Hope Springs Eternal.
Twibil
Do I hear three dollars? Two fifty?
Hello?
David Nebenzahl
> http://cgi.ebay.com/THREE-RARE-TETSUDO-MOKEISHA-BRASS-MODEL-RAILROAD-TRAINS_W0QQitemZ230341723537QQihZ013QQcategoryZ78178QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Do I hear three dollars? Two fifty?
>
> Hello?
A starting bid of $119? WTF?!?!?
I would have started it at $1.19 (I love to start eBay auctions at odd
amounts and place odd-amount bids--most people don't even realize you
can do this and just bid in even dollar amounts). Too bad; the cars,
incomplete though they may be, actually look pretty nice. I'd top your
high bid there.
--
Save the Planet
Kill Yourself
- motto of the Church of Euthanasia (http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/)
Twibil
> On 5/7/2009 12:54 PM Twibil spake thus:
>
>
> > Hello?
>
> A starting bid of $119? WTF?!?!?
Actually, at the time I posted here the bidding was listed as starting
at $319.00, and the seller seems to have half-way sobered up in the
interim.
Only one more half to go.
~Pete
David Nebenzahl
Heh; check out the auction now. I sent the seller a message, and they
not only replied but posted my message on the auction, so maybe they're
not all bad.
David Nebenzahl
> On 5/7/2009 4:38 PM Twibil spake thus:
>
>> On May 7, 4:21 pm, David Nebenzahl <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
> >
>>> On 5/7/2009 12:54 PM Twibil spake thus:
>>>
>>> > Do I hear three dollars? Two fifty?
>>>
>>> > Hello?
>>>
>>> A starting bid of $119? WTF?!?!?
>>
>> Actually, at the time I posted here the bidding was listed as starting
>> at $319.00, and the seller seems to have half-way sobered up in the
>> interim.
>>
>> Only one more half to go.
>
> Heh; check out the auction now. I sent the seller a message, and they
> not only replied but posted my message on the auction, so maybe they're
> not all bad.
Boy, this has turned into something truly bizarre:
o I sent the seller a message, which they replied to and then posted on
their auction.
o I sent the seller another message giving him credit for posting the
message.
o I get another message from the seller, this time telling me "Your
feedback is BOGUS. I am contacting Ebay to suspend you and Hal."
o Puzzled, I shoot the seller another message telling them that I'm
totally puzzled about this comment.
o I check the auction again to see another comment posted there,
apparently referring to me:
I wanted to warn you against the Ebayer who just asked a question: his
feedback is manufactured and he is about get suspended for fraud. These
trains are rare!
So this raises several questions:
1. Who posted that second message above? Was it perhaps the seller themself?
2. Why did the seller post my (negative) comment in the first place?
3. How does the person who posted that comment figure that my feedback
is "manufactured"? (The last time I got feedback on *any* eBay
transaction was way back in April of '07, and I can assure that all of
my feedback was genuine: I have a 100% rating.)
4. Who the hell is Hal?
We'll see where this goes, and what comes of this attempt to have me
"suspended for fraud". (?!?!?)
Twibil
> Heh; check out the auction now.
I just did. And *you* had better also!
There's a claim posted there that you're about to be suspended from
eBay for manufacturing fraudulent feedback, and that "these Trains are
RARE!"
> I sent the seller a message, and they
> not only replied but posted my message on the auction, so maybe they're
> not all bad.
We've had our differences, Dave, but I sort of doubt that you've been
faking your own eBay feedback ratings.
I suspect the seller is sending himself faked questions and answering
them as well, so if you *aren't* about to be suspended from eBay I'd
get in touch with them muy pronto and get that auction pulled.
~Pete
Twibil
>
> We'll see where this goes, and what comes of this attempt to have me
> "suspended for fraud". (?!?!?)
Ah, I see you found it on your own...
My best guess is that you're dealing with an unbalanced person:
possibly an alcoholic or drug abuser.
(A) The very strange original opening bid of $300+ -that suddenly
changed to a less horrific but still irrational $100+, (B) the
seemingly out-of-sequence and out-of-context Q&A replies, and (C) the
fraudulent claims of your feedback ratings and your imminent
defenistration from eBay all speak of someone who isn't tracking
reality very well.
I'd contact eBay and point out their fraudulent claims if I were you.
(BTW: I just posted them to back your claim that the cars are neither
rare nor valuable. We'll see if they try something similar on me or
just ignore the post completely...)
~Pete
David Nebenzahl
Thanks for the heads-up. I saw that new message on the auction just
before I saw your post.
At this point, I'm going by the assumption that the seller posted that
message, and that they're just bluffing about trying to have me
suspended, as a way of refuting what I said in the comment of mine that
they posted. I'm not too worried about actually being suspended, but I
fired off a message to eBay customer support just in case.
All of which begs the question: why the hell did they post my comment in
the first place?
Twibil
>
> All of which begs the question: why the hell did they post my comment in
> the first place?
See "unbalanced person", in my post above ^.
~Pete
Twibil
Just called eBay customer support and informed them that the seller is
manufacturing his own fictional questions and answers.
They took a look at the auction and agreed that the 2nd question was
indeed manufactured to suit the seller, and demonstrated that it
*must* be the case because the seller replies "I've just heard back
from eBay about his imminent suspension", and that's an outright lie:
according to eBay they *never* share any such information, and would
be legally liable for damages if they did.
