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Chas

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Thanks again to Ben Ford in Australia-
http://www.artimarziali.org/articoli/Art_2001_04_03.htm
I don't read Italian, so if anyone works out a translation, I'd like to see
it.
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Kallini

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On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:23:07 GMT, Chas <gryp...@home.com> wrote:

>Thanks again to Ben Ford in Australia-
>http://www.artimarziali.org/articoli/Art_2001_04_03.htm
>I don't read Italian, so if anyone works out a translation, I'd like to see
>it.

Courtesy of Altavista's Babelfish:


Pentjak-Silat

To the roots of

PUKULAN SERAK

text and photo of Roberto Bonomelli


A world-wide exclusive right: we have met the heir of the deadliest
indonesiano style, master Harry J. de Vries. The 5 and 6 May will be
in Italy for one stage

Secret martial " limbs ". Expert of great value of the all disowned
ones. Disciples of a method whom they far away practice from
indiscreet eyes. Of forehead to these arguments we show rather of
being skeptical. But in the heart, if our passion is guided from a
little romanticismo, it is alive the hope that all that can still
exist.

I can say that he exists. I have met the heir of a handed on art of
father in son and to little friends of family. To know master Harry
James de Vries has been like immergersi by now in a world scomparso.

Arenas do not exist. The garden or the stay is the place for the
practical one. Nothing belts or uniform. Practical therefore as it has
been dressed in that moment. Nobody suspects what happens in that
house. The execution of techniques and djurus (shapes) alternate to
the unmistakable sapore of the kopie tobruk (a typical indonesiano
coffee). The practical one is informal but vigono the laws not written
of adat and hormat (the respect second the indonesiana tradition). It
must be introduced for potervi approaching. In fact, therefore it has
been. The friend Olivier Blancquaert has introduced to me to house of
master de Vries. They have entered in the clan of the pukulan serak .

Uncle Harry extension to Roberto Bonomelli the characteristics style
of the family de Vries, that it has been maintained for many years...
a true Close-Door-System " secret "

Generally one refers to us to the indonesiana and malese martial art
with pentjak-silat . In the Hindu community, that is Hindu-Dutch, the
term pukulan ( pukul means to hit) instead that more is employed. The
imported styles of combat in Europe from the sons of the Dutch
colonizzatori (to which were recognized the citizenship of the Low
Countries) risentono of the guerriera mentality of those times. " The
old " way to mean the art of fighting is rather far away from how much
is today the silat sport. Here because the suffisso pukulan in front
of the name of the style it emphasizes the emphasis for hitting, cioé
the combat more than the artistic aspect. If then we speak about serak
about the family de Vries, all the Hindu community of pentjak-silat
the extension a great respect. This has had to the value of its
representatives, comprised the last generation, and to how much they
have known to demonstrate. Although that the clan of the serak has
always maintained one sure confidentiality.

If in the years Sixty Paul de Thouars, disciple of John de Vries, were
not emigrated in the States and subsequently become one of teaching of
the famous Dan Inosanto, probably today not there would be therefore
interest for the pukulan serak .

" Incredibly sophisticated E'. The entire system is based on the
maximum destructive rendering with the minimal effort. Many systems
are constructed on the power or the speed. The serak it is all
fineness, physics and acquaintance of the anatomy, in like comes
directed the energy, she is not based on the force or the speed, and
is practically imbattibile. The techniques of intrapppolamento with
the hands are like minimum equivalents to those of the wing-chun, the
movement job and the angle-shot of the body exceeds whichever method
abundantly... ", this is how much has asserted master Dan Inosanto,
disciple of Bruce Lee and world-wide authority of the kali-escrima.
The master American, but of Philippine origin, is one of the greatest
promotori of the martial limbs of the Asian South-east. Thanks to its
seminaries all over the world, beyond to jeet-kune-I give, kali,
shoot-wrestling, the fans have been able to appreciate the
effectiveness of the serak.

Someone of the jkd would have helped this style to emerge from the
lights soffuse... E' like if this had been written from the destiny,
because the same Bruce Lee, in continuous search of " the truth ", had
a correspondence with a master of pentjak-silat, than but did not
succeed to know of person. He be a matter himself of William Reeders,
anch' Hindu it emigrated in the USA and student of Ernest " Ventje "
de Vries.

One what is sure, also Bruce Lee would be remained fascinated from the
scientificità of this art. The aggressiveness of the attack, the
continuity of action and the economy of the movements are
philosophically in tune with the garnishments of jeet-kune-give.

