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VManes

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Sep 3, 2002, 11:20:57 PM9/3/02
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If you have access to the Sept. issue of Air Force magazine (put out the the
Air Force Association), look at pg 58. It shows a man standing in the
middle of a huge terrain scene used to make briefing films for WWII bomber
crews. The caption reads in part, "Artists constructed massive sets
depicting in miniature the exact topography of thousands of square miles of
Japan, recreating in painstaking detail structures and terrain." From the
looks of it, the guy's foot would cover a good sized freight yard (we
talking 1:1000 scale?) The visible part of the terrain model is probably
20 ft x 20 ft, and extends out past the edges of photo. Makes Godzilla look
puny!

Wonder if they put any locos and rolling stock into the scenes? There
certainly would have been a lot of railroad going into the port area.

Val


Rich

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Sep 4, 2002, 3:09:45 AM9/4/02
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VManes wrote:

You haven't seen anything until you have seen NorthLandz in NJ. This guy
has a train layout that has a walking tour a mile long. It takes 2 hours
minimum to see the whole layout. When you think your done you pass a
sign that says, "your only 50% through the tour. It's pretty unbelievable.

Rich

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"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK!"


Fox Mulder

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Sep 4, 2002, 4:05:21 AM9/4/02
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Rich wrote:

> You haven't seen anything until you have seen NorthLandz in NJ. This guy
> has a train layout that has a walking tour a mile long. It takes 2 hours
> minimum to see the whole layout. When you think your done you pass a
> sign that says, "your only 50% through the tour. It's pretty unbelievable.

is there any info on the web about this guy and his layout?
tnx :)
--
Fox Mulder
...the truth is out there

kramer last

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Sep 4, 2002, 4:43:56 AM9/4/02
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Fox Mulder

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Sep 4, 2002, 4:47:01 AM9/4/02
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kramer last wrote:

> http://www.northlandz.com/

thank you! :) it's really HUGE!

Steve Caple

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Sep 4, 2002, 3:59:11 PM9/4/02
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VManes wrote:
> terrain model

I was fascinated by the very specific sort of terrain modelling in a radar
trainer when I was at FAETUPAC (Fleet Airborne Electronics Training Unit
Pacific) on NAS North Island at San Diego.

This was the analog era, pre-digital: to simulate radar returns from a
moving aircraft [a P-3 - we were an anti-sub training center], they had a
small high frequency sound transducer mounted on a traveling bridge [like a
gantry crane, or a plotter but movable in both axes] over a water filled
tank. The bottom of the tank was a model of the southern SF Bay area
(around Moffett Field) made with small blocks of various materials and a
wide variety of grades of sand glued in place. The bridge moved up and down
the tank and the transducer moved back and forth across it, while the
transducer head rotated at a rate appropriate to the radar involved, and the
sonar return was translated and fed to actual radar displays. I imagine
someone did a lot of research comparing the sonar returns to tapes of actual
Moffet Field area radar returns to evaluate the densities and grain sizes of
the sand and other objects.

--
Steve
Big Fork & Diehl RR

* DO NOT look into Laser with remaining eye! *

kramer last

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Sep 4, 2002, 4:05:06 PM9/4/02
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They had something very similar for the flight simulator at my first base.
Cast block structures scanned by a moving gantry then changed to computer
generated wire frames. They were in the process of trying to get the
program upgraded so they could skin the wire frames to make it a bit more
"realistic" for the student pilots.


CBT2000

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Sep 5, 2002, 6:55:57 PM9/5/02
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About 15 years ago we were cotacted by Rockwell International to build a Z
scale model railroad. They already had a very large display; I think it was
1/1200, in a 40'x60' room (please forgive if my memory is not exactly correct)
For pilot simulation a camera would move over the terrain for a bird's eye
view. the plan was to additional build a 1/325 scale model with more detail
and moving trains, so pilots could experience movement in the scene they were
viewing. Pretty far out. However, this was a time of expansion of computer
simulations, and I think they decided to go that route. To bad. :-(

Don Cardiff
Layouts by Cardiff
Kaneville, IL

Charles Krug

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Sep 6, 2002, 9:42:22 AM9/6/02
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Dad was an airline pilot. He took us to the flight training center where we
saw the enormous 3d map with the simulator camera flying over it.

One thing they sometimes did was capture a cockroach and pin it to the runway
on the model. The Texas-sized roaches were just as wide as the toy runway, so
on final approach would be directly into it's greatly magnified jaws.

Rich

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Sep 6, 2002, 10:02:38 PM9/6/02
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Charles Krug wrote:

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Sounds like a Sci fi movie I once saw!!!

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