The guy I spoke to said he was forwarding the information on to their
fraud division for action -possibly tomorrow. He also said that this
was the first time he'd seen anyone try this particular scam, and he
agreed that the seller wasn't too tightly wrapped.
I guess we'll see what -if anything- happens.
~Pete
Ray Haddad
wrote:
>Hello?
So how much would you normally expect to pay for hope springs? Are the
springs available in N as well as HO?
--
Ray
Twibil
>
> So how much would you normally expect to pay for hope springs? Are the
> springs available in N as well as HO?
Don't quit your day job: comedy writing is a cruel mistress.
Ray Haddad
wrote:
>On May 7, 8:27�pm, Ray Haddad <r...@perthmagic.com> wrote:
My cliends and audiences would disagree.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
wrote:
Sheesh! That would be clients. I wonder why that passed my spell
checker. Must be gremlins.
--
Ray
Twibil
>
> >> So how much would you normally expect to pay for hope springs? Are the
> >> springs available in N as well as HO?
>
> >Don't quit your day job: comedy writing is a cruel mistress.
>
> My cliends and audiences would disagree.
If the above is typical of your best efforts, they must be very good
friends and cliends indeed.
Because they're politely lying to you so as to spare your feelings.
Ray Haddad
wrote:
>On May 7, 8:44�pm, Ray Haddad <r...@perthmagic.com> wrote:
No, rather, they pay me. I'm an entertainer. I do that for a living.
You're a critic but apparently an amateur.
--
Ray
Steve Caple
> No, rather, they pay me. I'm an entertainer. I do that for a living.
> You're a critic but apparently an amateur.
Never mind, Pete. Mus be the sheep factor . . .
--
Steve
pet...@my-deja.com
> I guess we'll see what -if anything- happens.
>
> ~Pete
Auction ended early.
This is really odd as the seller had 100% positive feedback and those
feedbacks are current (27 last month). Either the seller really
flipped their lid, aliens invaded their body or someone hijacked
their account.
Brass my a$$ - photos clearly show that the coach is made of wood!
Even more bizarre is the fact that they have several other active
listings. Some of the starting bids also seem to high to me. I also
saw questions and replies posted in another listing and everything
looked normal.
We live in a strange world full of strange people and I can say that
even looking in the mirror. :-)
Peteski
Twibil
>
> >> >Don't quit your day job: comedy writing is a cruel mistress.
>
> >> My cliends and audiences would disagree.
>
> >If the above is typical of your best efforts, they must be very good
> >friends and cliends indeed.
>
> >Because they're politely lying to you so as to spare your feelings.
>
> No, rather, they pay me. I'm an entertainer. I do that for a living.
> You're a critic but apparently an amateur.
BUAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA(GASP-WHEEZE)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! "AMATEUR"! I
LOVE IT!
I'm 65 now and I've been a successful professional entertainer/
musician/writer/etcetera since I was 23.
That's 42 years so far.
Started out hosting live music radio shows in the San Francisco Bay
area and then later on in southern California, worked on the road as a
single, worked clubs all over the western US, did quite a bit of
studio work, won a number of guitar/banjo/fiddle contests, fronted
Country, Bluegrass, Old-Timey, and Classic Rock bands, taught music
for 12 years at the University of California, have appeared multiple
times on various network radio and TV shows, have worked with some of
the best in the business, and have published technical and humor
articles plus original music in Frets, Pickin', Banjo Newsletter,
Bluegrass Soundboard, American Modeler, Narrow Gauge and Short Line
Gazette, Reader's Digest (Gawd help me), and various other national
publications ever since the early '70s.
Still work two or three times a month fronting an acoustic Jazz band,
still do occasional studio work, still teach, and still write -and
sell- humor. (See example below.)
Free hint: if you're going to try to insult someone it generally helps
if the insult you're planning to use has at least some minimal,
distant, connection with reality.
~Pete
~Pete
Twibil
>
> > No, rather, they pay me. I'm an entertainer. I do that for a living.
> > You're a critic but apparently an amateur.
>
> Never mind, Pete. Mus be the sheep factor . . .
Baaa humbug.
~Pete
Twibil
>
> Auction ended early.
Well, *that* was certainly prompt!
> We live in a strange world full of strange people and I can say that
> even looking in the mirror. :-)
Hey! Me too!
Of course I'd be happier if I could see my reflection there.
~Pete
Ray Haddad
wrote:
>On May 7, 11:06�pm, Ray Haddad <r...@perthmagic.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Don't quit your day job: comedy writing is a cruel mistress.
>>
>> >> My cliends and audiences would disagree.
>>
>> >If the above is typical of your best efforts, they must be very good
>> >friends and cliends indeed.
>>
>> >Because they're politely lying to you so as to spare your feelings.
>>
>> No, rather, they pay me. I'm an entertainer. I do that for a living.
>> You're a critic but apparently an amateur.
>
>BUAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA(GASP-WHEEZE)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! "AMATEUR"! I
>LOVE IT!
>
>I'm 65 now and I've been a successful professional entertainer/
>musician/writer/etcetera since I was 23.
>
>That's 42 years so far.
And I've been in the biz for 50 this year.