Sundanese Serak in dialetto (Western Giava) means " voice rauca ", but
it is also the name of its founding leggendario. They are not given to
us historical that tries the existence of Pak Serak. And not even if
this feared practicing of pentjak-silat, than the oral tradition it
wants lacking in the use of an arm and of a leg, it was indeed a
member of the Badui tribe. For hour nobody can assert with certainty
that it made part of this enigmatic ethnic group, that always it has
lived isolated from the modern cività and is popular in all Indonesia
for its healers or sciamani.

One what is sure: the serak it is the product more giavanesi styles.
The vicinanza to the cimande ( tjimande ) is technically visible. This
style is considered the original art of many schools of the western
region of the island. It remains however difficult to establish if the
serak it has been influenced from the cimande or viceversa.

An other firm point is Mas Djut, disciple of Pak Serak. Probably it
was one sciamano and great traveller. Perhaps it was also a Badui.
During its life end in Borneo was pushed, but it is in a quarter of
Batavia, the old Dutch name of the indonesiana Capital (Giacarta),
that it taught its art to the family de Vries. The engagement to
continue the tradition of the serak had been offered to Johan de
Vries, a missionary Hindu-Dutch, that it preferred to leave this
important inheritance to its grandsons, John and Ernest. It was
therefore that the young people de Vries studied directly with Mas
Djut. In the family of the pukulan serak John de Vries like the
technician and Ernest de Vries remember, Ventje " saying ", like the
combatant, the fighter of the school. Both, as they made much Hindu,
emigrated in Holland.

John died in 1972 to Amsterdam. The disciple who collected the
inheritance of its school was Paul de Thouars, become related with the
family of serak (the its mother, Suzanne, is cousins of John de
Vries). Emigrated in California, master de Thouars has begun to teach
to the style of popular family rendendolo in the community American
(the review Black Belt has dedicated the cover to it of the number of
june of the 1965!). In 1985, Paul de Thouars has created a its
personal style. The bukti negara he comes considered " Baby Serak ",
that is one reduced version of the immense original style. In 1995 I
met pendekar Paul in its academy, to the periphery of Los Angeles.
What it hit to me was the sympathy with which relaziona to anyone and
the opposing corpulenti magic that it gives off when it projects to
earth.

Its siblings emigrated in the States have studied serak with he.
Victor and Willem have then founded of the own schools. Tongkat is the
system of Victor de Thouars, while kun lun pairs are the synthesis of
the experiences of Willem de Thouars in kuntao (the Chinese art
therefore like come conceived in Indonesia) and the silat . Only the
brother remained in the Old Continent, Maurice, has continued to
maintain the original line of the pukulan serak that it has learned
directly from Ventje de Vries and also from John.

To its dead women, happened in 1983, master Ventje has had a worthy
successor in its Dolf son. New " the great head " of the serak soon
has earned the role of its father, feared and respected in all the
Dutch community of the pentjak-silat. Varied guru of other styles,
also rather famous, they have tried the pukulan fulmineo of Dolf. "
When I began to practice with Dolf I thought that it would have
facilitated to me in how much are its brother... after the first
lesson I became account that I was mistaking myself ", told Harry to
me de Vries with a light in the eyes that difficultly can be seen in
practicing of our times. Yes because to listen to storys of Oom
(Uncle) Harry means means to comprise a way to practice the martial
limbs by now lost. The pukulan it is not sport, fitness or quant'
other comes today labeled to our disciplines. When it practices serak
changes also the look, the expression, the movements of the body
nearly become animal. In order to enter in this mental shape, Harry
James de Vries has had to renounce more than something. When Dolf
arrived for istruirlo not was more space for nobody. Moglie and sons
had to allontanarsi. The house became the place for the practical one
of the serak . E' one what much serious one, not draft of a hobby. All
the day tasks to the serak , of night dreams the serak . Its connect
musicians asked themselves because he had decided to play little
therefore. He could not sure say they that, instead going to make the
tests for a evening, he found again himself in the house drawing-room
to practice with sweat and blood the art of the survival! He
maintained the secret. Still today, its suonatori friends would not
believe to their eyes if they read this article. Incredible, eh. It
does not seem true the one which I am saying. But, in effects, for
eccellere in one whichever art, how many men have sacrificed their
private life or, if preferred, dedicated their life? Dolf, founder of
the serak , had said Maurice de Thouars: " We have need of a successor
". Therefore the smaller brother was chosen, Harry. To which the
evening was transmitted from To to Z. Cioé, from Dolf learned the hard
aspect of the version of the father and from Maurice that softer of
the school of the uncle John.

