Are any of these guys the real deal? (Tai Chi Chuan)
calculus
Chris Turner
Earl Montigue
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I'm looking into buying a video tape, and am so far leaning for Chris
Turner, or Earl Montigue.
What do you guys think about each person?
Hope to hear from you.
-Zack
Taojen1
<<I'm looking into buying a video tape, and am so far leaning for Chris
Turner, or Earl Montigue.
Much as it might gall you, try Mike's instead
Buddy
calculus
I have nothing against Mike personally or on a "Tai Chi" level. I just might
check out his webpage and purchase one or two.
-Zack
SJN8888
His Yang Lu Chan tape is unique and breaks things down in reasonable detail.
His Taiji to the Max series is an outdoor seminar that was taped. It covers
things in great detail.
Just my opinion, I am not an expert...
Filter
demonstrating actual 'jing'? (I'm not sure if there is actual jing, but
supposing there is...)
SJN8888 <sjn...@aol.com> wrote in message
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point
Filter wrote in message ...
>Has anybody ever witnessed or know of anybody witnessing Earl Montigue
>demonstrating actual 'jing'? (I'm not sure if there is actual jing, but
>supposing there is...)
I wonder why people think Tai Chi is all about fa chin.
?
Bobone
Filter <filte...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Has anybody ever witnessed or know of anybody witnessing Earl Montigue
> demonstrating actual 'jing'? (I'm not sure if there is actual jing, but
> supposing there is...)
Yes I have and yes there is
Rob
Marcus Kielly
form?
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Conversation: Are any of these guys the real deal? (Tai Chi
Chuan)
Subject: Re: Are any of these guys the real deal? (Tai
Chi Chuan)
Filter wrote in message ...
>Has anybody ever witnessed or know of anybody witnessing Earl
Montigue
>demonstrating actual 'jing'? (I'm not sure if there is actual
jing, but
>supposing there is...)
I wonder why people think Tai Chi is all about fa chin.
?
Bobone
point <x...@y.com> wrote in message news:7uls6u$t3v$1...@news-02.meganews.com...
>
>
> I wonder why people think Tai Chi is all about fa chin.
>
> ?
As opposed to
?
sqrt(2)
>> I wonder why people think Tai Chi is all about fa chin.
>> ?
>As opposed to
>?
As opposed to everything else it consists of.
Bobone
Laplace
Even if Earl Montigue can demonstrate his 'jing', it doesn't earn him an extra
second in the ring or in a real fight (no rule).
Those who think mastering a single aspect of their martial arts can make them a
master, are far from a master, their mind (thinking) is not the thinking of a
master!
To win a fight, there is no perfect solution, doesn't matter what style you
train in.
There are a few rules, however, determines a winner:
1. Those who doesn't fear (death, get hurt) usually win.
2. Those who take No Rule unarmed combat as their daily training routine
will VERY VERY likely beat those who believe in their skill and believe
themselves are masters. Experimentalist will always beat metaphysician!!
Science will always beat metaphysics!
I am not putting down any style. I am only putting down the thinking, mind
frame of most of the so called Old Masters in Traditional styles today, they
believe too much! They never take up whatever challenge put in front of them as
in the old days!
In the old days Chinese martial artists are tested by No Rule fight, against
all styles, Russians, Mongolians, Japanese, Koreans ... It is an arts of life
and death.
That's why one of the rules in Shaolin is "Not to train martial arts before
give up the concept of life and death."
Only then can one perform his/her best.
> >> Has anybody ever witnessed or know of anybody witnessing Earl Montigue
> >> demonstrating actual 'jing'? (I'm not sure if there is actual jing, but
> >> supposing there is...)
> >
> >
> >Yes I have and yes there is
>
> Where did Montague learn his real jing and stuff?
>
> Goldberg
Bobone
Laplace <lap...@hotkey.net.au> wrote in message
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> >
>
> Even if Earl Montigue can demonstrate his 'jing', it doesn't earn him an
extra
> second in the ring or in a real fight (no rule).
Did he say it does?
> Those who think mastering a single aspect of their martial arts can make
them a > master, are far from a master, their mind (thinking) is not the
thinking of a
> master!
Wow, you can read Erle's mind?
>
> To win a fight, there is no perfect solution, doesn't matter what style
you
> train in.
Which is something Erle says
> In the old days Chinese martial artists are tested by No Rule fight,
against
> all styles, Russians, Mongolians, Japanese, Koreans ... It is an arts of
life
> and death.
Are you suggesting we should fight to the death today?
Laplace
girl.
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Date:
Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:18:19 +0200
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