>Started out hosting live music radio shows in the San Francisco Bay
>area and then later on in southern California, worked on the road as a
>single, worked clubs all over the western US, did quite a bit of
>studio work, won a number of guitar/banjo/fiddle contests, fronted
>Country, Bluegrass, Old-Timey, and Classic Rock bands, taught music
>for 12 years at the University of California, have appeared multiple
>times on various network radio and TV shows, have worked with some of
>the best in the business, and have published technical and humor
>articles plus original music in Frets, Pickin', Banjo Newsletter,
>Bluegrass Soundboard, American Modeler, Narrow Gauge and Short Line
>Gazette, Reader's Digest (Gawd help me), and various other national
>publications ever since the early '70s.
>
>Still work two or three times a month fronting an acoustic Jazz band,
>still do occasional studio work, still teach, and still write -and
>sell- humor. (See example below.)
Still doing my thing full time, mate. Over the years, I've worked in
more than 30 countries. Is this "belly bucking" going to go on much
longer? It's Friday night here and I've got a gig in 90 minutes.
>http://web.archive.org/web/20020307010308/http://www.chordacopia.com/stories_(fiction)/grandma_and_the_bear.htm
>
>Free hint: if you're going to try to insult someone it generally helps
>if the insult you're planning to use has at least some minimal,
>distant, connection with reality.
Thanks for the advice, amateur. But hey, if it's that important that
you somehow "win" this discussion, I conceded defeat.
--
Ray
Jon Miller
brass sides with steel everywhere else, and a wood box for the basic car
construction.
Jon Miller
sides. It might be Mantua as their very early stuff had paper sides with a
brass plate the sides were glued to. The gon looks a little like this type
of construction and might be Mantua also.
He got the name from the one package he had. That package might be the
couplers but I don't remember all the early couplers. It is possible that
the cars were copied from early US designs which would make the cars _just_
post war.
BleuR...@aol.com
> Still work two or three times a month fronting an acoustic Jazz band,
> still do occasional studio work, still teach, and still write -and
> sell- humor. (See example below.)
>
>
> Free hint: if you're going to try to insult someone it generally helps
> if the insult you're planning to use has at least some minimal,
> distant, connection with reality.
>
> ~Pete
>
> ~Pete
Well, thats 5 minutes I'll never get back.
David Nebenzahl
>> I guess we'll see what -if anything- happens.
>
Heh; I should probably write eBay customer support back and tell them
don't bother trying to figure out what this crazy sumbitch was trying to do.
Twibil
>
> >That's 42 years so far.
>
> And I've been in the biz for 50 this year.
Shouldn't you be better by now?
> Still doing my thing full time, mate.
Ah, I see. I was good enough to semi-retire at the age of 56.
> Over the years, I've worked in
> more than 30 countries. Is this "belly bucking" going to go on much
> longer? It's Friday night here and I've got a gig in 90 minutes.
Right. The nitwit calls me an amateur. And when I refute him with
facts, trys to claim that it's unprovoked boasting and bails out.
> >Free hint: if you're going to try to insult someone it generally helps
> >if the insult you're planning to use has at least some minimal,
> >distant, connection with reality.
>
> Thanks for the advice, amateur.
Sure thing, liar. (You *do* know that when you say something that you
*know* isn't true it's called a "lie", right? And that you don't gain
any self-respect by doing it?)
Oh well.
Twibil
Okay, I'll stop holding my gun to your head and forcing you to read my
posts, then.
~Pete
David Nebenzahl
> On May 8, 3:35 am, Ray Haddad <r...@perthmagic.com> wrote:
>>
>> >That's 42 years so far.
>>
>> And I've been in the biz for 50 this year.
>
> Shouldn't you be better by now?
Pete, you really should understand that Ray "Blowhard" Haddad really is
a consummate professional.
Why, he does several shows a week for selected audiences at
geriatric-care homes and other treatment facilities where he has the
crowds eating out of his hand. Literally.
He just needs to wipe the dribble off afterwards ...
Wolf K
There were also Japanese kits with the same construction materials and
techniques. I have a couple, which I will build Real Soon Now. Maybe I
can then sell them on eBay as Really Rare Trains. ;-)
cheers,
wolf k.
Ray Haddad
wrote:
>On May 8, 3:35�am, Ray Haddad <r...@perthmagic.com> wrote:
>>
>> >That's 42 years so far.
>>
>> And I've been in the biz for 50 this year.
>
>Shouldn't you be better by now?
But the joy of performing. It overpowers with its allure. I hope I
never get better. I want the Tommy Cooper way out of the biz.
>> Still doing my thing full time, mate.
>
>Ah, I see. I was good enough to semi-retire at the age of 56.
Oh, dear. Did your fans abandon you? And then above, you stated "so
far." Does that mean you're not really retired as you now claim?
>> Over the years, I've worked in
>> more than 30 countries. Is this "belly bucking" going to go on much
>> longer? It's Friday night here and I've got a gig in 90 minutes.
>
>Right. The nitwit calls me an amateur. And when I refute him with
>facts, trys to claim that it's unprovoked boasting and bails out.
Bail out? Mate, I had a gig. I'm back now. Do you even know what the
word gig means?
>> >Free hint: if you're going to try to insult someone it generally helps
>> >if the insult you're planning to use has at least some minimal,
>> >distant, connection with reality.
>>
>> Thanks for the advice, amateur.
>
>Sure thing, liar. (You *do* know that when you say something that you
>*know* isn't true it's called a "lie", right? And that you don't gain
>any self-respect by doing it?)
Comparing ages and amount of time in the biz was your idea. Based on
my experience being longer than yours, you are an amateur.
>Oh well.