" I saw my father (great master Ventje) to practice with my brother
and others, but to me it seemed a dance... I did not have the courage
of dirlo obviously ", tells to me amused guru Harry. Since young it
had had experiences of risse and combats on the road. You add to this
the disagreeable encounter that a chitarrista like he regularly faveva
in the nocturnal premises. Determined to practice karate and
taekwondo. Very soon but rendered account that something did not work.
" In Germany, during one turné, me capitò of being assaulted from a
type a lot robusto. I hit of fist as I had learned in the karate ones
but it did not fall to earth. Indeed, it gave back a fist to me. I
succeeded to evitarlo. The second went to target facendomi to lose the
equilibrium. In that moment my brother arrived Ninth. It just patted a
hand on the shoulder of the German while it was over of me. It was
turned and it tried to hit also he. Ninth it made a small movement and
it caught up it to the neck with a fist. It was lost heart to the
ground lacking in acquaintance. I said my brother that it had only had
fortune. It invited to me then to colpirlo. Before the time stopped
its hand to some centimeter from my neck. Not wanting crederci, I said
to it that I would have riprovato to us muovendomi violentemente just
as the aggressor... its fist still arrived in the same point. I began
to understand the value of my style of family ". Olivier has then
remembered me that the brother of the story has the sight of a single
eye!

The blows in the pukulan serak come capacities to short distance and
in fast succession. The speed of guru Harry is such to make to seem
that it has carried two fists when in truth are three. In serak the
opposing one before it comes swept up from one series of fist
percussions, elbow, ginocchia. Then it comes swept, projected and
nailed to earth with the legs or caught with the arms. Finally, to the
ground the conclusive blows come capacities. In this school riscopre
the old way to make pentjak-silat. For the combat and the life to all
round. For serak the time it seems to essersi stopped to when it was
practiced for difendersi from the aggressori during a travel in the
giungla. In order protect women and children of the village. In order
to assert the identity and the culture of just the people. "
Old-fashion " in this case is not dispregiativo. And if ve it says a
promotore to it of jeet-kune-I give, you must yourselves be trusted...
every movement of the shapes (djurus) has thousands meant. What that
by now does not find again more in nobody of the martial limbs
committees in the West. All that that comes executed to empty has one
directed practical application. And it could not various be for a
school that has the reputation of the pukulan serak. There is who says
that " the l serak it is the instruction for the masters ". In
effects, guru Harry has shown to me as in this art the principles and
the keys of reading for whichever malese style are found again and
not.

A relative whom he practiced wing-chun in Holland showed proud to guru
de Vries which had learned. When Uncle Harry tried of dargli of the
councils on like distributing the weight, to use the shoulders,
answered that that style was tutt' other thing regarding the serak...
tried to apply to how much it had been pointed out and determined to
leave the wing-chun. Why to continue when the family art had already
how much was trying?

Guru Jelle Dezentje, friend of master Harry and member of the clan of
the pukulan serak, sorridendo in a generalized manner said of sure
being that I will change my way to practice pentjak-silat and the
martial limbs to me. This means that I have passed the admission test.
I make part of the family of the serak. I join the hands of the
forehead: " Oom Thanks Harry ".

The pukulan serak in Italy For before the time, in world-wide
exclusive right, guru Harry J. de Vries will hold one stage of pukulan
serak pentjak-silat host of the Akea with the sponsorship of the
SCEcN-cLombardia. The stage 5 saturdays will be carried out to Milan
May, solo for the instructors and aspirants Akea instructors, and 6
Sunday May, opened to all the disciplines and whichever level. It will
be an only occasion in order to discover the roots of one of the most
effective systems than combat to short distance never conceived from
the man. The fulminee combinations of blows, the scientific losses of
balance, the unexpected swept ones, the use of the elbows and the
ginocchia, the hidden movements in order to destroy the extremities of
the adversary, for before the time guru de Vries will show in public
the secrets of its style of family. Anyone will show tesserino CSEN
2001 will straight have to the same classified reduction in price to
the Akea associates on the quota d?iscrizione.

For information: Roberto Bonomelli 0338/9572382, Attilio Acquistapace
0339/2340047

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Jon J

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Babblefish is right. I think I'll take my chances withthe italian.


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Kirk Lawson

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Chas wrote:

> Thanks again to Ben Ford in Australia-
> http://www.artimarziali.org/articoli/Art_2001_04_03.htm
> I don't read Italian, so if anyone works out a translation, I'd like to see
> it.

Translation below, Courtesy of Bablefish web translator
(http://bablefish.altavista.com).

Peace favor your sword
--
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon
the Act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
-Mahatma Gandhi, "Gandhi, An Autobiography", M. K. Gandhi, page 446

=================================


To the roots of PUKULAN SERAK text and photo of Roberto Bonomelli A world-wide
exclusive right: we have met the heir of the deadliest indonesiano style,
master Harry J. de Vries. The 5 and 6 May will be in Italy for one stage "

secret " martial limbs. Expert of great value of the all disowned ones.


