LIRR Paint colors
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which I think are gray with blue stripes. If so which paints would one
use unless someone knows of somebody on long Island that paints engines
and coaches but really I would like to do it myself. Thanx. John
Weisinger
Steve Lynch
look even better as the 15 units attest.
The NY&Atlantic, which has leased the LIRR freight operations, has at least
one ex-LIRR caboose that I have seen repainted in the green via paint
rollers. Quite evident as parts of the handrails were missed.
Steve Lynch
New York & Western Railroad
www.NYandW.com
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> In article <23429-3A...@storefull-158.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
> I've done plenty of LIRR stuff in plenty of paint schemes. Nobody ever
> criticized it, but I am sure once I list what I had used, there will be
> some commentary. Everyone has their own idea of what the absolute correct
> colors were, but if you were to look at any LIRR train of any era, you'd
> never see two cars the same shades of the same colors. LIRR didn't use
> the greatest paint, and surface preparation I don't think was in their
shop
> manuals! They usually brush painted everything (in later years, 1960's
on,
> they actually graduated to using ROLLERS!! Saw a photo of it being done
> in their employee newspaper!) and on top of it all, you had winter, and
> the rest of the year the humidity and proximity to the ocean wouldn't help
> their paint one bit.
>
> Anyhow, enough digression.
>
> For the older grey and orange paint schemes, I would ordinarily just
> use Floquil SP Lark Dark Grey and SP Daylight Orange. (I have seen some
> paint "recipes" saying a little bit of blue should be added to the grey,
> and a little bit of red to the orange. Straight out of the bottle worked
> for me.)
>
> On to the MTA "Platinum Mist" (not the same as Amtrak's color of the same
> name) and "Nordic Blue".....I was using Flouqil SP lettering grey for the
> "Platinum Mist". I also used Testor's Light Grey too. For the blue, I
> did at one time use Scalecoat EMD Demo Blue, but it had a bit too much
> metallic for what LIRR started using in the early 1970's. So I just used
> Floquil "Light Blue" after that. As for the yellow needed on some of the
> MTA paint schemes, I used Railbox Yellow.
>
> And going waaaaay back.....the tuscan red days.....nothing beats Floquil
> Tuscan Red.
>
> I never did do any of the "TichY' era cars with the lighter grey sides and
> eggshell color roofs, but a friend of mine in San Diego has a fleet of
them.
> I could consult with him to see what his painter used as I'm not sure.
>
>
>
>
Walt
A real sloppy job looks "best"? :)
Joe Versaggi
again for 13 years.
Ken (NY)
You really should use an HO scale roller. Teeny little thing
available from Walthers. :-)
Ken (NY)
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fascination with the pre-MTA LIRR shceme. Alas, I was too young to see it
first hand, with the exception of fleeting glimpses of some of the old cars
in the old scheme in a Queens scrapyard...As for the paints? I've been
getting the LIRR calendars for several years now. Some of the photos are
quite striking...Floquil acrylic "Tarnished Black" is a pretty close match
for the gray...As for the blue? Can't say, as I haven't done that scheme yet
(I use "Utility Orange" for the orange band on the cars/locos), but the
shade seems to be cornflower blue. Perhaps Great Northern Blue might work...
Are you in Long Island? E-mail me for reference photos...I will do what I
can to help...
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NYC
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Ken (NY)
<jani...@mindspring.com> had the unmitigated audacity to write:
>Being a resident of Queens, NYC (on Long Island, last I checked!), I found a
>fascination with the pre-MTA LIRR shceme. Alas, I was too young to see it
>first hand, with the exception of fleeting glimpses of some of the old cars
>in the old scheme in a Queens scrapyard...As for the paints? I've been
>getting the LIRR calendars for several years now. Some of the photos are
>quite striking...Floquil acrylic "Tarnished Black" is a pretty close match
>for the gray...As for the blue? Can't say, as I haven't done that scheme yet
>(I use "Utility Orange" for the orange band on the cars/locos), but the
>shade seems to be cornflower blue. Perhaps Great Northern Blue might work...
>
>Are you in Long Island? E-mail me for reference photos...I will do what I
>can to help...
>Lt. Jim
>NYC
>USA
Jim, drive out to Stewart Avenue, Garden City and in the small
freight yard you will see several "Ping Pong" coaches in the old grey
scheme and two cabin cars. One of the cabin cars is an N5a ex-Pennsy
car newly painted in the old LIRR tuscan with white lettering. The
other cabin car, an N52, I think, is in a newer LIRR scheme with the
"Dashing Dan" logo. It looks like they are being restored as the
handrails on the N5a have been repainted to the original white
recently. Maybe there will be a LIRR museum in the future?
Regards,
Joe Versaggi
> freight yard you will see several "Ping Pong" coaches in the old grey
> scheme and two cabin cars. One of the cabin cars is an N5a ex-Pennsy
> car newly painted in the old LIRR tuscan with white lettering. The
> other cabin car, an N52, I think, is in a newer LIRR scheme with the
> "Dashing Dan" logo. It looks like they are being restored as the
> handrails on the N5a have been repainted to the original white
> recently. Maybe there will be a LIRR museum in the future?
> Regards,
> Ken (NY)
Those aren't ping-pongs, those are postwar P-72's 2935 and 2956 in the
latest MTA paint scheme owned by
http://members.aol.com/belpaire/loco.htm Their whole fleet should be in
Oyster Bay next autumn. The platinum mist now looks gray. If you want to
see P54 ping-pongs, Steamtown has 7016 and one other in Tobyhanna Army
depot, the only ones still gray, but plans to scrap them if there are no
buyers. Other ping-pongs are 12 abandoned in Boonton, 1 (7099) maybe in
Gettysburg, 2 in Jeffersonville, OH, and 5 on the Knox and Kane. West
Virginia Northern had one, as does a tourist railroad in Indiana.
Steve Lynch
cabooses: http://www.nyandw.com/lirrcaboose.htm
engines: http://www.nyandw.com/lirrengines.htm
LIRR main: http://www.nyandw.com/lirrcontents.htm
Paint schemes; unfinished, need help here: http://www.nyandw.com/schemes.htm
Hope this helps.
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New York & Western Railroad
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Steve Lynch
are good 1950's gray/orange scheme paint colors.
http://www.nyandw.com/images/lic420s.jpg
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Steve Lynch
Steve Lynch
cabooses: http://www.nyandw.com/lirrcaboose.htm
engines: http://www.nyandw.com/lirrengines.htm
LIRR main: http://www.nyandw.com/lirrcontents.htm
Paint schemes; unfinished, need help here:
http://www.nyandw.com/schemes.htm
Hope this helps.
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New York & Western Railroad
www.NYandW.com
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Lt. Jim
Thanks for the tip! That ought to be a good excuse as any to go out to the Island
this weekend!
Regards,
Lt. Jim
Queens, NYC
LIRR/NY & A Country
Ken (NY)
the unmitigated audacity to write:
Thank you. I only rode past quickly and they sure looked like
ping pongs.
Ken (NY)
had the unmitigated audacity to write:
>Here are a few pages I have on LIRR stuff:
>cabooses: http://www.nyandw.com/lirrcaboose.htm
>engines: http://www.nyandw.com/lirrengines.htm
>LIRR main: http://www.nyandw.com/lirrcontents.htm
>Paint schemes; unfinished, need help here: http://www.nyandw.com/schemes.htm
>Hope this helps.
Thanks much. As a Long Islander, I should have seen those
before. Too long in narrow gauge, I suppose.