The bottom line in all of this is you have no sense of humor. You
understand it, sure, but you have no sense of it. It's much the same
as this. You don't have to have cancer to understand cancer.
Understanding humor and then denying that an observation contained
humor shows me you have no real sense for it.
Read the book Eat, Shoots & Leaves. It'll give you some idea of humor
that is related to grammar and the English language. Maybe then you
won't get so upset over a comment that was humorous. Or was your upset
from the fact that I inadvertently hijacked your thread? Only you can
know the answer to that one, mate.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
<nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>On 5/8/2009 11:32 AM Twibil spake thus:
>
>> On May 8, 3:35 am, Ray Haddad <r...@perthmagic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >That's 42 years so far.
>>>
>>> And I've been in the biz for 50 this year.
>>
>> Shouldn't you be better by now?
>
>Pete, you really should understand that Ray "Blowhard" Haddad really is
>a consummate professional.
>
>Why, he does several shows a week for selected audiences at
>geriatric-care homes and other treatment facilities where he has the
>crowds eating out of his hand. Literally.
>
>He just needs to wipe the dribble off afterwards ...
Poor David.
--
Ray
Twibil
>
> >> And I've been in the biz for 50 this year.
>
> > Shouldn't you be better by now?
>
> Pete, you really should understand that Ray "Blowhard" Haddad really is
> a consummate professional.
Truth to tell, for all I know he may really be good at what he does.
But I got such a chuckle out of his "amateur" put-down that I gave him
quid pro quo to see what he'd do.
Alas, "oops" doesn't appear to be in his vocabulary.
~Pete
Ray Haddad
wrote:
>On May 8, 12:21�pm, David Nebenzahl <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
It's all relative is what I say. Like I mentioned earlier in another
post, you were the one who started comparing experiences. But I have a
better offer. Compared to most, you seem a civilized sort of fellow.
Shall we just bury this particular hatchet here and agree that your
idea of funny wasn't met without turning it into more rancor?
--
Ray
BleuR...@aol.com
With all that self build-up I actually thought it would be worth
reading.
In all your years I guess you never learned NOT to try and bullshit a
bullshitter ?
Reading you "comedy" makes me wonder if you know anything about
anything.
Tom
37029e...@d7g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/THREE-RARE-TETSUDO-MOKEI
At $21.95
Twibil
>
> With all that self build-up I actually thought it would be worth
> reading.
So you're blaming me for your own assumptions?
How much did you pay to get in?
> In all your years I guess you never learned NOT to try and bullshit a
> bullshitter ?
I wasn't bullshitting. In fact, I left a fair amount out. If you work
in show business for that many years you either build up a long
resume' or you starve to death.
> Reading you "comedy" makes me wonder if you know anything about
> anything.
Well, (A) I've been getting paid for writing humor for over 30 years
now, which means the folks with the money think I know quite a bit
about it, and nobody else's opinion counts unless they get paid a lot
more than I do for doing the same thing.
And (B) I know the difference between "you" and "your".
Twibil
> Twibil <nowayjo...@gmail.com> wrote in news:f41b9a99-b914-4f30-bb88-
> 37029efe2...@d7g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
>
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/THREE-RARE-TETSUDO-MOKEI
>
> At $21.95
Still high, but within the range of sanity.
I suspect somebody got a wake-up call from eBay.
~Pete
Special Agent Melvin Purvis
> � � On second though that boxcar isn't Athearn. �It appears to be paper
The couplers in one of the shots looked to be Mantua.
BleuR...@aol.com
I call BULLSHIT. I'm a high school band director and university
trained musician. I KNOW what a gig is and how easy it is to claim how
one gets paid, therefore, they are a professional.
You're not even a good bullshit artist, go put your waterwings on and
go back to the shallow end of the pool.
There's no accounting for that lame crap you call humor.
After 32 years of teaching, playing professionally and dealing with
YOUR type both in the 5 year old body and the 70 year old body, I can
say you are a waste of human existance.
PLEASE, take your childish bullshit somewhere else. No wonder so many
people dislike you.
You and Howdy Schmidt should be friends. You accountibality on any
subject has been tarnished by your example of humor.
So, exactly what decoder do you put in a Tyco Hustler ?
Thats about the limit of YOUR knowledge.
Let me go look up "asswipe" and take a look at your
photograph..........
David Nebenzahl
> On May 8, 7:30�pm, Twibil <nowayjo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On May 8, 2:33�pm, BleuRae...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> > With all that self build-up I actually thought it would be worth
>> > reading.
>>
>> So you're blaming me for your own assumptions?
>>
>> How much did you pay to get in?
>>
>> > In all your years I guess you never learned NOT to try and bullshit a
>> > bullshitter ?
>>
>> I wasn't bullshitting. In fact, I left a fair amount out. If you work
>> in show business for that many years you either build up a long
>> resume' or you starve to death.
... blah blah blah
Play nicely, children.
Wolf K
They are Japanese couplers.
BleuR...@aol.com
> On 5/8/2009 11:33 PM BleuRae...@aol.com spake thus:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Sorry, I got carried away.
David Nebenzahl
> On May 9, 2:05�am, David Nebenzahl <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>
>> On 5/8/2009 11:33 PM BleuRae...@aol.com spake thus:
>>
>> > On May 8, 7:30 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> On May 8, 2:33 pm, BleuRae...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> >> > With all that self build-up I actually thought it would be worth
>> >> > reading.
>>
>> >> So you're blaming me for your own assumptions?