Disciples of a method whom they far away practice from indiscreet eyes. Of
forehead to these arguments we show rather of being skeptical. But in the
heart, if our passion is guided from a little romanticismo, it is alive the
hope that all that can still exist. I can say that he exists. I have met the
heir of a handed on art of father in son and to little friends of family. To
know master Harry James de Vries has been like immergersi by now in a world
scomparso. Arenas do not exist. The garden or the stay is the place for the
practical one. Nothing belts or uniform. Practical therefore as it has been
dressed in that moment. Nobody suspects what happens in that house. The
execution of techniques and djurus (shapes) alternate to the unmistakable
sapore of the kopie tobruk (a typical indonesiano coffee). The practical one is
informal but vigono the laws not written of adat and hormat (the respect second
the indonesiana tradition). It must be introduced for potervi approaching. In
fact, therefore it has been. The friend Olivier Blancquaert has introduced to
me to house of master de Vries. They have entered in the clan of the pukulan

serak. < Akea_foto3_am.jpg > Uncle Harry extension to Roberto Bonomelli the


characteristics style of the family de Vries, that it has been maintained for

many years... a true " Close-Door-System secret " Generally refers to us to the
indonesiana and malese martial art with pentjak-silat. In the Hindu community,
that is Hindu-Dutch, the term pukulan (pukul means to hit) instead that more is


employed. The imported styles of combat in Europe from the sons of the Dutch
colonizzatori (to which were recognized the citizenship of the Low Countries)

risentono of the guerriera mentality of those times. " old " the way to mean


the art of fighting is rather far away from how much is today the silat sport.
Here because the suffisso pukulan in front of the name of the style it
emphasizes the emphasis for hitting, cioé the combat more than the artistic
aspect. If then we speak about serak about the family de Vries, all the Hindu
community of pentjak-silat the extension a great respect. This has had to the
value of its representatives, comprised the last generation, and to how much
they have known to demonstrate. Although that the clan of the serak has always
maintained one sure confidentiality. If in the years Sixty Paul de Thouars,
disciple of John de Vries, were not emigrated in the States and subsequently
become one of teaching of the famous Dan Inosanto, probably today not there

would be therefore interest for the pukulan serak. " incredibly sophisticated

Kirk Lawson

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Kallini wrote:

> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:23:07 GMT, Chas <gryp...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >Thanks again to Ben Ford in Australia-
> >http://www.artimarziali.org/articoli/Art_2001_04_03.htm
> >I don't read Italian, so if anyone works out a translation, I'd like to see
> >it.
>
> Courtesy of Altavista's Babelfish:

Blast it!

Wish I'd seen you had beat me too it *before* I posted the Bablefish translation
that I did.

:P

Chas

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Kirk Lawson wrote:
> Wish I'd seen you had beat me too it *before* I posted the Bablefish translation
> that I did.

My deep thanks to both of you-
The article as translated taught me some things and reinforced some things
I already knew-
Sure didn't know about that service-

Kallini

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On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 04:25:23 GMT, Chas <gryp...@home.com> wrote:

>Kirk Lawson wrote:
>> Wish I'd seen you had beat me too it *before* I posted the Bablefish translation
>> that I did.
>
>My deep thanks to both of you-
>The article as translated taught me some things and reinforced some things
>I already knew-
>Sure didn't know about that service-

Glad to help.

Kallini

Kirk Lawson

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Jun 8, 2001, 9:35:20 AM6/8/01
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Chas wrote:

> Sure didn't know about that service-

It used to be elsewhere be Altavista aquired it a little while back.

It's *supposed* to translate http:// pages too. It's got a box where you can just
paste the link and it'll go translate. Unfortunately, it didn't work when I tried
it. :P

Kallini

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On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 09:35:20 -0400, Kirk Lawson
<NO_lklaw...@heapy.com> wrote:

>Chas wrote:
>
>> Sure didn't know about that service-
>
>It used to be elsewhere be Altavista aquired it a little while back.
>
>It's *supposed* to translate http:// pages too. It's got a box where you can just
>paste the link and it'll go translate. Unfortunately, it didn't work when I tried
>it. :P
>

It worked for me, but didn't translate the entire article. I had to
copy and paste the last few paragraphs into the text box.

Kallini

Kirk Lawson

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Kallini wrote:

>
> >It's *supposed* to translate http:// pages too. It's got a box where you can just
> >paste the link and it'll go translate. Unfortunately, it didn't work when I tried
> >it. :P
> >
>
> It worked for me, but didn't translate the entire article. I had to
> copy and paste the last few paragraphs into the text box.

Kept generating some sort of page error. I eventually just cutnpasted it. <shrug>

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