
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In article <3D1EF7FD...@uq.net.au>,
androoh&traceah <and...@uq.net.au> writes:

In general, I think you'll find 9' (8'10") works better as a top-of-floor
to top-of-floor measurement for residential. The 8' distance is usually
the interior top-of-floor to bottom-of-ceiling measurement. The ceiling
treatment, floor joists, sub-flooring and flooring would typically add a
minimum of 8". Depending on the length of the structural support span it
could be greater than 12" ... even more if they used I-beams, concrete,
etc. And of course if they start doing vaulted spaces the sky is the
limit!! ;)

As others have pointed out; the era, type of building, etc are also
significant factors.

Paul

androoh&traceah

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Jul 1, 2002, 3:48:26 AM7/1/02
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Many thanks to Trainman,Douglas Dressler,Stephen Foster and Paul Newhouse.
All of your replies have made a much clearer picture and reminded me of stuff I
have forgotten over the years.Put altogether,it is a pretty good look.

Thanks again!

Andrew.

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