>>
>> >> How much did you pay to get in?
>>
>> >> > In all your years I guess you never learned NOT to try and bullshit a
>> >> > bullshitter ?
>>
>> >> I wasn't bullshitting. In fact, I left a fair amount out. If you work
>> >> in show business for that many years you either build up a long
>> >> resume' or you starve to death.
>>
>> ... blah blah blah
>>
>> Play nicely, children.
>
> Sorry, I got carried away.
Hey, happens to the best of us. (I should know.)
Twibil
> On Fri, 8 May 2009 11:32:52 -0700 (PDT), Twibil <nowayjo...@gmail.com>
Twibil
>
> Let me go look up "asswipe" and take a look at your
> photograph..........
Thanks for that. It's a *wonderful* example of how people will type
things on Usenet that they'd never *dare* say face to face.
Ray Haddad
wrote:
>On May 8, 2:10�pm, Ray Haddad <r...@perthmagic.com> wrote:
Ray Haddad
See? I knew you were civilized. We agree completely on this matter.
--
Ray
BleuR...@aol.com
I would be HAPPY to tell you face to face. Just tell which NMRA
convention you will attend and we can make it a festive occasion, Mr.
Dipshit.
Banjo ? the only instrument considered more of a bastard instrument
than the C Melody Sax.
Go back to Dueling Banjos and leave the REAL musicians alone.
Let's take a poll in public. I'll meet you anywhere, anyplace ( in the
mainland 48 states ) at a NMRA convention and debate you on music
ANYDAY.
Gee, I've judged horor band auditions for over 30 years, guess that
makes me a judge ( since I was paid for it )
My bands have performed in the Macy's parade..............so I guess
I'm now a TV star ?
My my my, you still want to play this game ?
I may be an arrogant ass ( true to my nature ) but you sir, are
nothing but a BS artist, and a poor one at that. I'm 53 years old and
crippled from GBS and yet you question me about calling you out behind
a keyboard ? Put up or shut up Mister Expert.
Look up the word gonads and get back to me.
BleuR...@aol.com
> On Sun, 10 May 2009 00:15:18 -0700 (PDT), Twibil
>
> >On May 8, 11:33�pm, BleuRae...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >> Let me go look up "asswipe" and take a look at your
> >> photograph..........
>
> >Thanks for that. It's a *wonderful* example of how people will type
> >things on Usenet that they'd never *dare* say face to face.
>
> See? I knew you were civilized. We agree completely on this matter.
> --
> Ray
I'll be more than happy to say it to his face.
Ray Haddad
>I may be an arrogant ass ( true to my nature ) but you sir, are
>nothing but a BS artist, and a poor one at that. I'm 53 years old and
>crippled from GBS and yet you question me about calling you out behind
>a keyboard?
Oh, my goodness. It's a geriatric belly bucking contest. Glad I'm
sitting this one out.
--
Ray
BleuR...@aol.com
> On Sun, 10 May 2009 03:25:27 -0700 (PDT), BleuRae...@aol.com wrote:
> >I may be an arrogant ass ( true to my nature ) but you sir, are
> >nothing but a BS artist, and a poor one at that. �I'm 53 years old and
> >crippled from GBS and yet you question me about calling you out behind
> >a keyboard?
>
> Oh, my goodness. It's a geriatric belly bucking contest. Glad I'm
> sitting this one out.
> --
> Ray
Ray, come on in, the waters FINE.
The difference between Mister Expert and me is the fact that I realise
I'm an ass.
He feels he's somewhat important the big picture.
Maybe I'll just send one of my students to embarass him.....errr, I
mean Mister Professional.
After years of feeling sorry about how people picked on
him..........he managed to strike a nerve.
And by the way, I've had people pay me real money to build their
layouts, I guess that makes me a "professional" model
railroader.....................BAHAHAHAHA
Yea, right. shuuuuuure
LD
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On May 10, 2:15�am, Twibil <nowayjo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 11:33�pm, BleuRae...@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > Let me go look up "asswipe" and take a look at your
> > photograph..........
>
> Thanks for that. It's a *wonderful* example of how people will type
> things on Usenet that they'd never *dare* say face to face.
I would be HAPPY to tell you face to face. Just tell which NMRA
convention you will attend and we can make it a festive occasion, Mr.
Dipshit.
Banjo ? the only instrument considered more of a bastard instrument
than the C Melody Sax.
Go back to Dueling Banjos and leave the REAL musicians alone.
Let's take a poll in public. I'll meet you anywhere, anyplace ( in the
mainland 48 states ) at a NMRA convention and debate you on music
ANYDAY.
Gee, I've judged horor band auditions for over 30 years, guess that
makes me a judge ( since I was paid for it )
My bands have performed in the Macy's parade..............so I guess
I'm now a TV star ?
My my my, you still want to play this game ?
I may be an arrogant ass
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You've removed all about that - and more ...
David Nebenzahl
So what the hell does that mean? Nothing.
Of course people write things here they'd never say to someone's face.
Same thing with writing letters: people say things on the telephone
they'd never say in person. (I've done it.) So fucking what?
BleuR...@aol.com
> <BleuRae...@aol.com> wrote in message
Did you mean to say "you've removed all doubt about that-and more " ?
Ray Haddad
That, your sig and your tag line sum up your existence pretty well.
How very sad for you.
--
Ray
David Nebenzahl
> That, your sig and your tag line sum up your existence pretty well.
