Roller Bearing Models
Gloor Craft (?)
Alco Models (not brass but passenger cars)
To your list (off the top of my head) I can add KurtzKraft and Globe (a
name used briefly by Athearn when they were not sure plastic would sell!).
> I was going through my boxes of old stuff trying to figure out what to
> do with it. I compiled an interesting list of former Model Train
> Manufacturers no longer around (I think). I am sure I am missing
> E&B Valley --- became Eastern Car works
> Ambroid - still around making glue
> Robin's Rails
> Roller Bearing Models
> Silver Streak
> Herkimer -- arising again in NY.
> Quality Craft
> Front Range
> E&C Shops
> AHM ---became IHC - became Model Expo -- changes name with every
> Gloor Craft (?)
> Alco Models (not brass but passenger cars) -- became E&B Valley
"Rathburne" <ffrat...@aol.com> wrote in message
There are more, but I'm tired.
Varney, Penn Scale Models, Penn Line, Binkley, Laconia,
American GK Loco, and a bunch of others.
Many of these lines still exist, either under new names or
the tools and/or models under different brands.
It would take a long posting to delineate them all.
Megow, Varney, Garco, Pioneer, DeVore, Baker, Ulrich, Cascade Pacific,
Red Ball, Kaw Valley, General Models, Marx, Midlin, PFM, Max Gray,
Alpha, International, Sattler's, Ken Kidder, Balboa, Westside, Troller,
Magnussen, Suydam (some of their buildings are still around) ... and
many, many more.
Some of the old Kemtron stuff still avialable from Precision Scale.
Herkimer is still in business but they call it OK..... they also make model
Bowser has much of the Penn Line stuff.
Bowser also has a few of Varneys old steam loco kits.
The old plastic kits are still around from different mfg for the most part.
Keep your rails shiny!
"If it ain't steam, it's a powered boxcar"
All Points North Model RR Club (Houston TX)
"Lunatickles" <Pixe...@cox.delete.net> wrote in message
> Silver Streak
Still around as a division of Ye Olde Huff 'N' Puff and being sold
under the Silver Streak name AFAIK.
Remove the Extra Dot to e-mail me
"Andrew S. Miller" wrote:
> Some of these are re-rincarnated. See my annotations below.
Andy, model railroad company liniage is not always what it appears to
> > E&B Valley --- became Eastern Car works
Nope. ECW now owns the molds for many of the E&B Valley cars, but that's
it. In fact, E&B Valley actually became:
> > Robin's Rails
Both owned by Bill Glass, AKA Bondo Billy, who used to frequent this
newsgroup. By the time E&B Became Robin's Rails, his main business had
become custom decorating cars, primarily for Bev Bel. E&B stood for
Ellen & Bill, Robin is their daughter. Bill has no connection to ECW.
> > AHM ---became IHC -
No direct link between the two. Bernie Paul, owner of AHM, sold out to
General Hobbies. GH later went belly up, and Bernie somehow got the
remnents of it, including a lot of the inventory, and most of the old
lines, too. But the current IHC is not a direct corporate successor to
> became Model Expo -- changes name with every
> > backrupcy!
The ONLY connection between AHM, IHC and Model Expo is that they were
all at one time importers of Rivarossi! When IHC had some sort of
falling out with Rivarossi, Model Expo became the importer.
> > Alco Models (not brass but passenger cars) -- became E&B Valley
Again, no. I forget which came first. I THINK E&B, but Bill Glass had no
connection to Alco.
> Andy Miller
Peter King in NY
Charles M. Schulz 1922 - 2000.
Cartoonist, artist, illustrator, philosopher, humanitarian.
Rest in peace, old friend. And thank you for a lifetime of smiles and
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Rick Jones wrote in message <3D583CDA...@extra.lanset.com>...
More for the list.
Scotia Scale Models
Lytler & Lytler
The Model Builder's Supply Co., Duarte, Calif.
It's a "Wood Side Ore Car" kit, all wood.
Alexander Scale Models, Grand Rapids, Michigan
"Little Hook" The Industrial Brownhoist 10-Ton Pillar Crane
Well after looking inside the box, it is not a complete kit.
Yes it has been mentioned, but it is a "H O Gauge Watermelon Car
Kit" "Authentic A C L Prototype"
Just a list from what I see in these old boxes:
Star Hobby Products, Brooklyn, NY
"Two Flashing Electric Billboards" "Ready Built" $2.50
Dyna-Model Products Company,76 South Street, Oyster Bay, NY
"Plumbing Supply House" $3.50
The Cliff Line, 7301 Atall Avenue, No. Hollywood, California
Scale Models, Kit # TC-50 Depressed Center Flat Car,
Sprung Trucks, Transformer Load.
But there is a metal steam locomotive inside, in parts, inside
Laconia HO Gauge Car Kit, Laconia Industries, Franklin, N. H.
"Central Vermont Milk Reefer"
Box is empty
Hi-Ballers Corporation, 1817 W. Verdugo Ave. Burbank, Calif.
"Golden Eagle Fast ... can't read the rest. But inside the box is
another metal steam locomotive in parts.
Then a woman I used to date gave me her past husbands train stuff, all
Varney HO Model Trains. Quite a few cars and locomotives, but I have
no interest in these old models since tomorrow I am going to purchase
a Athearn, Genesis, SD-70-MAC locomotive for my undersized layout.
NMRA, SER Division .
