Ju-Jitsu books?
Andy Sherlock
I've just begun Ju-Jitsu, does anybody have any recommendations for books
(available in the UK please) that show techniques with clear
photographs/diagrams that will help me remember techniques between lessons.
It would also like to read some more about the art - history and suchlike
(there's some good stuff out there on the web - but I would also like a
good informative book).
Thanks very much,
Andy :)
LCZ
also take you at a pace to keep you from having to much to remember between
lessons. Books could have a negative effect. Best to pay close attention
to your instructor, ask question on any technique you don't understand. If
you really want a book, ask your instructor to recommend one. He would be a
much better source than a news group. There are many many good books on the
history and philosophies of the different arts and styles. Again ask your
instructor. You have an expert at your finger tips and you are coming to
the internet? Sounds like you have good enthusiasm, and I do highly
recommend you learn the history of your art.
Good luck with your training.
Larry
"Andy Sherlock" <andrewDO...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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james
Right - as has been said books are not always the best but I like them as a
'reminder' and 'reference'.
In the UK you can easily get the three books by Robert Clark (White - Green,
Blue - Brown, Black) which are of the WJJF syllabus. Not everything in
there's good but they're available easily and as I said a good reference.
You'll also be able to get hold of US books by George Kirby, Wally Jay,
D'Arcy Rhaming etc.
I don;t recommend you get these if you've just started out or you'll have
information overload from different systems/styles of Ju-Jutsu.
There's a few good websites with history and techy stuff as well. Just get
on google.com or something and have a search.
If you find any 'super-fab' sites let us all know!
Good luck in your training and keep at it - it'll hurt but it's damn fun!!!!
--
James.
http://james_ef76.tripod.com/amwelljujitsu/
Andy Sherlock <andrewDO...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Zujitsuka
Classical Japanese Art of Self-Defense", by Darrell Max Craig. It is
available at amazon.com.
Much success to you in your training.
Tyrone Turner
Zujitsuka
tnt...@hotmail.com
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"A zujitsuka must be gentle in
life and ferocious in combat."
-Soke Chaka Zulu
http://www.zujitsu.com
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P.S. Andy, where in the UK are you?
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Chris Newton
> I've just begun Ju-Jitsu, does anybody have any
> recommendations for books (available in the UK please)
> that show techniques with clear photographs/diagrams that
> will help me remember techniques between lessons.
Friendly word of advice: almost all books with "Ju Jitsu" in the title
are bad. I'm sorry to say that I have a few on my shelf from my less
informed days. I'd never recommend any of them now. (This from a
long-time student of JJ in the UK.) Instead, I suggest you look to books
written for other related arts, that specialise in the techniques you're
interested in.
There are some excellent judo books around, which describe throwing
techniques in great detail. If you want specifics, you might look at the
"Judo masterclass" series that is published by Ippon books (IIRC). These
each cover a technique or small family of related techniques, and are
written by someone who's used them extensively, often in top-level
competitions. There are plenty of other more general judo books that are
good, too. I think our own Ben Holmes maintains a list of good judo
books that's available on the web, so if throwing is your thing, you
might want to try finding that.
If you're looking to learn how to perform wristlocks or "flowing" throws
such as iriminage, I'd suggest getting a good aikido book. Most aikido
technique books are OK, one or two are much better. Aikido and the
Dynamic Sphere by Westbrook and Ratti is often recommend to students of
aikido, but a fair bit wouldn't really be relevant to a JJ student
looking for technical tips. At any rate, you can always find a decent
aikido book and just ignore any philosophy or aikido-biased content that
doesn't apply to you, and take only the tips on each technique.
For groundwork, a couple of judo books are also quite good, but they are
rare these days. Instead, I'd suggest spending the money to get the
Fighter's Notebook; visit www.mixedmartialarts.com. It costs a lot,
compared to buying a typical book in the UK, but if you want serious
groundwork tips, it's the best out there by a mile AFAIK. I did go to
the trouble of getting it across the Atlantic, and I certainly don't
regret the investment. There are also a couple of BJJ books out now,
which I've never seen, but perhaps our BJJ guys can comment on them.
> It would also like to read some more about the art - history
> and suchlike (there's some good stuff out there on the web -
> but I would also like a good informative book).
I can't help much with that one, I'm afraid. Although many JJ
instructors would have you believe otherwise, most modern Japanese-style
JJ isn't really based on arts from hundreds of years ago. Those JJ
styles almost all went towards the judo approach a century or so back.
What you have today is mostly a reinvention of the original. The basic
principles are often much the same, but many of the techniques are new.
Some modern JJ has done this well, and produced a good style as a
result, but in fairness, much of it hasn't. Either way, most modern
styles make very dubious claims about their history, and there is
precious little written evidence to support any of it. Of course, if you
ever discover differently, or your style is an exception to the general
rule, feel free to come back here and tell us! :-)
Cheers,
Chris
Gichoke
>There are also a couple of BJJ books out now,
>which I've never seen, but perhaps our BJJ guys can comment on them.
>
There is a well rated book available at http://www.jiu-jitsu.net also I believe
Royler and Renzo have a book... try http://www.adcombat.com also the machados
http://www.machadojj.com
Gi
Ben Holmes
<chris...@no.junk.please.btinternet.com> wrote:
>"Andy Sherlock" <andrewDO...@ntlworld.com> wrote...
>> I've just begun Ju-Jitsu, does anybody have any
>> recommendations for books (available in the UK please)
>> that show techniques with clear photographs/diagrams that
>> will help me remember techniques between lessons.