>
> How very sad for you.
Shouldn't you be doing some lame "magic" tricks for some brain-dead
audience?
Ray Haddad
<nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>On 5/10/2009 3:08 PM Ray Haddad spake thus:
>
>> That, your sig and your tag line sum up your existence pretty well.
>>
>> How very sad for you.
>
>Shouldn't you be doing some lame "magic" tricks for some brain-dead
>audience?
Get in line.
--
Ray
David Nebenzahl
Ah, so you admit your "magic" is lame. I give you credit for that.
Twibil
>
> >> Let me go look up "asswipe" and take a look at your
> >> photograph..........
>
> > Thanks for that. It's a *wonderful* example of how people will type
> > things on Usenet that they'd never *dare* say face to face.
>
> So what the hell does that mean? Nothing.
No, it means a lot.
But only if you have a sense of honor.
Twibil
>
> > Thanks for that. It's a *wonderful* example of how people will type
> > things on Usenet that they'd never *dare* say face to face.
>
> I would be HAPPY to tell you face to face. Just tell which NMRA
> convention you will attend and we can make it a festive occasion, Mr.
> Dipshit.
Next time I go to one I'll be sure and let you know.
> Banjo ? the only instrument considered more of a bastard instrument
> than the C Melody Sax.
BUAHHAHAHA! You think you can insult a type of *instrument* and hurt
someone's feelings? Wow!
I'm a guitarist/luthier who also builds and plays mandlolins,
mandolas, various banjos, autoharps, and most other things with frets.
(If you're going to work on them and know what you're doing, you
pretty much *have* to know how to play 'em at an expert level, and
yes, that includes banjos.)
But unless you're Bella Fleck or Earl Scruggs it's pretty much
impossible to earn a living with a banjo -much less a *good* living.
So thanks for the complement but I don't think of myself a banjo
player: just a musician.
> Go back to Dueling Banjos and leave the REAL musicians alone.
Right. Along with the REAL model railroaders, the REAL conservatives,
the REAL liberals, the REAL motorcyclists, and all the rest of the
REAL online doofi who think they're qualified to judge who's REAL and
who isn't. (Oddly enough, they always begin with the premise that they
themselves are REAL and that the people they dislike are NOT; so their
judgements can pretty much be discounted on grounds of self-interest,
if not irrationality.)
> Let's take a poll in public. I'll meet you anywhere, anyplace ( in the
> mainland 48 states ) at a NMRA convention and debate you on music
> ANYDAY.
"Poll"? "Debate"?
I'm a musician. I "play" music, not "debate" it, and I've never seen
*any* musician "poll" an audiance.
> Gee, I've judged horor band auditions for over 30 years, guess that
> makes me a judge ( since I was paid for it )
Freudian slip. FUNNY Freudian slip.
> My bands have performed in the Macy's parade..............so I guess
> I'm now a TV star ?
>
> My my my, you still want to play this game ?
>
> I may be an arrogant ass
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> You've removed all about that - and more ...
Poor baby.
But let's just take a look at the evidence, shall we?
Go back and look at the threads I've started here in the past:
painting semi-impressionist backdrops, restoring cheap brass locos,
getting around eBay's Paypal requirements, yadda-yadda-yadda, and note
that with the exception of one question about DCC they have *all* been
attempts to share useful useful or entertaining information with
others who may be interested.
In my judgement that's what Usenet's *for*. To help others if you can
and to share ideas.
Now note something else about those threads: in just about every one
there have been one or more doofi who've posted not to help or add
useful input, but to rage about how wrong I am, to claim that *their*
ideas are much better, and to do so just as impolitely as they can.
(Why they failed to originate their own threads with their own ideas
in the first place, and why they feel compelled to attack anyone else
whose ideas differ from their own rather than just politely say
"here's hows I do that" is an exercise best left to the imagination.)
But it seems this crowd exists mainly to criticise, and you -
significantly- have been right up there among the loudest leaders of
that band.
And in that spirit another poster here emailed me privately not long
ago saying, "Jeeze! You spent your time writing something useful and
those _______s do nothing but attack you for it!" And as I thought to
myself as I read it; "Yup. Pegged it in one."
As I've said here before and I'll probably have to say again: If
another poster treats me decently I'll return the favor. And if he
flames me I'll probably return *that* favor too, so if you don't care
for my posts there's probably a good reason for it, and you'll likely
see it the next time you shave.
BleuR...@aol.com
To sum it up for you, I just hate when people toot their own horn and
yet don't understand what intonation means.
It doesn't take a "master" player on an instrument to repair it, you
just need to know all the fingerings. ( I know, I repair most
woodwinds and brass and yet I'm just a hack ) Knowing the mechanics of
playing an instrument and being a musician are not the same.
I'm sure you can hold your own in some circles. It was the manner in
which you "proclaimed" your artistry in several fields and yet showed
such a poor example of humor as your proof that set me off. YOU were
the one who proclaimed it, no one else.
If thats what you need in life to make you happy ? Then by all
means, you are a "master".
May you now rest in peace at night. I'm very sorry for interupting
your dream.
As far as humor? This post was your best joke yet. Please, keep them
coming.
I believe it was you who stated that you have fronted several bands.
Of course you know the difference between those bands and a moose ?
On a moose, the horns are in front and the ass is in the
back......................................
LD
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On May 10, 12:52 pm, "LD" <lobby.dos...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for that. It's a *wonderful* example of how people will type
> > things on Usenet that they'd never *dare* say face to face.
