HO water
JaiJEF
Sorry.
Which is better looking Woodland Scenics REALISTIC water or the Envirotex
stuff?
WHich is easier to use?
thank you in advance
Jai...@aol.com
Howard R Garner
OLDFARHT
the fact that nothing looks worse than dusty water. Most types of scenery will
tolerate dust fairly well between once or twice a year cleanings as long as it
isn't disturbed, but dusty water looks terrible. I finally took out my lake
after years of wasting excessive time keeping it clean.
Walt
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Walt, what about flowing rivers?
I am starting an N Scale layout in an 11.5' x 5' alcove, it will be an "M"
shape.
The line is the Credit Valley Railway in southern Ontario circa 1885 (may
proto lance it to 1900-1915).
The line followed the Credit River north from Toronto to Orangeville through
Caledon.
My trackplan calls for the river to flow on and off the layout 4 times. See
trackplan on "layout" page of my website.
The river flows from north to south. Starting in the back right corner of
the layout, three small tributaries come down, join and exit out the top of
the second arc in the "M". It comes back onto the center leg about hwlfway
down the arc, flows down to the end of the leg and off the layout. It then
flows back on the front of the same arc (36" wide) on the left side this
time, goes over a 2" falls, is joined by another branch, rounds the inside
of the first arch is joined by a second branch there and flows out the front
of the first arch (top center). comes back on the layout, halfway down the
arch and meanders across the first leg and exits on the extreme left of the
layout.
There are a total of 8 RR crosings on the river, including a large trestle
at "The Forks Of The Credit" the top of the first arc, it will be 6" above
the river and be the entire 90 degree span of a 15" radius curve (N Scale).
I was wondering if this would be a problem, or how to over come it and make
the river look real? I will be looking for a website or reference source for
model rivers.
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Will
HO - Credit Valley Railway
www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm
Daniel A. Mitchell
the best result relative to the effort and 'side effects'.
Many have problems with the WS 'Realistic' water product, it's simple
to use, but results are variable at best.
Other plastic resins may also work well (like Castolite SG), but have a
stronger and more obnoxious odor than Envirotex. All the resins lose
most of their odor once they set up, but some can give off VERY
annoying, and possibly unsafe, chemical vapors in their liquid state.
Envirotex does too, but perhaps at 20% of the level of some others. It
smells sort of 'musty' when liquid. Not great, but not really nasty
either. Provide ventilation for perhaps a day after the 'pour'. If you
use any 'other' resin, provide COPIOUS ventilation.
There are also sheet glass and plexiglas techniques, painted and
textured plaster, real water (probably the very WORST choice, except for
garden layouts), and perhaps others.
Dan Mitchell
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Larry Blanchard
says...
> There are also sheet glass and plexiglas techniques, painted and
> textured plaster, real water (probably the very WORST choice, except for
> garden layouts), and perhaps others.
>
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Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
Rick Stern
I first painted the bottom of the lake a slightly bluish black, feathering
that out to the scenery color near the edges (using air brush). Then
several layers of Envirotex. You don't want to lay a thick layer of
Envirotex at one time -- I hear it tends to curl in thick layers.
There is a scenery group on the Yahoo groups network. They seem to prefer a
product called "Modge Podge", which is sort of like a thick acrylic gloss
medium. The advantage is it doesn't dry totally level, and so can be worked
to give the appearance of ripples and waves. However, I've found that for
large areas of still water it didn't cure well and I had to cover it with
plaster and re-lay the lake (using Envirotex). However, top be honest, the
appearance of the Envirotex bothers me a bit -- from an angle (with the
color of the bottom) it looks great but viewed straight on it doesn't appear
deep enough. I am thinking about brushing on ModPodge on top to give it
more ripply appearance, but haven't got the nerve to mess with something
that looks pretty good already.
You can use dyes to color the water, but go very easy on the blues and
greens. But I'd suggest getting some of the transluscent dyes (not
transparent) to give more appearance of depth. Use the "pearl" color for
this. Use yellows ini shallow or muddy areas. I probably could have used
the transluscent rather than the transparent dyes.
For the rivers, I've used casting resin (like Envirotex) in small puddles.
This stuff loves to flow, however. It's sort of like a turtle -- doesn't
move fast but moves continuouslyl. If there is a way for it to get out of
whatever basin it's enclosed in (small hole, for example), it will leak. Be
absolutely sure your "containment area" is sealed.
I will use the ModPodge on top of Envirotex for river riffles. I've also
used clear calk to seal up sections of the river so the Envirotex didn't
flow down (and out) of the river onto the floor. You can also take the
calk, spread it on wax paper with your finger, then lift it off when dry and
use it as waterfall.
I suggest you built a "test" lake/river in a mixing tub, color it and put in
the water material, to try different techniques and see what works for you.
I hope some of this helps.
Rick
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