>
>Friendly word of advice: almost all books with "Ju Jitsu" in the title
>are bad. I'm sorry to say that I have a few on my shelf from my less
>informed days. I'd never recommend any of them now. (This from a
>long-time student of JJ in the UK.) Instead, I suggest you look to books
>written for other related arts, that specialise in the techniques you're
>interested in.
>
>There are some excellent judo books around,
And if you want to find out which ones are worthwhile, be sure to
check out:
Herbert Cannon
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>Wally Jay's Small Circle Jiu Jitsu is an excellent book
I have a few books by Wally Jay that I think rawk!
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Andy Sherlock
I'll ask my sensei what he recommends as well as browsing around for some
your suggestions.
I'm really enjoying the classes so far - Wednesday is my eighth session and
I'm already hooked :)
BTW - the club's website is at http://www.combatjujitsu.co.uk/ if anybody
is interested :)
Herbert Cannon
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> On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:01:08 GMT, "Herbert Cannon"
> <hcan...@home.com> scribbled with their crayola:
>
> >Wally Jay's Small Circle Jiu Jitsu is an excellent book
>
> I have a few books by Wally Jay that I think rawk!
>
Pierre Honeyman
> GOU RONIN® <kenpo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:01:08 GMT, "Herbert Cannon"
> > <hcan...@home.com> scribbled with their crayola:
> >
> > >Wally Jay's Small Circle Jiu Jitsu is an excellent book
> >
> > I have a few books by Wally Jay that I think rawk!
> >
> rawk? Sorry I do not speak awk.
Two different languages. If I'm correct, rawk is pure mullet-speak
while awk is pure geek-speak. Two different, and antagonistic,
cultural groups.
Pierre
Herbert Cannon
it rght except he aint got no culture.
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> > > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:01:08 GMT, "Herbert Cannon"
> > > > <hcan...@home.com> scribbled with their crayola:
> > > >
> > > > >Wally Jay's Small Circle Jiu Jitsu is an excellent book
> > > >
> > > > I have a few books by Wally Jay that I think rawk!
> > > >
> > > rawk? Sorry I do not speak awk.
> >
> > Two different languages. If I'm correct, rawk is pure mullet-speak
> > while awk is pure geek-speak. Two different, and antagonistic,
> > cultural groups.
> >
> > Pierre
> Ok, I don't speakee the mullet either. Is there an earth translation. Ya got
> it rght except he aint got no culture.
Think of "rawk" in the "for those about to rawk" way...
Pierre
GODSTAR
> "Andy Sherlock" <andrewDO...@ntlworld.com> wrote...
> I can't help much with that one, I'm afraid. Although many JJ
> instructors would have you believe otherwise, most modern Japanese-style
> JJ isn't really based on arts from hundreds of years ago.
You can check out koryu books dot com, there are several styles that
have head instructors that have lineages that date back centuries.
Many of their students did start out in Judo. But look at Kodokan
Judo by Kano (the book) you will see that Kano's started in old styles
of juijitsu and you can see him doing throws with traditional armor
and stuff. His art is largely a fusion of Yoshin ryu and aiki styles
and other high stance throwing JJ, with some groudword probably from
fusen ryu, anyway if you research this as I hope some judoka have you
will find a large list of old styles of juijitsu, to some extent Kano
can be credited with saving many of the old techniques, since many of
the styles were dying at that time.
> Those JJ
> styles almost all went towards the judo approach a century or so back.
Since jj has become you know a trend many places Mc-doJangs teach what
a karate instructor who has a yellow belt thinks JJ and probably BJJ.
And they don't know jujutsu or Judo. BUt plenty pure JJ(not a
majority) know old JJ.
> What you have today is mostly a reinvention of the original. The basic
> principles are often much the same, but many of the techniques are new.
> Cheers,
> Chris
Ben Holmes
>"Chris Newton" <chris...@no.junk.please.btinternet.com> wrote in message news:<9tr1v0$ghj$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>...
>> "Andy Sherlock" <andrewDO...@ntlworld.com> wrote...
>
>> I can't help much with that one, I'm afraid. Although many JJ
>> instructors would have you believe otherwise, most modern Japanese-style
>> JJ isn't really based on arts from hundreds of years ago.
>
>You can check out koryu books dot com, there are several styles that
>have head instructors that have lineages that date back centuries.
>Many of their students did start out in Judo. But look at Kodokan
>Judo by Kano (the book) you will see that Kano's started in old styles
>of juijitsu and you can see him doing throws with traditional armor
>and stuff. His art is largely a fusion of Yoshin ryu and aiki styles
No. Judo is largely a combination of two arts; Kito Ryu, and Tenshin
Shinyo Ryu. This is documented in any number of books on Judo.
It is commonly accepted that Tenshin Shinyo Ryu had Yoshin Ryu as a
part of it's lineage.
gary
"> >
> > I've just begun Ju-Jitsu, does anybody have any recommendations for
books
> > (available in the UK please) that show techniques with clear
> > photographs/diagrams that will help me remember techniques between
> lessons.
Just a suggestion but it works for me
After training write down what you have learned that session break each
technique down into its component parts and when reading it back picture it
in your mind this works for me
Where are you by the way and how long have you been training
Gary
Where are you by the way and
Ben Holmes
wrote:
http://www.bestjudo.com for Judo Book Reviews...
Andy Sherlock
I live in Cardiff and have been training in a very self-defence focused
form of JuJitsu for about 2 months now.
The club's website is here:
http://www.combatjujitsu.co.uk/
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