>
> I would be HAPPY to tell you face to face. Just tell which NMRA
> convention you will attend and we can make it a festive occasion, Mr.
> Dipshit.
Next time I go to one I'll be sure and let you know.
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This shows as a reply to me. Not, I think, what you meant.
David Nebenzahl
> Banjo ? the only instrument considered more of a bastard instrument
> than the C Melody Sax.
>
> Go back to Dueling Banjos and leave the REAL musicians alone.
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What's the difference between a banjo and a chain saw?
The chain saw has greater dynamic range.
What's the difference between a banjo and a South American Macaw?
One is loud, obnoxious, and noisy; and the other is a bird.
What's the difference between a banjo and a Harley Davidson?
You can tune a Harley.
What's the difference between a banjo and an onion?
No one cries when you cut up a banjo.
What's the difference between a banjo and a trampoline?
You take your shoes off to jump on a trampoline.
What is the definition of perfect pitch?
Throwing a banjo into a dumpster without hitting the rim.
What's the difference between a banjo and an Uzi?
An Uzi only repeats forty times.
What's the least-used sentence in the English language?
"Isn't that the banjo player's Porsche?"
What do you say to a banjo player in a three-piece suit?
"Will the defendant please rise?"
What did the banjo player get on his IQ (or SAT) test?
Drool.
How can you tell if the stage is level?
If the banjo player drools out of both sides of his mouth.
What's the difference between a skunk run over on the road and a banjo
player run over on the road?
You see skid marks in front of the skunk.
What's the difference between a run over skunk and a run-over banjo player?
The skunk was on its way to a gig.
Why are banjos better than guitars?
They burn longer (and make all kinds of cool popping noises as they
burn).
Why do some people take an instant aversion to banjo players?
It saves time in the long run.
What should you do if you run over a banjo?
Back up.
When do banjo songs sound the best?
When they're over.
I got a million of 'em ...
Ray Haddad
<nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>On 5/10/2009 4:40 PM Ray Haddad spake thus:
>
>> On Sun, 10 May 2009 15:27:02 -0700, David Nebenzahl
>> <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>>
>>>On 5/10/2009 3:08 PM Ray Haddad spake thus:
>>>
>>>> That, your sig and your tag line sum up your existence pretty well.
>>>>
>>>> How very sad for you.
>>>
>>>Shouldn't you be doing some lame "magic" tricks for some brain-dead
>>>audience?
>>
>> Get in line.
>
>Ah, so you admit your "magic" is lame. I give you credit for that.
No sir. I simply grant you credit for admitting you are brain dead.
--
Ray
David Nebenzahl
Sheesh. Even your insults are lame.
This is no longer fun.
--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism
Ray Haddad
<nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>On 5/11/2009 6:17 AM Ray Haddad spake thus:
>
>> On Sun, 10 May 2009 18:19:24 -0700, David Nebenzahl
>> <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>>
>>>On 5/10/2009 4:40 PM Ray Haddad spake thus:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 10 May 2009 15:27:02 -0700, David Nebenzahl
>>>> <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 5/10/2009 3:08 PM Ray Haddad spake thus:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That, your sig and your tag line sum up your existence pretty well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How very sad for you.
>>>>>
>>>>>Shouldn't you be doing some lame "magic" tricks for some brain-dead
>>>>>audience?
>>>>
>>>> Get in line.
>>>
>>>Ah, so you admit your "magic" is lame. I give you credit for that.
>>
>> No sir. I simply grant you credit for admitting you are brain dead.
>
>Sheesh. Even your insults are lame.
>
>This is no longer fun.
Ah, he runs out of steam and coasts to a stop conceding defeat.
I acknowledge and accept your humble surrender. Begone.
--
Ray
LD
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ROTFL!!
Thanks!
Steve Caple
>> I got a million of 'em ...
>>
>
> ROTFL!!
> Thanks!
If you think banjos get no respect, you ought to see what they say about
violas . . .
--
Steve
David Nebenzahl
... not to mention accordions, sopranos, tubas, etc.
What's the difference between a viola and a violin?
The viola burns longer.
What's the difference between a viola and a coffin?
The coffin has the dead person on the inside.
What's the difference between a seamstress and a violist?
The seamstress tucks up the frills.
Although, as a violinist I have to say the best viola joke is actually a
violin joke:
Did you know that a violin and a viola are actually exactly the same
size? It's just that violinists' heads are so much larger.
BleuR...@aol.com
You ought to see what they say about band directors and conductors,
oboes and lead trumpets.
LD
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Can either of you play "Lady of Spain" or "Melancholy Baby"?
Steve Caple
> Can either of you play "Lady of Spain" or "Melancholy Baby"?
Accordions don't play "Lady of Spain", people do!
--
Steve
David Nebenzahl
> <BleuR...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
>> You ought to see what they say about band directors and conductors,
>> oboes and lead trumpets.
>
> Can either of you play "Lady of Spain" or "Melancholy Baby"?
Funny thing about accordians; while the instrument has a uniformly
cheesy reputation in the U.S. (or else is used snarkily by ironic punk
musicians), it's quite a different story in other parts of the world
(you mean there is actually culture *outside* of the United States???).