Michael L. Senchuk
Chief Engineer, Reckless & Veiled Railroad
I am curious. Do you still have the Varney stuff? I would be interested
in any boxcars or tank cars you might have.
Bob Rule, Jr.
ffrat...@aol.com (Rathburne) wrote in message news:<7f2c0704.02081...@posting.google.com>...
Silver Streak is now part of Ye Olde Huff 'n' Puff.
Just off the top of my head, a few adds to the list (some of the kits are
still around under other names.)
Binkley / Laconia
Ulrich (recently started up again)
Walthers (items that were actually MADE by Walthers, not the stuff today
that's "jobbed out")
American Beauty Lines.
Rathburne <ffrat...@aol.com> wrote in message
Speaking of CCS brings to mind the many manufacturers of the "Red Ball"
line. (Howell Day, M. Dale Newton etc.)
Globe was originally a separate company based out of Chicago. The line
(including the venerable F-7) was sold to Athearn in the mid to late 1950's.
Andrew S. Miller <asmi...@mitre.org> wrote in message
Wasn't Bernie the original owner of Aristo Craft before it bacame AHM?
The original PRR P-70 coaches offered by Alco (as B&O cars as I recall)
became the E&B Valley ones. Whether Bill bought the dies from Alco or not I
don't know. They WERE the same kit though.
Alpine does indeed have some of the old Suydam kits (after a short time as
"California Model Company".
A lot of people forget that BEFORE Suydam some of the kits were sold by
"Ayers" and "Tru-Scale".
> Alexander Scale Models, Grand Rapids, Michigan
> "Little Hook" The Industrial Brownhoist 10-Ton Pillar Crane
> Well after looking inside the box, it is not a complete kit.
Alexander is still around (at least as of a couple years ago)
I need one of the "little Hooks" right now AAMOF, there's a place on the
layout waiting for it.
> Yes it has been mentioned, but it is a "H O Gauge Watermelon Car
> Kit" "Authentic A C L Prototype"
Ambroid kits were actually made by Northeastern. The entire "1 of 5000"
line was eventually reissued by Northeastern.
The entire "Heritage line" was eventually reissued by Quality Craft/Gloor
(That's what first soured me on "imited runs"
> Just a list from what I see in these old boxes:
> Star Hobby Products, Brooklyn, NY
> "Two Flashing Electric Billboards" "Ready Built" $2.50
Star MAY have become Ideal, I'm not sure though (we're talking 48 years ago
> Dyna-Model Products Company,76 South Street, Oyster Bay, NY
> "Plumbing Supply House" $3.50
I THINK Dyna Models is still around, they were in the mid 90's.
> The Cliff Line, 7301 Atall Avenue, No. Hollywood, California
> Scale Models, Kit # TC-50 Depressed Center Flat Car,
> Sprung Trucks, Transformer Load.
> But there is a metal steam locomotive inside, in parts, inside
> the box.
Some of the Cliff Line cars MAY have made it to the RedBall line.
> Laconia HO Gauge Car Kit, Laconia Industries, Franklin, N. H.
> "Central Vermont Milk Reefer"
> Box is empty
Laconia merged with Binkley sometime in the late 1950's.
> Hi-Ballers Corporation, 1817 W. Verdugo Ave. Burbank, Calif.
> "Golden Eagle Fast ... can't read the rest. But inside the box is
> another metal steam locomotive in parts.
That one I don't remember.
> Then a woman I used to date gave me her past husbands train stuff, all
> Varney HO Model Trains. Quite a few cars and locomotives, but I have
> no interest in these old models since tomorrow I am going to purchase
> a Athearn, Genesis, SD-70-MAC locomotive for my undersized layout.
> Dick Rex
> NMRA, SER Division .
So ship it here! I still USE a lot of that stuff.
It seems that there are a lot of you guys interested in the great old
manufactures. Have you heard of the "HO Scale Collectors and History", special
interest group? They cover all those manufactures with a quarterly magazine
and its inexpensive to. If anyone interested, e-mail me at: paul...@aol.com.
Is it the same Dyna Models of Sangerville Maine? If so, I think they are still
around but not very active, (sort of like me!)
James F. Hodgdon Jr.
Hodgdon Scale Models
>Just off the top of my head, a few adds to the list (some of the kits are
>still around under other names.)
Besides Alco Models, there was Alco Engineering, of Decatur, Georgia.
They made brass freight car kits...
When I discovered their existence in an old issue of MR, I discovered
that we both had the same address! Apparently they operated out of
the basement of a house I later rented. No evidence of any leftover
brass when I lived there though...
They had, for a time, the old Varney parts and kits. Life-Like
got most of the late ready to discard stuff, and then, later
Bowser got much of the line, along with Penn Line, Penn
Scale Models and still later Cal-Scale as well as some
other parts catalogs.
> Wasn't Bernie the original owner of Aristo Craft before it bacame AHM?
I seem to recall some connection between him and Aristo, the old stuff
made by New One Models. But I'm a little fuzzy on that.
> The original PRR P-70 coaches offered by Alco (as B&O cars as I recall)
> became the E&B Valley ones. Whether Bill bought the dies from Alco or not I
> don't know. They WERE the same kit though.
As I said, I'm fuzzy on the order. E&B was active in the '80s. I THOUGHT
Alco lasted longer than that, but I'm not sure. You may well be right.
(Although I'm pretty sure you ARE right about the kits being the same.