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Mark L

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Jan 17, 2010, 2:17:21 PM1/17/10
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looking for brushes for life-like, atlas, model-power engines.


Wolf K

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Jan 17, 2010, 2:45:06 PM1/17/10
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Mark L wrote:
> looking for brushes for life-like, atlas, model-power engines.
>
>

AFAIK, there are no brushes available for any motors in N scale
locomotives. Nor for most motors in Ho scale locos, either. Open frame
motors are about the only ones for which you can get brushes.

sorry for the downer,
wolf k.

Bob May

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Jan 17, 2010, 8:43:00 PM1/17/10
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If the manufacturer doesn't have the parts you need, there basically aren't
any available. Thus the loco basically becomes a dummy.

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LDosser

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Jan 17, 2010, 8:53:15 PM1/17/10
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"Wolf K" <wek...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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How about re-motoring?

Wolf K

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Jan 17, 2010, 9:34:49 PM1/17/10
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That, or buy a new loco.

cheers,
wolf k.

David Nebenzahl

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Jan 17, 2010, 9:39:38 PM1/17/10
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On 1/17/2010 11:45 AM Wolf K spake thus:

I'm not sure I would give up so easily.

It might be difficult to locate them, but chances are good that
*someone* out there makes replacement brushes for almost any motor,
large or small.

F'rinstance, I found the following page on a google search:

http://www.integy.com/st_main.html?p_catid=31

Unfortunately, there's no indication how large these brushes are, but
there are lots of different kinds. Perhaps a call to them might turn up
some useful information.

Or you could try contacting carbon brush manufacturers directly:

http://www.acecarbon.com
http://www.schaeferbrush.com
http://www.buckeyemoldedproducts.com


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fl@liner

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Jan 17, 2010, 11:16:38 PM1/17/10
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Atlas has some coverage in their parts listings, but the
coverage is pretty spotty. Has the OP tried calling the
mfgr/distributor?

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Peter W.

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Jan 18, 2010, 2:04:32 AM1/18/10
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On Jan 17, 2:17 pm, "Mark L" <lod...@pldi.net> wrote:
> looking for brushes for life-like, atlas, model-power engines.

Mark,
did you try contacting each manufacturer? BTW, LifeLike was bought out
by Walthers. Also, what engines and how old are they? For example
Life-Like made N scale engines using several different motors which
might use different brushes.

Also it is not common for brushes to wear out during normal use.
Normally that takes a very long time. Are you sure that the brushes
are your problem?

If all the locos are of recent vintage then there is a pretty good
chance that they all use similar motors with similar brushes so if you
are able to find some brushes they might fit all the motors.

Christopher A. Lee

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Jan 18, 2010, 2:20:34 AM1/18/10
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NWSL supply all sorts of tiny can motors for N-Gauge, and their
catalog describes various "how to" fitting methods.

Erik Olsen

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Jan 18, 2010, 2:56:21 AM1/18/10
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> How about re-motoring?

Atlas sells spare motors directly. See http://www.atlasrr.com/nparts.htm
for info on spare parts.

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David Nebenzahl

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Jan 18, 2010, 3:12:28 AM1/18/10
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On 1/17/2010 11:04 PM Peter W. spake thus:

> If all the locos are of recent vintage then there is a pretty good
> chance that they all use similar motors with similar brushes so if
> you are able to find some brushes they might fit all the motors.

It's also possible that some brushes may not be replaceable at all, like
some small Mabuchi motors that were never designed for brush removal and
reinstallation.

Wolf K

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Jan 18, 2010, 9:26:22 AM1/18/10
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David Nebenzahl wrote:
> On 1/17/2010 11:45 AM Wolf K spake thus:
>
>> Mark L wrote:
> >
>>> looking for brushes for life-like, atlas, model-power engines.
>>
>> AFAIK, there are no brushes available for any motors in N scale
>> locomotives. Nor for most motors in Ho scale locos, either. Open frame
>> motors are about the only ones for which you can get brushes.
>>
>> sorry for the downer,
>
> I'm not sure I would give up so easily.
>
> It might be difficult to locate them, but chances are good that
> *someone* out there makes replacement brushes for almost any motor,
> large or small.

Depends on the motor. Most modern motors used in model engines are
closed (can) motors, which are not designed for repair. Some older N
scale locos had open frame motors, but it's a) unlikely that these are
still made; and b) that anyone stocks parts for them.

Another, not inconsiderable, issue is taking the engine apart to get at
the motor and then reassembling it

> F'rinstance, I found the following page on a google search:
>
> http://www.integy.com/st_main.html?p_catid=31
>
> Unfortunately, there's no indication how large these brushes are, but
> there are lots of different kinds. Perhaps a call to them might turn up
> some useful information.

These are brushes for RC model cars, which are generally 1/12th scale or
thereabouts. The motors are pretty big, with brushes aroun 1/8th inch or
larger.

The brushes for an N scale loco would be on the order of 1mm diameter.

> Or you could try contacting carbon brush manufacturers directly:
>
> http://www.acecarbon.com

These guys make brushes for industrial motors.

> http://www.schaeferbrush.com

These guys make cleaning brushes.

> http://www.buckeyemoldedproducts.com

Another mfr of industrial motor brushes (and contacts, etc.)

Wolf K

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Jan 18, 2010, 9:41:24 AM1/18/10
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David Nebenzahl wrote:
> On 1/17/2010 11:45 AM Wolf K spake thus:
>
>> Mark L wrote:
> >
>>> looking for brushes for life-like, atlas, model-power engines.
>>
>> AFAIK, there are no brushes available for any motors in N scale
>> locomotives. Nor for most motors in Ho scale locos, either. Open frame
>> motors are about the only ones for which you can get brushes.
>>
>> sorry for the downer,
>
> I'm not sure I would give up so easily.
[...]

This company might help OP.

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/micro_motor_carbon_brush-showroom.html

HTH
wolf k.

David Nebenzahl

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Jan 18, 2010, 1:58:41 PM1/18/10
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On 1/18/2010 6:41 AM Wolf K spake thus:

I hate to rain on your parade, as I was hoping you'd found a link that
was much better than the ones I posted, but all of the companies listed
here are in China, India and Taiwan: good luck dealing with them trying
to find replacement brushes for some model railroad locomotive motor.

(There probably are suitable replacements somewhere there, but it's like
trying to find the proverbial needle in a haystack.)

Wolf K

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Jan 18, 2010, 2:41:51 PM1/18/10
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David Nebenzahl wrote:
> On 1/18/2010 6:41 AM Wolf K spake thus:
>
>> This company might help OP.
>>
>> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/micro_motor_carbon_brush-showroom.html
>
> I hate to rain on your parade, as I was hoping you'd found a link that
> was much better than the ones I posted, but all of the companies listed
> here are in China, India and Taiwan: [...]

Precisely.... ;-)

wolf k.

swimm...@hotmail.com

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Jul 18, 2017, 9:35:04 PM7/18/17
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On Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 11:17:21 AM UTC-8, Mark L wrote:
> looking for brushes for life-like, atlas, model-power engines.

actually- they are 1.6mm in diameter. go to www.katousa.com follow the directions t order part# 927010 (2 brushes, 2 springs, and 2 caps) cost will be about $3.50D. the brushes and springs will fit fine, just pitch the caps (they'll prolly be different) and reuse the old ones. they'll work on most asian-made N scale motors. see how I did that? rob
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