Canadian National Liveries
Andrew Emery
Dear All,
As a newcomer to Canadian/Canadien National, and living across the
Atlantic, can anyone spare a moment to advise me on a couple of colour
scheme dayes, as I have no reference books yet?
1.When did the olive green diesel livery end?
2.When did the 'noodle' come-in?
3.When did the black and white zebra stripes start?
4.And were they always with red cabs?
Many thanks to all who reply.
Andrew Emery
Wales
Martin-Eric Racine
On 13 May 1997 01:19:12, Andrew Emery wrote:
# Dear All,
#
# As a newcomer to Canadian/Canadien National, and living across the
# Atlantic, can anyone spare a moment to advise me on a couple of colour
# scheme dayes, as I have no reference books yet?
#
# 1.When did the olive green diesel livery end?
In 1961, with the introduction of the wet-noodle scheme.
# 2.When did the 'noodle' come-in?
1961, on GP9 unit CN 4563
# 3.When did the black and white zebra stripes start?
1961 on passenger units (FP7);
1973 on freight units (GP38-2W 5560 & up, & M420 2500 & up)
# 4.And were they always with red cabs?
Since 1961, red-orange has been used on cabs, but depending on
which paint scheme, were located either on cab ends and hood
ends, or since 1973, on the whole cab except the roof. Rebuilt
chopped nose GP9 reverted to red-orange on cab ends only, until
the CN North America scheme starting in 1993, where the whole
cab is red-orange again, with an angular excess on the hood.
# Many thanks to all who reply.
# Andrew Emery
# Wales
#
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John Sheridan
Andrew Emery wrote:
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> Dear All,
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> As a newcomer to Canadian/Canadien National, and living across the
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> Wales
Give the following URL a try: http://www.lpdpub.bc.ca
This is the site for LPD publishing. Don Lewis has covered all of the
Canadian roads in his series of books. They're a must for any serious
canadian modeler.
And of course, Microscale has the decals for just about every canadian
road. (shameless plug)
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Reg Neale
Martin-Eric Racine (q-f...@REMOVE.ANTI.SPAM.FIRST.megacom.net) writes:
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> # 4.And were they always with red cabs?
>
> Since 1961, red-orange has been used on cabs, but depending on
> which paint scheme, were located either on cab ends and hood
> ends, or since 1973, on the whole cab except the roof. Rebuilt
> chopped nose GP9 reverted to red-orange on cab ends only, until
> the CN North America scheme starting in 1993, where the whole
> cab is red-orange again, with an angular excess on the hood.
>
One minor addition: Remanufactured units, including the chopped
nose GP9RM's, SW1200RM's and SW1200RSm had black cabs with red-
orange on both the front and rear of the cab. The only
exceptions to this were the first two SW1200RM's (7300 and 7301,
subsequently renumbered 7100 and 7101), which had their cab
fronts painted black apparently in error.
Reg Neale
Martin-Eric Racine
On 13 May 1997 08:48:52, John Sheridan wrote:
# Andrew Emery wrote:
#
# > As a newcomer to Canadian/Canadien National, and living across the
# > Atlantic, can anyone spare a moment to advise me on a couple of colour
# > scheme dayes, as I have no reference books yet?
#
# Give the following URL a try: http://www.lpdpub.bc.ca
#
# This is the site for LPD publishing. Don Lewis has covered all of the
# Canadian roads in his series of books. They're a must for any serious
# canadian modeler.
Most of this Rail Canada series is accurate, HOWEVER, the recent
Rail America (covering CN subisidiaries and newer paint schemes)
is far from accurate in many aspects. After looking through one
friend's copy, I decided that despite a few rare photos, it was
simply too sketchy to warrant purchasing such an expansive book.
# And of course, Microscale has the decals for just about every canadian
# road. (shameless plug)
ROTFL! ;-)
Geoff....@logicbbs.org
In article of 1:19 Aame in in 1961. Of course, many locomotives remained in
the old colours for some time after that.
>3.When did the black and white zebra stripes start?
They were present from the very beginning on cab units, but only added to
the hood units after comfort cabs were introduced in 1973.
>4.And were they always with red cabs?
Until 1973, only the two ends were red on hood units. When comfort cabs
were introduced that year, the cabs were painted red, and the wet noodle
logo disappeared from the sides and was relaced by diagonal stripes.
Geoff
tgr...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Martin-Eric Racine (q-f...@REMOVE.ANTI.SPAM.FIRST.megacom.net) wrote:
: Most of this Rail Canada series is accurate, HOWEVER, the recent
: Rail America (covering CN subisidiaries and newer paint schemes)
: is far from accurate in many aspects. After looking through one
: friend's copy, I decided that despite a few rare photos, it was
: simply too sketchy to warrant purchasing such an expansive book.
Edmonton On Track (URL below) has an errata list for Rail America Vol 1.
Check the Railway Books section, Rail America Vol 1 -- more details .
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###### |\^/| Timothy C. Green, CD, PEng, MEng
###### _|\| |/|_ Roadmaster, Edmonton On Track
###### > < http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/trains
###### >_./|\._< t.g...@ieee.org tgr...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Andy Cowan
Andrew Emery <vg...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>Dear All,
>As a newcomer to Canadian/Canadien National, and living across the
>Atlantic, can anyone spare a moment to advise me on a couple of colour
>scheme dayes, as I have no reference books yet?
>1.When did the olive green diesel livery end?
>2.When did the 'noodle' come-in?
>3.When did the black and white zebra stripes start?
>4.And were they always with red cabs?
> Many thanks to all who reply.
> Andrew Emery
> Wales
Hello Andrew,
Why not join CNet. This is a mailing list devoted to Canadian National
Railroad. The people on this list hold a wealth of knowledge and any
CN related question can be answered by them.
To subscribe send a message to list...@crcvms.unl.edu and as the body
of the message put "SUBSCRIBE CNET YOUR NAME" WITHOUT the
quotation marks.
Hope this helps.
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Andy Cowan
Pembroke Ontario
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