I used to be in a band that plays Eastern European and Balkan music
(music of Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and countries of the former
Yugoslavia). There, the accordian is an integral and essential part of
the music (well, at least the folk and older popular music that *we*
played; younger folks there listen to the same crap they do here). And
not just as accompianment. It's one of the most expressive instruments
there; hard to believe for something that simply makes a continuous
sound, without vibrato or other effects possible. The players there
ornament just about every note, with trills, turns, little blips and
catches. A virtuoso Balkan accordianist is something to behold,
especially the Bulgarians and even more especially the Serbs, who play
button accordians rather than the piano-key type.
Ray Haddad
<nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>I used to be in a band that plays Eastern European and Balkan music
That explains a lot.
--
Ray
Steve Caple
Okay, back to cramming for your animal husbandry test - don't wanna get
tossed out of Oz.
--
Steve
Ray Haddad
And along comes 'Brokeback-Boxcar' Caple. Wondered when you'd show up.
--
Ray
David Nebenzahl
You're not wanted 'round here, "mate". Shove off.
Ray Haddad
<nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>On 5/12/2009 11:43 PM Ray Haddad spake thus:
>
>> On Tue, 12 May 2009 23:35:36 -0700, Steve Caple
>> <steve...@commoncast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 13 May 2009 05:58:13 +0800, Ray Haddad wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 12 May 2009 14:28:43 -0700, David Nebenzahl
>>>> <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I used to be in a band that plays Eastern European and Balkan music
>>>>
>>>> That explains a lot.
>>>
>>>Okay, back to cramming for your animal husbandry test - don't wanna get
>>>tossed out of Oz.
>>
>> And along comes 'Brokeback-Boxcar' Caple. Wondered when you'd show up.
>
>You're not wanted 'round here, "mate". Shove off.
No. But thanks for asking.
Does this mean you revoke your concession and surrender?
--
Ray
David Nebenzahl
Getting the last word in != proving your stupid assertions.
Now go on and get the last word in, "mate".
Greg.Procter
Yes, he can do something cultural, unlike you.
Regards,
Greg.P.
Greg.Procter
Nobody gets tossed out of Oz - well, they consider anyone with Aboriginary
or Asian ancestry to be nobody. Eay should be ok.
Greg.P.
NZ
Twibil
>
> I used to be in a band that plays Eastern European and Balkan music
> (music of Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and countries of the former
> Yugoslavia).
There's a joke about that.
An American big-band hires a new guitatist who's only recently
emigrated to the US from the Balkans, and the band leader asks him if
he thinks he can fit into a band that plays entirely American
material.
The guitarist says "Sure! Just give me the downbeat on the one and the
thirteen!"
(Probably not funny if you're not a musician...)
~Pete
Ray Haddad
<pro...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:58:13 +1200, Ray Haddad <r...@perthmagic.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 12 May 2009 14:28:43 -0700, David Nebenzahl
>> <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>>
>>> I used to be in a band that plays Eastern European and Balkan music
>>
>> That explains a lot.
>
>Yes, he can do something cultural, unlike you.
But you know nothing of culture. You're not qualified. Just because
you've tasted yogurt doesn't mean you understand culture, mate.
--
Ray
David Nebenzahl
> There's a joke about that.
>
> An American big-band hires a new guitatist who's only recently
> emigrated to the US from the Balkans, and the band leader asks him if
> he thinks he can fit into a band that plays entirely American
> material.
>
> The guitarist says "Sure! Just give me the downbeat on the one and the
> thirteen!"
>
> (Probably not funny if you're not a musician...)
Heh. Not bad.
Looking through some of the music we used to play, I see one piece, a
Bulgarian dance (Smeseno Horo) in 33 (no shit!):
2+2+2+2+3+2+2+3+3+3+2+3+2+2. (Since it's basically all 2s and 3s, Balkan
musicians don't really need to be able to count past 3. And many can't.)
Most of them are a lot simpler: many in 7 (rachenitsa: 3+2+2), 5
(paidushko: 2+3) or 9 (2+2+2+3 or 2+2+3+2).
Greg.Procter
OK Ray, we'll take yoghurt as the example:
- I make my own yoghurt.
- This one will shock you: yoghurt made properly does not include
sugar or imitation fruit flavourings.
BTW, yes I am qualified in some aspects of culture, having studied
it at university and having lived and experienced it first-hand
for much of my life.
Regards,
Greg.P.
LD
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Virtually everyone on the planet can say they've lived it - All of their
life.
Krypsis
Depends on the culture you've lived within. If, for example, you live in
the US, then you can say you experienced US culture first hand. However,
regardless of how much of it you lived, you may not be able to define
US culture. University study + life does not make you an expert by any
means. You need to experience OTHER cultures, become immersed in them,
compare them to your own. Once you have a decent comparative base and
have analysed your own culture within a world context, then you can call
yourself qualified.
Krypsis
Greg.Procter
Well, yes, but I hope I haven't lived _all_ my life just yet, I have some
projects I'd like to finish =8^O
Greg.Procter
On that basis I might well qualify, but I still consider myself a beginner.
I can't imagine in what Ray can consider himself to be superior, other than
in ignorance stakes.
Regards,
Greg.P.
BleuR...@aol.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Not quite since there are so many different cultures just within the
United States.
Growing up and living most of my life in New Orleans is nothing like
the year I spent in Tampa or any of the 100's of cities and towns I've
visited in the US.
However, the week I spent in Montreal was the closest "I've" felt to
New Orleans.
LD
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If all it takes is unfinished projects, I've got another 66! :o)
LD
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To what?